• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:20
CEST 15:20
KST 22:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out6RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 5/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Michaelbg appreciation thread How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5505 users

Europe to Investigate the UN Over H1N1 ‘Pandemic’

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 11 2010 11:36 GMT
#1
We all know how the H1N1 began as an unknown disease in Mexico and then spread to all over the world and ever since has been called by WHO as a Worldwide Pandemic
There is a H1N1 virus, its can spread with swift speed. But does it really have a potential to kill millions of people and become a pandemic?
Or maybe it just a scam from those pharmaceutical companies that have their influence within the WHO and thus using that influence to rip-off the whole world?

I qoute the following from various press:

The European Union is set to investigate the World Health Organization’s swine flu campaign this month over allegations of improper influence from pharmaceutical companies in declaring the H1N1 “pandemic” and the promotion of “inefficient” and potentially dangerous vaccination strategies.

The resolution to launch the emergency inquiry was approved by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) and passed through the health committee unanimously. It states in part that “in order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies, and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.”

Leading the charge for the probe is German epidemiologist Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, the chairman of the PACE health committee and a medical doctor specializing in lung disease. “The victims among millions of needlessly vaccinated people must be protected by their states and independent scientific clarification should provide evidence and transparency for national and — if necessary — European courts,” Wodarg said in a statement.

Wodarg called the “false pandemic” one of the greatest medical scandals of the last century and said that pharmaceutical companies influenced the whole process and needed to be held accountable. They were willing to "inflict bodily harm in their pursuit of profits," he said. Articles in the European press, starting in Denmark and spreading, have repeatedly called into question the myriad ties between vaccine manufacturers and decision makers in the United Nations' global health body.''

You guys can read the source here:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/2697-eu-to-investigate-who-false-pandemic-scandal
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18527

I dont know about this, but really, if this is the scam made by pharmaceutical companies in order to make profit. They should all be bought to justice. If true, this is very very wrong.
Terran
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
January 11 2010 11:39 GMT
#2
What people do for money..
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
January 11 2010 11:43 GMT
#3
I thought it was obvious that this was a scam for the longest time.
Hopefully if these pharmaceutical companies are actually brought to justice, maybe we'll also see an improvement in healthcare technologies because people looking to do something other than make money will be put in charge.
Then again i just expect to keep getting ripped off.
U Gotta Skate.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 11 2010 11:44 GMT
#4
lol they called global warming a rip-off too.

The world gets conned so much nowadays it isn't even funny.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 11 2010 11:45 GMT
#5
it's a possibility, but the prospect of a deadly worldwide swine flu "pandemic" was a serious issue until they discovered it's rather low mortality rate.

however i do agree that pharmaceutical companies have some sort of influence over organizations like the WHO based on the fact that we have not seemed to have any sort of medical progress toward curing major diseases. pharmaceutical companies make a killing, quite literally, over the expensive prescription drug cocktails that combat the effects of cancer treatment and the retrovirals HIV positive individuals depend on to survive.
The Show of a Lifetime
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 11 2010 11:49 GMT
#6
With global warming there's no one that's going to be making any money. In fact, it will reduce economic growth.

The vaccine actually ended up having little side effects. But yeah it's a big problem to know beforehand how the virus will mutate and how dangerous it will actually become.
But it's also true people demand from governments to do something even if it doesn't make a difference.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
January 11 2010 11:50 GMT
#7
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 11 2010 11:51 GMT
#8
WHO is Watching WHO
Rillanon.au
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 11:53:07
January 11 2010 11:52 GMT
#9
Oh snap.

Good thing I never took the vaccine then :D

EDIT:
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

o/ here.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
January 11 2010 11:53 GMT
#10
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

o/ o/ o/ me me me
Forever Vulture.. :(
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
January 11 2010 12:30 GMT
#11
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/


o/
I didn't have the chance and if i had, i wouldn't do it 200%. From the beginning i knew it is bullshit and also didn't trust the vaccine at all.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 11 2010 12:39 GMT
#12
I couldn't agree more. I have thought the same thing about the swine flu and the medical companies for a long time, and the flu is just so blown out of proportion. It's ridiculous, people get a feeling that this is a super-dangerous flu that will kill a big part of the earths population. This picture is fueled by medical companies influencing health organizations on a governmental level, and when official sources say that the swine flu is very dangerous people believe that.

Medical companies are so problematic, I don't know why they aren't discussed more. Everything from anti-depressants to flu vaccins serve one purpose mainly; money. I chose not to take vaccine shots for the flu and I'm glad I didn't. I haven't become ill, and no one I know has become ill, so wtf.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
January 11 2010 12:40 GMT
#13
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

\o I'll high five you on that one. Our kids were invited to the vaccination program but we refused that. Fear mongering is way popular.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
January 11 2010 12:42 GMT
#14
o/ I don't think you really need a vaccine for H1N1 and there are a bunch of stories about bad side effects from taking the vaccine.



I bet someone is going to post the video of that girl "c walking" or whatever


I just found this video about the vaccine's side effects.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:42:37
January 11 2010 12:42 GMT
#15
How could you know it's bs beforehand? What we actually heard from scientific institutions was a consensus that the virus was potentially dangerous especially to certain groups of people, so wouldn't it make sense to take the vaccine as recommended, if not to protect yourself then perhaps in order to protect small children, diabetics etc?
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:49:50
January 11 2010 12:43 GMT
#16
Roche bought TAMIFLU from Gilead Sciences, whose President was Donald Rumsfeld. Then, the bird flu threatens to kill 150 million people old news. The sales they got back then look not enough, then they manage to get another "market" with the swine flu.

I'm glad somebody is clean enough to investigate this but I'm also sure that if this is true, they will erase the truth in a blink of an eye.

EDIT: I can't find any source for this other than "alternative news sources". The Europarl site has no info either.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
HobbitGotGame
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada178 Posts
January 11 2010 12:47 GMT
#17
Why the hell would I wait hours in line at a clinic for a vaccine that's supposed to protect me from a bug that's weaker than the normal flu virus floating around?

o/
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 11 2010 12:54 GMT
#18
On January 11 2010 21:42 hifriend wrote:
How could you know it's bs beforehand? What we actually heard from scientific institutions was a consensus that the virus was potentially dangerous especially to certain groups of people, so wouldn't it make sense to take the vaccine as recommended, if not to protect yourself then perhaps in order to protect small children, diabetics etc?


Because the same thing has happened with the bird flu for instance where there were to be an estimated 150 million deaths worldwide according to UN chief. There are about 250 people who've died from bird flu worldwide so far...

I think you fail to understand the key point discussed here: the fact that medical companies influence scientific institutions ALOT, creating panic and alarms that are blown out way out of proportion. And that is actually an understatement.

Also, 99% of the people who get the flu and don't have a very serious underlying illness just get a regular flu and then become healthy again. Why the hell should we get expensive flu shots for that?
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:58:17
January 11 2010 12:55 GMT
#19
lol even if it's BS you can't know that. Especially not beforehand, wtf.

And all these people raising hands are irrelevant. If you weren't at risk there's no need for a vaccine as flu normally doesn't kill you. The thing was everyone getting it. The people that need to get flu shots also got this special flu shot. And the side effects were almost non-existent.

Now the question about the money made and the industry paying the ad visors, that's something else.

Same thing didn't happen with the bird flu. And these estimates are very specific ones. They didn't predict 100% that 150 million people were going to die. That's stupid. We just know that a virus comes by every once in a while and kills a lot of people. It has happened before and modern society is only more susceptible to it. A virus can travel the planet super fast too.
That somehow it gets turned into a media hype is odd. Maybe the industry is behind that. Blame it on the media and the people watching. Not on the scientists.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:58:38
January 11 2010 12:56 GMT
#20
o/

This disease is overrated. And I'm supposedly "at risk" because of asthma.
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 19
IntoTheiNu 1573
WardiTV472
RotterdaM418
SteadfastSC93
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 18
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 418
TKL 160
Rex 109
SteadfastSC 87
CosmosSc2 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 60285
Shuttle 3197
Mini 852
Bisu 846
Soulkey 655
firebathero 653
Light 587
Soma 427
Rush 382
Zeus 318
[ Show more ]
Larva 295
Stork 225
Snow 195
EffOrt 173
Last 159
Free 133
ZerO 132
Killer 128
hero 118
Sharp 89
Barracks 81
Hyun 70
sorry 69
PianO 53
ToSsGirL 43
soO 42
Sexy 35
Terrorterran 35
JYJ 28
yabsab 27
Hm[arnc] 26
Shine 25
sSak 24
JulyZerg 21
zelot 13
Icarus 6
Rock 5
Dota 2
Dendi1840
qojqva3
Counter-Strike
fl0m4438
olofmeister1366
byalli472
Other Games
B2W.Neo682
hiko403
Lowko356
crisheroes265
DeMusliM199
Fuzer 184
Mew2King117
Sick110
Liquid`LucifroN102
QueenE69
Liquid`VortiX49
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1366
Other Games
BasetradeTV49
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 13
• EnkiAlexander 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV331
League of Legends
• Jankos1322
• TFBlade516
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 40m
The PondCast
20h 40m
PiG Sty Festival
22h 40m
Serral vs Lambo
SHIN vs Rogue
OSC
23h 40m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Escore
1d 20h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 22h
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
The PiG Daily
2 days
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
OSC
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The Patches Monday
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-11
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.