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Europe to Investigate the UN Over H1N1 ‘Pandemic’

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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 11 2010 11:36 GMT
#1
We all know how the H1N1 began as an unknown disease in Mexico and then spread to all over the world and ever since has been called by WHO as a Worldwide Pandemic
There is a H1N1 virus, its can spread with swift speed. But does it really have a potential to kill millions of people and become a pandemic?
Or maybe it just a scam from those pharmaceutical companies that have their influence within the WHO and thus using that influence to rip-off the whole world?

I qoute the following from various press:

The European Union is set to investigate the World Health Organization’s swine flu campaign this month over allegations of improper influence from pharmaceutical companies in declaring the H1N1 “pandemic” and the promotion of “inefficient” and potentially dangerous vaccination strategies.

The resolution to launch the emergency inquiry was approved by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) and passed through the health committee unanimously. It states in part that “in order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies, and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.”

Leading the charge for the probe is German epidemiologist Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, the chairman of the PACE health committee and a medical doctor specializing in lung disease. “The victims among millions of needlessly vaccinated people must be protected by their states and independent scientific clarification should provide evidence and transparency for national and — if necessary — European courts,” Wodarg said in a statement.

Wodarg called the “false pandemic” one of the greatest medical scandals of the last century and said that pharmaceutical companies influenced the whole process and needed to be held accountable. They were willing to "inflict bodily harm in their pursuit of profits," he said. Articles in the European press, starting in Denmark and spreading, have repeatedly called into question the myriad ties between vaccine manufacturers and decision makers in the United Nations' global health body.''

You guys can read the source here:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/2697-eu-to-investigate-who-false-pandemic-scandal
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18527

I dont know about this, but really, if this is the scam made by pharmaceutical companies in order to make profit. They should all be bought to justice. If true, this is very very wrong.
Terran
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
January 11 2010 11:39 GMT
#2
What people do for money..
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
January 11 2010 11:43 GMT
#3
I thought it was obvious that this was a scam for the longest time.
Hopefully if these pharmaceutical companies are actually brought to justice, maybe we'll also see an improvement in healthcare technologies because people looking to do something other than make money will be put in charge.
Then again i just expect to keep getting ripped off.
U Gotta Skate.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 11 2010 11:44 GMT
#4
lol they called global warming a rip-off too.

The world gets conned so much nowadays it isn't even funny.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 11 2010 11:45 GMT
#5
it's a possibility, but the prospect of a deadly worldwide swine flu "pandemic" was a serious issue until they discovered it's rather low mortality rate.

however i do agree that pharmaceutical companies have some sort of influence over organizations like the WHO based on the fact that we have not seemed to have any sort of medical progress toward curing major diseases. pharmaceutical companies make a killing, quite literally, over the expensive prescription drug cocktails that combat the effects of cancer treatment and the retrovirals HIV positive individuals depend on to survive.
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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 11 2010 11:49 GMT
#6
With global warming there's no one that's going to be making any money. In fact, it will reduce economic growth.

The vaccine actually ended up having little side effects. But yeah it's a big problem to know beforehand how the virus will mutate and how dangerous it will actually become.
But it's also true people demand from governments to do something even if it doesn't make a difference.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
January 11 2010 11:50 GMT
#7
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 11 2010 11:51 GMT
#8
WHO is Watching WHO
Rillanon.au
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 11:53:07
January 11 2010 11:52 GMT
#9
Oh snap.

Good thing I never took the vaccine then :D

EDIT:
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

o/ here.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
January 11 2010 11:53 GMT
#10
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

o/ o/ o/ me me me
Forever Vulture.. :(
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
January 11 2010 12:30 GMT
#11
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/


o/
I didn't have the chance and if i had, i wouldn't do it 200%. From the beginning i knew it is bullshit and also didn't trust the vaccine at all.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 11 2010 12:39 GMT
#12
I couldn't agree more. I have thought the same thing about the swine flu and the medical companies for a long time, and the flu is just so blown out of proportion. It's ridiculous, people get a feeling that this is a super-dangerous flu that will kill a big part of the earths population. This picture is fueled by medical companies influencing health organizations on a governmental level, and when official sources say that the swine flu is very dangerous people believe that.

Medical companies are so problematic, I don't know why they aren't discussed more. Everything from anti-depressants to flu vaccins serve one purpose mainly; money. I chose not to take vaccine shots for the flu and I'm glad I didn't. I haven't become ill, and no one I know has become ill, so wtf.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
January 11 2010 12:40 GMT
#13
On January 11 2010 20:50 NonFactor wrote:
Raise your hand if you had the possibility to get a vaccine easily but decided not to because you knew it was bullshit and nothing really to be affraid of!

o/

\o I'll high five you on that one. Our kids were invited to the vaccination program but we refused that. Fear mongering is way popular.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
January 11 2010 12:42 GMT
#14
o/ I don't think you really need a vaccine for H1N1 and there are a bunch of stories about bad side effects from taking the vaccine.



I bet someone is going to post the video of that girl "c walking" or whatever


I just found this video about the vaccine's side effects.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:42:37
January 11 2010 12:42 GMT
#15
How could you know it's bs beforehand? What we actually heard from scientific institutions was a consensus that the virus was potentially dangerous especially to certain groups of people, so wouldn't it make sense to take the vaccine as recommended, if not to protect yourself then perhaps in order to protect small children, diabetics etc?
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:49:50
January 11 2010 12:43 GMT
#16
Roche bought TAMIFLU from Gilead Sciences, whose President was Donald Rumsfeld. Then, the bird flu threatens to kill 150 million people old news. The sales they got back then look not enough, then they manage to get another "market" with the swine flu.

I'm glad somebody is clean enough to investigate this but I'm also sure that if this is true, they will erase the truth in a blink of an eye.

EDIT: I can't find any source for this other than "alternative news sources". The Europarl site has no info either.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
HobbitGotGame
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada178 Posts
January 11 2010 12:47 GMT
#17
Why the hell would I wait hours in line at a clinic for a vaccine that's supposed to protect me from a bug that's weaker than the normal flu virus floating around?

o/
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 11 2010 12:54 GMT
#18
On January 11 2010 21:42 hifriend wrote:
How could you know it's bs beforehand? What we actually heard from scientific institutions was a consensus that the virus was potentially dangerous especially to certain groups of people, so wouldn't it make sense to take the vaccine as recommended, if not to protect yourself then perhaps in order to protect small children, diabetics etc?


Because the same thing has happened with the bird flu for instance where there were to be an estimated 150 million deaths worldwide according to UN chief. There are about 250 people who've died from bird flu worldwide so far...

I think you fail to understand the key point discussed here: the fact that medical companies influence scientific institutions ALOT, creating panic and alarms that are blown out way out of proportion. And that is actually an understatement.

Also, 99% of the people who get the flu and don't have a very serious underlying illness just get a regular flu and then become healthy again. Why the hell should we get expensive flu shots for that?
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:58:17
January 11 2010 12:55 GMT
#19
lol even if it's BS you can't know that. Especially not beforehand, wtf.

And all these people raising hands are irrelevant. If you weren't at risk there's no need for a vaccine as flu normally doesn't kill you. The thing was everyone getting it. The people that need to get flu shots also got this special flu shot. And the side effects were almost non-existent.

Now the question about the money made and the industry paying the ad visors, that's something else.

Same thing didn't happen with the bird flu. And these estimates are very specific ones. They didn't predict 100% that 150 million people were going to die. That's stupid. We just know that a virus comes by every once in a while and kills a lot of people. It has happened before and modern society is only more susceptible to it. A virus can travel the planet super fast too.
That somehow it gets turned into a media hype is odd. Maybe the industry is behind that. Blame it on the media and the people watching. Not on the scientists.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 12:58:38
January 11 2010 12:56 GMT
#20
o/

This disease is overrated. And I'm supposedly "at risk" because of asthma.
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