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Mystlord
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Two newcomers strode inside. Perhaps indicating that the two mafia members are part of the new players to the game, so that could narrow down our search considerably in that area. | ||
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citi.zen does raise a good point about the clues that would arise from the lynching of t_co though. We're at a dead end if we lynch Hobbes. If we lynch t_co, we at least get some clues, regardless of whether he's red or not. Hm decisions decisions... | ||
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At the very least, even if we don't lynch t_co, do not let him go into office. I highly doubt there is any sort of alliance between meeple and DrH. It seems to merely be a straw man argument that everyone has bought into. | ||
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On January 22 2010 09:47 meeple wrote: If we don't lynch him, then who? nobody seems able to decide on something. I'm still all for the lynching of t_co. I'm just saying that even if we don't lynch him, it hurts us to let him into office. Zona: I see your reasoning for wanting to lynch Faronel and not t_co, but you cannot randomly lynch people based off of low activity and a tenuous link at best. We won't get any information at all from Faronel's lynching, which drops him even lower on the priority list. I still believe that t_co's lynching will give us the most information. Even if he isn't mafia, it will point us in a clear direction. I've already seen evidence of his strange and wild arguments confusing some people, and it hurts us to keep him in if he starts confusing the town, regardless of whether he's a townie or not. | ||
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Fuck. This really sucks for us. There's no way that the Mafia could have known that blue_arrow was a bodyguard, considering that bodyguards have no reason to reveal themselves to anyone, so I don't think we can get any clues from who he was in contact with. Bill_Murray... He contacted so many people that I'm not sure who could have been mafia in this case. We'd need a solid set of clues matching up with a specific person to confirm that. Abenson was green so not much we can get from his connections. Now on the issue of the clues, I think the flamewheel connection is ridiculously strong here. It's probably the most solid link we have thus far, considering we have apparently the same characteristics as the mafia guy mentioned in the post as in his profile picture. As for the kane connection, I'm also pretty sold on that as well, considering the apparently big clue given to us and the rather solid link between the bucket and the mafia as well as the sledgehammer (though a bit more tenuous). I think right now I would want to lynch flamewheel, but that might be a bit too hasty. We have 48 hours left, let's use it all up. I'll be back later for clue analysis. | ||
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 .In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues. So here's my suspects: Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable. Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile. Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now. Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project. The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link: Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku. Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total). Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary. | ||
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On January 24 2010 10:27 meeple wrote: I wasn't saying that treading meant to plod/chase, but rather the fact that he couldn't outrun the attacker, and the fact that you can't really outrun a treadmill (for which treadmaster is a brand), and it will always keep the same pace (ie, plod). For me thats a stronger connection/better connection than flamewheel The connection between you and the third killer is shaky at best, which is why I put my faith behind the first killer Wait Treadmaster is a treadmill brand? When I google Treadmaster I get: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=treadmaster&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq= Am I missing something here? | ||
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On January 24 2010 10:52 meeple wrote: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=773537 I was under the impression that it was a colloquialism :< Oh. Shows how much I go to the gym amiright? Well then I'd say the case between tredmasta and flamewheel is equally strong... | ||
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As for the double lynch, I still don't think we should use it just yet. I don't see the need to use it until we get at least 1 mafia. | ||
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On January 24 2010 20:39 Ng5 wrote: This still sounds like something of a no sex on the first date excuse for me. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm working on a Utilitarian basis here. Think about it. We need to bring Mafia down to 4 players to reduce them to 2 KP. They're at 7 right now. The double lynch is designed to effectively eliminate 2 Mafia members when the Townies are almost certain of two identities of two Mafia members. It's not supposed to be used as a random guessing tool. We should at least wait for more clues and a Mafia lynch that could swing us in one direction or another before using the double lynch. However, I don't think there's enough basis to suddenly put DH on the top of our list of suspects. It's good to keep this in mind though. It seems like we're just grasping at straws trying to get at DH. Remember that we still have 2 mafia members who we don't have clues for yet. We should take a step back and wait for those so we have a comprehensive picture before incriminating someone on the basis of shadows. By the way, what was the basis for accusing keit of being a mafia again? I'm too lazy to go back and search through the thread again. | ||
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 . Well I abstained because at the time I didn't think we had enough information to lynch anybody, so I ended up voting to abstain so no one would be biased by the number of votes or something.In any case, I think kane]deth['s green flip means that we need to get everybody to talk. The fact that kane never came in once to defend himself really confused us and we started to point our fingers at shadows. We should really rethink our game plan. | ||
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On January 26 2010 07:35 789 wrote: Ok, so what I just did was compare postcounts vs post on the site in the last week in general. The high post count on the site in general gets rid of the "don't have time" issue. Mystlord JohannesH skronch These are the three names that stood out on that cross check. Skronch especially ... with almost 100 posts in the last week and only 1 here. Really? I'm surprised that I didn't get more suspicion directed at me. In any case, the majority of my post count comes from the Live Report threads, and I have to devote a lot of attention to streaming, but I try to post here when I'm not streaming or doing other stuff. Regardless, I think the time has come to STOP picking out specifics from the posts and start looking at the overall picture. Twice before we've failed lynching based on clues by picking out a specific part of the story and ignoring everything else. Like the last one, we just focused on the weaponry that we lost sight of other aspects of the murder such as the "like a wild animal" and the "high-pitched snicker" and the broken garage door (which is certainly not a subtle way of announcing your intentions). So basically, we're just trying to take out a small section of the clues and trying to apply it on a larger basis. That said, here's my take on the clues recently revealed to us: 789's Death - We have a mysterious figure. He also seems to be rather cold-hearted, as he cannot figure out what the flowers are supposed to mean (or at least that's my take). Yet the way in which he murdered 789 seems to indicate that he's not afraid of a messy death. I think the fact that he looked at 789 with "haughty disdain" might also be significant in that it matches up with the 2nd Mafia member from Day 1, but there is no sign of the cleanliness here, so I'd presume that it's a different guy. Zona's Death - This one is almost certainly extremely telling in the method through which he was killed. It was through poison, which apparently started as some liquid spilled in the ground that evaporated to form a poisonous mist. Interestingly enough, the killer is able to get past it with only a scarf tied around his mouth, which certainly wouldn't be enough to protect any normal person from such a gas, but apparently this guy can handle small amounts of the gas, or the scarf acts like a filter. Either way, the guy took off the scarf to kill Zona, which means that the killer might not necessarily need it? Faronel's Death - Again, we have a reference to the barbarous nature of the attacker. It's a similar situation to the figure described in Abenson's killing in Day 2, but this guy is certainly MUCH more barbarous in nature. This makes me believe that it's NOT the same person. The fact that the killer picked through the pockets for food leads me to lean towards the Cookie Monster as has been previous stated. I've at least watched enough Family Guy to know of the Cookie Monster's rather insane personality I'm still trying to figure out who clues 1 and 2 could be referring to, but I'm almost certain that Clue 3 refers to keit | ||
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