Ok, Let's get serious. Did I make a dumb move last game? Yes. Was it worse than the game before it? No. Did I make a dumb move the game before? Yes. Was it worse than the game before IT? No.

Although I have made dumb moves in all of my games, they have gotten less and less detrimental to the town. Sooner or later I will end up being a good player. Take into consideration I have only played 3 games. Last game, I actually was in correspondence with Citi.zen who had convinced me to trust himself and Incognito. Unlike him, I did not think Ace was red.

I may not be as good as some of the good players, or even as good as some of the mediocre players, but I feel this is the reason to not lynch me. First, I would like to build experience through playing more games over a longer period of time. The only way I can properly do this is by surviving. If I'm the day 1 lynch victim, I don't believe that I will be surviving. If L is in office, and is wrathful over my mistake from last game, I'm not going to survive. Not only is he being wrathful, he's stating he's running for office against the rules basically. Of course, if you call him out on it, he's going to say he was kidding, but i'll bet you money he really would lynch me if you made him mayor.

Do you want a wrathful mayor? I don't. I want someone that will lead the town to victory. I want someone like Incognito. I want someone like Ver. I'd definitely take someone like Citi.zen. You be the judge.

p.s. L how many times do I have to apologize before u can chill out, bro

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 04:25 GMT

#139

announcing your day 1 lynch victim prior to the game starting can be so detrimental if you both end up being red.

when you don't run, or don't lynch them, you're suspicious.
you're also disabling your mafia buddy from being able to vote for you... "I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO LYNCH YOU, WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR HIM"

It's just a dumb concept, and should be frowned upon.

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 04:26 GMT

#140

oh, yeah, you're right citi.zen...
i forgot all political candidates are wishy-washy

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 05:23 GMT

#165

i am the wind beneath your wings L , and you refuse to fly

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 05:47 GMT

#166

I am a very good behavioral analyst if given time. In the other games I've been playing with you guys, and i'll reiterate and say that it has only been 3 games, if even that, because caller's was different and cut short. I have lived to only see around 5 day/night posts in the 2 other games that are of this system. I feel that with me, you guys as a whole are judging the book by its cover. My cover, though worn and frayed, doesn't have the power to hold in within it these pages that force it to be rippèd and torn. The pages are actually worth reading. I implore you to read this book, take the time to give me another chance, and do not lynch me.

whoo oo oo

-sam

edited for grammar and style.

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 16:46 GMT

#181

i was sort of hoping i would be red

Bill Murray

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March 10 2010 17:49 GMT

#188

1. Incognito
2. Versatile
3. Malongo
4. tree.hugger
5. Bill Murray
6. Fishball
7. CynanMachae
8. johnnyspazz
9. nemY
10. sidesprang
11. Zona
12. XeliN
13. Fulgrim
14. citi.zen
15. madnessman
16. JeeJee
17. d3_crescentia
18. L
19. ~OpZ~
20. Vivi57
21. Foolishness
22. Abenson
23. Iaaan
[black]24. l10f
25. BloodyC0bbler[/black]

25 people, 5 mafia, 5 town blue roles, 1 blue role we have to ignore for sake of unknown alliance, and probably a couple millers. I'm assuming 2 Detective, 2 Medics, 1 vig, 1 mad hatter, 1 vet, 2 millers.

Does that seem about right?

So 24 Town, 5 mafia, and an ambiguous role?

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 09:01 GMT

#334

is it just me or are L and BloodyC0bbler both claiming DT?

I'd like to reference this post: "+ Show Spoiler +

there are most likely only 1 of each blue role, i would keep that in mind. 2 meds could perma protect someone in this game, so most likely only one. Dt's have unlimited rc's so most likely only 1. Hatter has 2 kp (with bombs) so most likely is only one hatter, or 1-2 vigi's as having both roles would have too high a KP (would be more than the mafia in one night). Possibly 1 vet, millers 1-2.

"

Do you want a Mafia mayor? Why are you all voting for BloodyC0bbler or L? We need to have neither of them in office, or at most one as pardoner, and figure out which of them is the real detective based upon SOMEONE ELSE roleclaiming through a hit or protection. We can PM one of them to check that person, and they only have a certain percentage of guessing it correctly if they are mafia.

Given this turn of events, I feel it is necessary for Incognito and PREFERABLY someone else to be in office together. When I say someone else, I mean someone needs to step up to the plate and garner the town's votes. I don't trust either one of these guys until we can confirm them. I am more wary of a donkey in a lion's skin than the actual lion himself.

in response to : + Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2010 12:40 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 12:26 citi.zen wrote:
On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote:
I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town. Mafia will be forced to burn through bodyguards, and if they have a member he'll become pretty obvious after the kill.

So yeah, I'm still planning on killing Bill Murray and I think I'm a pretty cool guy, so vote for me.

In terms of plans; You guys must be joking if you think that killing the town driver is a good idea. The town driver can literally swap mafia hit BACK AT MAFIA. ITS ABSOLUTELY BALLS OFF THE WALL AWESOME.

After I'm elected, I've got a small roleclaim based play to go with; I'll ask DTs to check certain people during the night so that we can get groups started. Should be a pretty simple game from there.

Might as well roleclaim at this point so we can confirm you one way or another. Or not. You've said too much already and are a mafia target anyway. If you are DT I do not want you dead.

Considering his sentence includes "the other DT"...it seems like he's claiming DT.

The thing is - we probably only have one DT.

It's pretty clear that hes outlining a scenario with two dt's not RCing. L will run for office in any game, and specifically said he had a fun role, that would more imply he got a KP role, or bus driver.

The example of the "other dt" or "second dt" has already been used by multiple people thus far.

Really, L?
I believe the last game got to your head.
I like you, I'm sorry it happened that way, my bad.
I was wrong.

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 09:34 GMT

#336

He insinuated he was a detective, and BloodyC0bbler PM'ed Vivi57 (so vivi says) saying he was a detective too. In my post above, in the top spoiler, BloodyC0bbler says he doubts that there would be more than 1 detective with the amount of rolechecks he can do in the current system. I would also rather someone PM claim than try to claim on the thread by hinting at something. In the second part of my post, in the bolded sections, it is important to read where L actually said "if the other DT wants to check him, that's fine" the -other- dt.

I'm re-iterating something that Zona caught through this post. MY purpose is that we do not need to trust L. He almost had me convinced he wasn't the Godfather.... if he dies, and he's the detective, we can pretty much catch the Godfather.. Bloodyc0bbler. Bloodyc0bbler himself said that he only believed there would be one detective.

Speak up, guys

L, BloodyC0bbler

WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT?

maybe you all are used to liars in office, but i'm sick of it. it doesn't have to be this way.

I am hereby announcing my campaign for the Mayoral position. I pray that I am not diluting the mayoral pool with another town aligned player; it'd be nice if i didn't jeopardize the other truly town aligned players by taking votes from them, but that's the only way that I am for sure going to be able to stay alive in this game. Do the right things, guys, change the world and save my life.

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 10:06 GMT

#339

Vivi57-

BloodyC0bbler: "No I *am* claiming dt for him"
L: "the other dt"

Where is a mention of a bus driver? You said he claimed DT. L implied he's a DT.
Explain this statement Vivi: "i'm all in favor of a bus driver/dt mayor/pardoner", using more than 1 sentence please.

Who is this mysterious bus driver you're talking about? If there's something you know that I don't, by all means...

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 14:18 GMT

#344

I'd love to survive and use everything within my power to protect this town. You have basically already claimed yourself, and if you were playing a game, it's not funny. The best reason to me is because if I was mafia, there's no way in hell my teammates would let me run for mayor. I am a guaranteed town aligned or town, or at the worst case scenario for you all bus driver (not knowing my alliance)

I guess I'm running on the "MY MAFIA WOULDN'T LET ME RUN FOR MAYOR" platform.

If i was mafia, they would want me to shut up, and rig the vote against L so they can maintain kp.
By running, I am telling you all through my actions that you can have a neighbor in office.

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 15:45 GMT

#347

6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 18:17 GMT

#362

If you think about it, a red player could run for office. If they get elected mayer, and show up red to a role check, they can be like "there's no way the mafia wouldn't make the mayor the godfather in this format, obvious miller"

risky, but would be a good gambit

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 20:23 GMT

#380

How many more times can we quote L's 70 line post on one page? Should we try for a third?

Bill Murray

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March 11 2010 21:19 GMT

#384

I'm serious about wanting to win, but even I'll admit that I would prefer 2 of the 3 main candidates in office if only I knew they were blue... or even green.