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On February 10 2010 06:25 789 wrote:
I think if a mafia ends up down to 1-2 players and can't win anymore, their objective just turns to playing spoiler for whichever faction they choose (the other family or the town). I think the natural choice would be the other family - since their original objective was to wipe them out. They can't win, but they can make someone lose.
or hope to god the town/other mafia start owning eachother and play cleanup crew.
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I hope decaf plays now 
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On February 10 2010 16:33 johnnyspazz wrote:just pm incognito
He is correct, hes not in.
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Suggestion for the Mafia:
Tap out now.
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As the game as begun, it is time to get it started.
I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for the position of mayor.
I believe the town can easily win this if we work together, as a concise unit, and do so before the mafia can create their own plans. Action must happen now. My campaign is on a platform of strength. I believe I have the strength to help pull this town together. I can analyze clues, behaviour, and can help guide blues to where they should act. The more we work together, the less we have to lose. The first lynch at the moment, as there is nothing to really go on, I believe is moot unless someone gives themself away obviously. Therefore I would lynch the most inactive player, or in the case of someone giving themself away, that person. Any other choice should be pardon'd instantly.
Vote for unity, Vote for strength, Vote for bloodyc0bbler
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On February 14 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'll be running for mayor/pardoner. It's always nice to have a special role, makes the game more interesting. If I am mayor, I will lynch whoever the town wants me to lynch and use my votes the way the town wants them used unless I strongly feel the town consensus is wrong, in which case I will do my best to justify my vote.
I don't really like the pardoner power to be honest, I guess I would only use it to save someone who I suspected/knew was blue or under some sort of special circumstance. My limited experience hurts me here, but can any more experienced players let me in on what kind of pro-town role the pardoner really holds?
pardoner ability is really useful to stop bandwagons of no substance truth be told. Or if mayor decides to kill someone who is suspected to be innocent/not who they say they will/total left field sort of thing.
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Based on Ver posting insanely helpful tips to people, I shall vote for him to be mayor. If he wants me dead, that's his choice. However wrong he may be.
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On February 14 2010 11:25 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 11:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Based on Ver posting insanely helpful tips to people, I shall vote for him to be mayor. If he wants me dead, that's his choice. However wrong he may be. Unless I missed something... is Ver running for office?
Most likely not, but hes posting in the best manner for one who should be in office, so for the moment he has my vote?
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On February 14 2010 11:43 Abenson wrote:
i think we should focus most on electing a non-mafia mayor right now o.o
seeing as you could be one of the horsemen, I think your right.
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On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.
First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.
Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.
Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.
I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.
Having a voice of reason in the elected position is the only reason I ran. Truth be told, from your post, and ver's I think the two of you should prob take it, and how do we say, not repeat qatols first game?
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On February 14 2010 11:51 Iaaan wrote:
So basically the Mayors lynch should be on someone useless, not an old gosu.
I hope not too many veteran players are Mafia, or the town is screwed ;d
A mayor should lynch someone who is inactive, or someone who is so obviously mafia that even their own family would sell them out.
Aside from that, people start talking, more voting alllright.
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On February 14 2010 11:56 Mystlord wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.
Such elitism. Regardless, I'm still all for incorporating clues into Day 1 discussion. For instance, we now have a defense from you, which is good for building a profile, whether you're innocent or not.
They are interesting to look at mystlord, but however, day 1 clues almost always end up being red herrings, and random accusations, even backed by clues aren't too good for the person doing them unless they end up being right. I learned that the hardway.
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L I wont spend time on day 1 clue analysis till like day 3, there is no point till then, i dont get why you love it so much
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my bad, that should be to redtooth not L, fast reading ftl
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your quote of
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i don't care how unselfish you are but there is no way you could honestly say "oh that guy is playing well so i support him" when that guy is trying to kill you. greens/blues want town to win but they also want to be alive when they do win. he even voted for Ver in the voting thread to further create an image of SUUUUUPER TOWN-ALLY. he then faded into the shadows and we forgot all about him, instead choosing to focus on day 1 clue analysis."
I'm not going to focus on it now. Nor am i trying to fade into the shadows, observering is something that is needed right now
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On February 14 2010 15:24 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 15:01 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
At this point, I'm all for citizen as mayor, last game he played extremely well, and he hasn't become involved in all of this Ace/Ver/L shaky clue analysis/finger pointing. Ver hasn't exactly been a major contributor to this latest galactic confrontation between Ace and L, iirc. I'd say redtooth and myself have been far more active in that regard- not that either of us is running for office. As to the elections, I'm undecided between I10f and L currently, though I'd seriously consider Ver if he presented a candidacy (which I believe he hasn't?). Ace doesn't seem to be accountable to anyone, and I've never played with citi.zen before. Chez... sorry man, promising to post exclusively coherent content is nice and all, but you should preach with the example rather than make promises. BloodyC0bbler's posts have inspired zero confidence in me so far... in fact, you had to look with a bloody magnifying glass to find any content in the post in which he announces his candidacy.
Confidence is from ones following actions, not from random bickering.
I10f has posted next to nothing for his candidacy yet is getting supporters? This is what makes one sketchy. He has votes, he has no platform past "i will lynch a previous red from another game" and bam he inspires confidence while hiding in the woodworks. All those who have so far fallen into support of him, or have voted for him are insanely suspect.
Yes, my platform is next to nil, but what do you want me to do? Create a nice pretty strategy to get myself into office? Last time I did that, I got killed from the very town I was trying to lead. You can go back and read any of the games I have run, and yes i have presented a plan. But with the current setup of the game, my ideas aren't fool proof, or close to it. When I have that, I shall post it, or when I see obvious clues, I will post them as well.
So yes, if you look at confidence, i currently see people bandwagon supporting and others trying to kill off veteran players on red herrings. If thats confidence, I am afraid for this town.
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ALSO NOTE:
Anyone bringing up previous games to justify ones actions in the current game should not be validated on that. If you are playing for town and analyze clues one way, being red does not mean you will analyze them the same way.
In the case of L vs Ace.
Yes as town, L nailed truthbringer.
If L is mafia this game, he would be trying to remove ace because is he is
A) a mafia member of another group
B) townie that could threaten his position
Yes, L could be a townie but he is still pushing to hard on day 1 to kill off one player based off clues.
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On February 14 2010 15:53 redtooth wrote:
i wish chezinu would be modkilled. don't want to waste a lynch on him but he's like a less funny 0cz3c - useless and distracting.
as for mayors: none of them have presented any reason to vote for them. l10f made what appeared at first to be a troll platform. as of now, neither Ace and L should be trusted too much, especially with the power of mayor.
that would leave citizen but i've yet to see either show any promise in the thread. i keep hearing good things about him but have yet to personally see it (i haven't read through the other mafia game) and the only thing i've seen so far from him is his promise to not trust anyone (duh...).
i would also refrain from pushing for Ver to be mayor and voting for him despite his lack of candidacy. it's not funny and it's really, really not smart.
Simple, as of now there is a really narrow gap on how to vote us in.
Each of us is most likely trying to figure out some method in which to push up to the top and win, as any candiate would. However, clues at this point IMO are not enough to warrant being voted in. A plan would be.
I would go with this.
Ace/L/Myself/whoever else is running, are all trying to figure out some little plan to put ourself above the rest.
As of now, everything that I have come up with, although fun on paper, is insanely hard to actually accomplish, and very very easy to stop. Soon as I figure something out, Ill post it.
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As a note to quickstriker, out of say 6 people running, assume 1 from each family will be in the elections. Normally a family would put forth 1 possibly 2 members (this case not as safe as the other family is watching) so most likely 1 from each family, maybe one family put ahead 2.
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and on that last note, im hitting the sac.
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