On August 01 2011 13:50 t0bs3n wrote: Nice to see you expanded my article, I sent you in 2010. You got more into detail. However a pity it is now "your" work as well as I was thinking on my own to expand the article ...
Ehh no, I didn't use your article. tbh I don't even have it on my hard drive anymore, sorry. Honestly. Thanks for the effort you put into it nonetheless; I'll have it sent to me and see if I can extract some interesting stuff from it.
On August 01 2011 18:27 djWHEAT wrote: This is great. I would love to work with the OP to add some awesome detail to this.
It's a great start but even as I read it I realise so much is missing (not necessarily absolute have to have facts, but interesting things fans would lobe to know!!)
Sounds great, feel free to get in touch with me/PM me.
Just be aware that my main problem was to not let it get out of hand. I'm pretty sure a lot of the stuff people think I "forgot" was simply left out or even removed. Or do you guys really not mind if it gets even longer?
Specific things I'd like to add. I'm from the UK, so some of these events may have a UK/European focus.
- Deathmatch95 in Seattle (Doom2) - Clan Nine vs Deathrow: The first real intercontinental event that I can at least remember. - The QW US vs Europe event at Rapture99. - The TGI (True Gamers Invitational). - The WCGC (trail for WCG) - The event everyone seems to have forgot happened. - The Barrysworld European Quake3 TDM Championships, at The Playing Fields in London (Barrysworld are a great example of a victim of the first gaming recession).
"Frod vs. 4Kings on cbble. One of the best POV"s I've ever seen."
Holy crap, obscure reference or what ;D <3 GotFrag before MLG killed it.
EDIT: I still really think the OP should mention CXG since it's one of the most important lessons to learn from US esports. Basically they ofterred $1mill prize money and failed to prepare for the event. They had net problems and the like and basically just called off the whole thing, pocketing (presumably) most of the prize pool.
Mmmh, I guess you're right, I should mention it (it was "only" 600 000 $ though).
added:
January 2004: The Cyber X Games in Las Vegas, USA turn out to be a huge disaster. They are announced as a revolutionary tournament for CS, WC3, UT2003 and other games, with over 600 000 $ in prize money. However, the event is very poorly organized and network issues force the organisers to cancel the majority of the tournaments, including the Counter-Strike one. In the end, a big part of the prize money isn't distributed at all and many teams and players travel all the way to Las Vegas for no reason.
On August 01 2011 12:13 jlake02 wrote: Super happy about your post!!
I did an interview with ESFI today where I expressed my frustration that people don't bother to learn eSports history. (I hadn't seen this thread yet.)
Thank you and well done!
Thanks! You know, someone had to do it.
Just watched your ESFI interview – omg, it's just great. Everyone should watch it.
Great trip down memory lane, love reading all the old CS stuff(<3 Na 'Vi, <3 Complexity). After reading this im amazed at how much of this stuff I had forgotten about, and how much I didn't know, especially how large the prize pools were back then.
Great work mate, looking forward to any updates too.
Also felt DotA was missing from it, some revolutionary things there such as links to streams from the ingame menu screen, massive funding being provided by the company behind DotA, DotA being a subscribe game (i think? no expert here) etc.
EPT
as well as I was thinking on my own to expand the article ...
Honestly. Thanks for the effort you put into it nonetheless; I'll have it sent to me and see if I can extract some interesting stuff from it.
