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Jugan
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Can't wait for it to start, I'll be checking every 6 hours or so XD | ||
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On January 20 2010 11:37 The_Master wrote: I just did a quick survey of all the profiles. We have 10 people with only quotes to relate to clues: Jugan derfboy Zona Bill Murray StimiLant Fallen_arK Mystlord CynanMachae citi.zen Ng5 And there are six players with completely empty profiles (no picture, or quote or anything) Ser Aspi Nikoner 789 Faronel ohN magicbullet Everyone else at least has a quote and a picture, although I highly doubt we'll be able to get any correct information off of just the first day's clues anyway. Just thought I'd toss this out there. Ah, I'll put up a picture and everything soon. I'm kinda new to posting  | ||
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Jugan is the name of a dragon btw lol. | ||
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On January 20 2010 16:07 Mystlord wrote: @Zona - Well, the only real clue that can be construed from outside of the killing scene is the fact that it says Perhaps indicating that the two mafia members are part of the new players to the game, so that could narrow down our search considerably in that area. That's a good point... However, aren't most of the players (if not all) of them newcomers? | ||
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On January 21 2010 07:07 Nikoner wrote: But what if you got elected mayor? Think of the possibilites. With regards to the "no lynch issue", since it's mostly agreed that our most stable suspicions are a bit of a mist in the wind at the moment, we should start lynching off the inactive/silent members first, as mafia members can easily sneak in their ranks to hide their identity for, basically, free. There shouldn't be a no-lynch day imo. Well it makes no sense to lynch an inactive player because they won't do anything. A silent player is not a good choice either, because they already stand out - some one who doesn't contribute in a game like this is obviously up to something, and therefore the clues will point us in their direction later anyway. If, however, they are silent because they are lazy or don't like to discuss anything, then sure that's cool too because they're not going to negatively impact us anyway. The point is it's better to take a gamble on some one suspicious on the first day because we'll know where we stand. Also, do the mafia know who each other are? I thought roles were not disclosed to others. Additionally, are we allowed to discuss things via PM? I didn't read anything in the rules about that but I could be wrong. I'm just wondering because if a detective role checks some one, who are they going to tell? They'll have a fat target on their back if they go HEY GUYS THIS DUDE IS A MAFIA GUY. He will be put in the spotlight whether he is a real detective or not. Not sure who I'm going to vote for yet, personally I don't really care as long as they're not a mafia guy. | ||
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while we have no reason to suspect meeple, you can say that for anyone. The clues are not definitive, they could be tricky, complex, misleading. Often times we get clues wrong the first time... When we come back to them later, we go "ahhhh... THAT was why X happened and we found Y there." etc. etc. I don't think we should worry about electing a mafia member. If they're a bad sheriff/mayor, we can interpret their actions to figure out who's in the mafia. If they're a good sheriff/mayor, then we win. For a player like myself, it's hard. I've read every post on here, and I'm still not sure of what the best course of action is for myself. This is also partly because I'm not ready to jump the gun and accuse some one, nor am I ready to over analyze something and attempt to draw a conclusion from it until there are more facts/clues to go along with it. Right now, I can trust no one. I can only hope I'm not the miller :/ | ||
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On January 21 2010 12:23 Abenson wrote: I'm so confused right now.... The clues don't seem to tell anything in the Day 1 post... D; Anyways.... I think that we should stick with hard facts for now, and I really think T_co is extremely suspicious like most of you, but I think we should observe before doing anything rash. Yes, thinking and observing before doing anything rash is always a good idea. I agree 100% | ||
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On January 21 2010 12:16 citi.zen wrote: I think we can't go wrong lynching t_co: if he is guilty, we have many leads to investigate and gain a huge advantage. If he turns out to have been innocent after we killed him, then all those guys are exonerated. So one way or another, lynching him brings some clarity. First, I'm reluctant to cast a vote against t_co. While he may seem obnoxious and is at the very center of the controversy in the game, he may very well be innocent. The truth? We simply don't know. While I'm not saying he's a good guy... he does have a lot of experience. That means he could be invaluable for us. If he is indeed mafia, it's still early in the game - we can also come back and lynch him if we have more evidence against him. However, I strongly advise NOT to vote for him in the election. His arguments have a lot of faulty logic, and it seems as if he is desperate to be elected. I think this is making a lot of people suspect him to be mafia. To me, it's more likely that he feels that he himself gives the townies the greatest chance of winning (assuming he really is a green/blue). I'd like to note that t_co made the following statement: + Show Spoiler + In light of the new situation, then, there is a clear way to solve this problem, and it involves lynching one of us three on night one. Me, DrH, or meeples. DrH or meeples are the better candidates for this because once one goes and flips red/green it removes a large portion of doubt regarding the other person's color. Solution: If I am elected, I will lynch meeples. Then, if meeples flips green, I want the town to lynch me. If meeples flips red, then lynch DrH and go down the 789 list. but contradicted that statement with an earlier statement of his own: + Show Spoiler + However, it is extremely difficult to lynch either the sheriff or the mayor (especially if one is mafia) If you are mafia, then you win - as proven by your own logic. Also, there are a lot of holes in t_co's argument. Again, I think he's trying too hard to get elected. | ||
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On January 21 2010 14:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: lol what what do you mean a free pass. I voted for him because he was inactive. I'm not voting for you because your arguments are stupid and you're pointing fingers all over the fucking place. Voting for meeple does not mean I support him 100% and he is my best friend. I voted for him because he has been objective and had a cool attitude, in opposition to you who has been very aggressive. I agree with the doctor. The best way to push people away is to get aggressive and go after people. I think if you tried to rationalize things instead of pointing fingers and trying to make up logic as you go, you would be more successful in being elected. At first t_co I wanted to vote for you because your original post brought me in - I'm new to this game, and i'm not 100% "here" yet, I'm still figuring things out. You demonstrated experience and knowledge of the game. However, upon further reading, your arguments and accusations and faulty logic pushed me away. | ||
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On January 21 2010 14:34 t_co wrote: Given that logic, the best thing then would be to lynch me if this aggression is detrimental to the town. And I fully agree--because then it would cast a more certain eye toward who the real mafia were. You're the one causing the aggression here. If you toned it down, I'm sure we can all work things out. The Doctor isn't on your ass man, but you're flying accusations at him. The more you do it, the more it casts you in a bad light not only to him but to the rest of the town. Just tone it down, get by the first night, and we can work things out. I'm sure there's a lot of emotions riding on your post too. You want to win, i get that. We all do - so just chillax. | ||
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I wouldn't concern yourself with most of it Meeple, i doubt anyone suspects you based on t_co's accusations. | ||
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Now let's move on to a different topic. | ||
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On January 21 2010 22:37 meeple wrote: True, it could be a charade from the beginning... if he's got time to make a banner like that, programming something shouldn't be out of his league. I can program things too. It's not hard to make a program. However, it's another matter to program something correctly (even for an expert programmer, one can make mistakes). Judging from his code, he seems to be a novice programming. We have no idea if he actually programmed it correctly or went about doing it with the correct methodology. 789: Why would you switch your vote to t_co? No one likes him, and if you read his arguments, they make little to no sense and he contradicts himself more than once. | ||
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On January 22 2010 02:49 789 wrote: Well, I will explain my reasoning on my vote, take it as you may, believe me or not. I'm trying to consider worse case scenarios for mafia getting elected to positions. Keep in mind, I'm not accusing anyone of being mafia through this. At this point I can pretty confidently say I don't think t_co and doctorH are both mafia. If t_co is elected the worst case is the mafia gets 1 of the positions. I consider it more likely doctorH and meeple are on the same side (either townies or mafia) compared to t_co and doctorH. So if doctorH and meeple are both elected any of the 3 combinations is possible, 2 townies, 1 of each, and 2 mafia. I'm trying to ride the fence and get at least 1 townie into one of the elected positions. So I went with t_co as I believe it gives the best chance of getting at least 1. I think my reasoning there is decently sound. I could be wrong. At this point if I changed my vote off t_co it would be suspicious anyway. I'd rather have some one competent in office - they will be obligated to help us. If they have a hidden mafia agenda, then they are bound to slip up somewhere and we can deduce his accomplices along the way. Now, if you want to elect a crazy guy that wants to kill everyone, then yeah go ahead and vote for t_co... not to mention he's likely not likely to work in unison with the town (as i see so far no one wants to start killing random people without intelligent analyses). | ||
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