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Fulgrim
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Fulgrim
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On March 10 2010 07:38 Abenson wrote: NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Gratz on leveling up Abenson | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 10 2010 10:07 Zona wrote: Oh, you also have Bill Murray on the player's list twice. One of him is...interesting enough. But two? Please no...... NO | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 11 2010 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As for mayoral elections. I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for office. With the setup of this game, and the fact elected positions can be RC'd, the elected positions are far more likely to end up in townie hands. This is a good thing, and I believe it is in our best interests to make sure town can get in. I believe that I would be a good candidate because I have many games worth of experience, a few as an elected official, and others where I have have helped in the pinning of reds. I believe that from this experience I will be able to help the town quickly and hopefully bring about a swift end to the mafia. The Plan: The plan is simple. Whoever is elected (in this case I would love it to be me), but regardless, whoever is elected. The dt or dt's will both check the elected officials. I would say if your a dt and numbered 1-12 on the list, check the mayor, 13-25 check the pardoner. Instantly we have information. If they are a blue role you write it down. If they are red, speak up to someone (possibly wait a day to find a green person in a check). Reveal the findings, person dies. If they are green, keep them on a seperate list. Soon as you get two greens, RC them, and tell them who you checked and start a circle. If you get blues. Keep that info to yourself until you need it proved. If you find a dt, make them check someone (most likely one you've checked to confirm), medic prot someone, vig hit someone, etc... Anyone who flips red dies. For all those who are not a dt. Constantly update your posts in the archive thread, and carefully analyze peoples posting behaviours. If you think something is a tell, or feel they are scummy, rather than just point a finger, really sit down and prove it. But be aware that if you cause the death of an important player and they flip town, you will prob quickly follow. Medics, protect the bgs with your life. We will randomly pick one from the list of two, and then tell you to prot them. Past protecting the bgs, no one talk to them in PM's, IM's, or IRC, period. They are not confirmable, do not associate with them. They can talk via thread, feel free to respond to them here, do not tell them anything. Conclusion: This game can be won very easily if we play it smart. I believe outside of my general plan to play, the reason I should be elected is I believe I will represent a threat to the mafia, which means they will have to actively try to remove me, which will give themselves away. If they don't I will continue to strengthen the town, and effectively force them to GG. Looking over the rules for the game, it looks like pardoner isn't going to play that much of an important role this game, its more of the mayor that we have to worry about. The mafia want to have the mayor role, and the only way they are going to get it safely is through their godfather. I think its probably safe to say that no "ordinary" mafia are going to be running for office. I propose that we check the mayor on night one, (1-12), and then the other DT(s) 13-25 check town members, because Its important to check the mayor just to be safe, but I think checking the sheriff on the first night (potential gf risk), alot more information and more possiblities to set up town circles. Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs. | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 11 2010 11:12 L wrote: Yeah, hence why Ace's actions were misleading. But the issue is that while he looked like the GF, he wasn't fooling anyone but the town. In the end he got shot for it. Not even remotely. Mafia can grab both spots, put the goon in the mayor role, have him swing around with his 3 votes for a day or 2, then have the GF pardoner gain credibility by pushing the lynch of the mayor. Then lategame comes, we're in a lylo situation and... oh shit, we can't lynch because he pardons. The reason why they can't is the threat of having DTs check both, yet people are here saying "well, its useless to check". Wrong. checking is the threat itself, and there's a 100% chance that you find someone legit in either mayor or pardoner. If the GF goes up, what role does he take? What if his counterpart is blue and gets confirmed through role usage? Can the GF have his team hit the BGs in order to take out the confirmed protected blue? If he does, he needs to kill both BGs or reveal a goon (or just reveals a goon), then he needs a GOOD reason for why HE isn't dead the next day. Either way, the threat of checking both elected positions is massive, especially because if a GF doesn't run, then you have a set of DTs and protected blues that have tools to confirm each other. A medic mayor, for instance, who blocks a hit is a huge "oh shit" moment for mafia. Letting two potential blues have that position is also huge. Additionally, there's the question of 'what blue'? Who does the GF take? If he's a safe role, why would he run for mayor? If he's an active role, he needs to lie carefully and can be found out if he tries to claim. And that's another point; Pretty much any blue that gets elected is probably going to claim immediately. So the GF can't fucking putz around. You guys simply don't see how powerful having a blue office holder that can be checked is. Qatol was shitting bricks about it earlier, which is why the BGs are public, but we can abuse that too. Just wait, champs. Think for a bit and build a strategy given our game format; its highly abusable. L seems pretty legit this game, I think I'm going to vote for him. On checking elected officials: its kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't type of thing. We can gain SOME information from doing it even if its only the supposed roles of the officials. Originally I suggested that we don't check the pardoner because it doesn't matter, but as L points out, it can really screw us over in the late game. It might be better to check both elected officials tonight and get it over with, so we don't have to waste checks later on to confirm their roles. Its better to play safe then to lose later just because we didn't want to spend the time to make sure. | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 11 2010 11:28 Malongo wrote: dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit. Just as i said before: i rather go with an active mayor than trusting a half active mayor that wants to go in because "its better for the town" aka im town dont let mafia take the spots. Remember last game redtooth got himself lynched by L and a group of tards simply because he didnt really wanted to be mayor. Id really love to see more newblood there but at this point its useless, so keeping my word and sticking on the Ls. On the plus side he knows that we like to lynch bad officials so he wont fuck it up unless he is purposedly doing it. This game is going to get weird if the drivers switch targets smartly, however i dont see that really happening in the first 2 days. I like Incognitos try so we are protecting at least one of the BGs. Way to make it seem like I copied you saying the word "legit" | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 11 2010 11:45 L wrote: Why the fuck are you running for mayor as green? If anyone is doing dumb shit like that I will drive the lynch bus straight down your face. These are confirmable spots; we can't confirm green beyond 'not goon'. We can confirm medic. We can confirm DT. We can confirm Driver (to a certain point). The only reason you'd want to take green into the mayorship is by asking to die the next day as a method of verifying that you're legit and allowing a controlled claim to go through. Even then, I think we've had a grand total of one person try that and he didnt' try that, he feinted. If you take the position that mafia's only going to run a single candidate, running as green seems even stupider; Mafia NEVER fail to get their candidate in if they want him there. EVER. So the idea that you'd step in to stop another mafia from getting in is absolutely retarded; you're taking the spot from a blue because you want to be cute and go "i pardon xyz, he's town for sureeeeeeeee" or throw a few extra votes around and pretend you're more important now that you aren't 'just' green. If no greens ran for office though, you would just be handing the mafia a hitlist of the candidates that were running. | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 11 2010 12:35 citi.zen wrote: + Show Spoiler + From: Fulgrim [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Bonjour Date: 3/11/10 12:26 Tu es rouge oui? C'est la verite? J'espere que je ne mort pas la derniere nuit. Reply Keep'em coming. I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone. | ||
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On March 12 2010 07:37 Incognito wrote: Interesting here. I have limited time, have to go to work soon, but I have this strange feeling that all the top three probable GF contenders are all town. If that is the case, our advantage is huge. Imba, maybe, but plausible, in which case we keep a strong eye on Malongo/Foolishness/Fishball. Reasons why I think L is town: He wants to be rolechecked. He wants to kill green officeholders. Which means he's either blue or GF. If he's GF, it will be hard to fake a blue role. I don't think a mafia would forcefully put themselves on the spot so willingly. For now, I see L as a pretty safe choice. Reasons why I think BC is town: He says that he claimed to three people. Claiming DT to three people is a pretty bad idea if you're mafia. You'd preferably keep it to one so you can kill off that member if you decide you are being found out. Now we don't have proof about the other two people he told, but I don't know if he'd make that bad of a lie. Who knows. I'll think about it some more. We still have one more day to decide who we want for positions. Will post some more later tonight. Or you could be mafia O.o. I think L is acting really scummy and stupidly or playing smart. Its really hard to tell at this point. He is claiming a blue role of some kind, but he's not telling us what it is. I think at this point I would prefer BC to win because he seems like a bit of a safer choice at this point, and by straight up confirming DT we could check his role more easily then L's mystery role. | ||
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Fulgrim
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On March 14 2010 11:08 L wrote: And nothing of value was lost. haha thanks L. Its probably a good thing that I was killed, because I just got raped in the face by real life on friday and couldn't have really been active at all. GL town, I'm 3-0 in mafia, so don't let me down now. | ||
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