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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 08 2013 10:53 GMT
#141
Anyways, off to a nerd-shop to buy a boardgame my friend asked me to buy while I'm here. And once that's done I'm going back to my parents place so I won't be available the next 2 hours or so.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 10:59 GMT
#142
as town, we don't want to lynch town, and we don't want to lynch the jester, so if you were pushing a random lynch (and that's what it seems like, your reasoning makes no sense to me) there would be a 1 out of 5 chance of hitting something that helps town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 11:52 GMT
#143
This just in, Toad probably the lyncher.

His argument is shit too, "he doesn't want to lynch so he's the lyncher".
I'm just SURE, that with me being the lyncher, I'd TOTALLY not want to lynch people. Makes sense. Since he somehow pretended I wanted to wifom with the first post, how would be 'know' I'm lyncher and not jester?
He can't.

He just wants to lynch people for the hell of it.
Which means he's the lyncher. (ITS EVEN IN THE NAME)

ofc that also means I'm probably not his target. That'd be too obvious.

On January 08 2013 19:52 Toadesstern wrote:
why should we no-lynch? That's not pro-town. And wayne pro-town in general, play pro-wincon.

Lynching the Lyncher = 1 player less that can make me lose by accidently lynching another guy. You should want that no matter of alignment as well, shouldn't you?

Here's the thing: You talk bullshit.
Which means you either didn't think about the setup at all (likely, you play dota), or you think you can convince people to lynch today, even though it's baaaaad strategy.

this is also why you can't be scum. I guess dota is more of a third-party-tell after all.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:03 GMT
#144
On January 08 2013 13:27 JieXian wrote:
wth dandel how are you still awake aren't you in austria...

Magic

On January 08 2013 13:30 JieXian wrote:
and dandel why are you calling me a lurker when only the 2 of your plus toad are posting lol

Cause you are. And you will.
Feel free to prove me wrong.

On January 08 2013 17:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hello, I am back, dandel just wants to have a good time yo. Don't understand your FoS though, not even ironically, care to explain it?

The point stands. Not much more to say about it.

On January 08 2013 18:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh I went to bed after dota. So let's lynch Dandel. I don't think he's the jester due to this post:

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 08:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
In all seriousness, how we need to proceed:

1) No policy lynches
There's a Jester in the game. If we establish a policy, he'll just intentionally not follow it. So establishing lynch policies is useless.

2) Don't rush shit
Don't vote uselessly. Don't hammer random people.

3) Don't massclaim
It helps nobody.

4) No-lynch on day 1.
Let the yak clear out the playing field in the night. No point in lynching somebody only to have lyncher/jester win out of nowhere.
Sure, a scum lynch on day 1 would be sweet, but let's stay real.

which means lynching him is going to help me and everyone else unless he's the target of the lyncher.

Obviously we could go try and scumhunt for a mafia d1 lynch but I don't think it's going to happen simply because we've got 3 anti-town forces in a 6 man set-up.
If we lynch mafia d1 the lyncher and the jester have lost the game so they'll do whatever it takes to not let that happen.

Not to mention that scum is probably going to play really different this game due to the set-up which makes scumhunting almost impossible, so everyone should try and role-hunt for their own sake. We don't want to help other people to win the game after all.

#BELIEVE
Let's kill Dandel


Let's be frank here, the Lyncher basicly wants to not look like a Lyncher and I do think Dandel is trying to not look like a Lyncher/Jester here. Let's get rid of him everyone.

If you want to lynch me, vote me like a man.
You are not playing like a man.

On January 08 2013 19:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your argument for him not being a jester should also apply to him not being a lyncher, he started out the thread by saying he doesn't want a lynch today. Also if you believe him to be the lyncher then a no-lynch would benefit you still, unless you're not town ofcourse.

I mean, I guess I see what you're doing, you think you might be able to figure out who's scum from the voting today, but from what I've read about the yakuza role it is generally proper play to sacrifice yourself n1.

nah. It is proper play to not look like a lyncher as lyncher so him not looking like a lyncher on the first post (not really a hard one to do...) really is indicative of him being one.
I don't think he'd post that carefree as jester.

That's the deal.

I never even played third party, but it's reassuring to know that you totally know what I would do in that case.
Looks very legit, tell me more about my 3p play. I'm curious.

On January 08 2013 19:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around what pro-town is this game though.

We no-lynch day 1 because we can't lynch scum day 1, but then the only way for town to have a majority day 2 is if scum kills third party and doesn't use his ability, or if he does it has to hit the other third party. If either hits town and they aren't prevented then it will be 2-2 town-antitown.

The only person that seems he wants to win as town aligned would be the shrink. The PGO is hoping he gets yakuzad and the doctor has a bigger chance of winning as scum.

So I guess my question to you toad is, how does it benefit you to lynch the lyncher?

This is incomplete thinking. Not wrong, but incomplete.
Blues can win as blue. Scum shoots the PGO = victory
Shrink prots correctly = victory

The one that superficially WANTS to get turned is the medic, but there's another layer to that.
If you're blue (like I'm suspecting) you should think about how you can win and the ways to achieve that.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:05 GMT
#145
"I'm afraid of the lyncher, I think dandel is the lyncher, therefore I want to lynch him." Makes no sense.
I'm not convinced of toad being anything yet, but even if he were the lyncher I wouldn't want to lynch him. The fact that toad thinks he figured out who the lyncher is and WANTS TO LYNCH HIM FOR IT is absurd
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:05 GMT
#146
Deino, you post too please.
I know it's intimating to roll scum, but don't worry about outing yourself, you won't get lynched today.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:06 GMT
#147
On January 08 2013 21:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'm afraid of the lyncher, I think dandel is the lyncher, therefore I want to lynch him." Makes no sense.
I'm not convinced of toad being anything yet, but even if he were the lyncher I wouldn't want to lynch him. The fact that toad thinks he figured out who the lyncher is and WANTS TO LYNCH HIM FOR IT is absurd

Correct.
We don't lynch Toad.
We don't lynch anything.
Toad just salty cuz all the fun happens in the night and the lyncher can't do anything then.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:07 GMT
#148
On January 08 2013 21:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'm afraid of the lyncher, I think dandel is the lyncher, therefore I want to lynch him." Makes no sense.
I'm not convinced of toad being anything yet, but even if he were the lyncher I wouldn't want to lynch him. The fact that toad thinks he figured out who the lyncher is and WANTS TO LYNCH HIM FOR IT is absurd

Correct.
We don't lynch Toad.
We don't lynch anything.
Toad just salty cuz all the fun happens in the night and the lyncher can't do anything then.

Or jester. Can't be sure
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:09 GMT
#149
Dandel at your last bit there, I'm not saying town can't win as town, I'm saying they have little influence over a town victory. Shrink can end the game with a properly targeted night kill, PGO can get hit by the scum and although I'm sure there are subtle ways of trying to make this happen, for the sake of discussion I don't see a way for town to PLAY (read: be active in thread and try to figure it out) to a town victory, at least not today.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:10 GMT
#150
shrink night kill = night action
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:14 GMT
#151
On January 08 2013 21:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Dandel at your last bit there, I'm not saying town can't win as town, I'm saying they have little influence over a town victory. Shrink can end the game with a properly targeted night kill, PGO can get hit by the scum and although I'm sure there are subtle ways of trying to make this happen, for the sake of discussion I don't see a way for town to PLAY (read: be active in thread and try to figure it out) to a town victory, at least not today.

Which is why I advise you to think harder.

If you give it up and do nothing today, because you think you can do nothing, then you will accomplish nothing.
If you're fine with that, then like, whatever man.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:18 GMT
#152
Who's giving up, I'm sparking discussion am I not?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#153
I don't see a way for town to PLAY (read: be active in thread and try to figure it out) to a town victory, at least not today.

Sure does read as giving up. UNLESS YOURE NOT TOWN (dundundun)

But k, enough of that. Lest we be stuck on semantics.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:33 GMT
#154
Or I'm town wanting to win as scum, you decide.

My argument is a logical one, you can't attack it with emotion, it is not me "giving up"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:35 GMT
#155
Nonsense, too early to decide with who you want to win as scum.

Leaving the options open is expected, but not to be stuck on a single path. It would be smarter to consider all options.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:35 GMT
#156
But if you are planning to win with scum, how far are you in your progress of contacting said scum?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:36 GMT
#157
I am considering all options, why do you think I am analyzing aloud to begin with. But instead of contributing to it you say "think harder"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:38 GMT
#158
I have no intention of doing your thinking for you.
Even if I found it lacking, I'd have no resonable motivation to correct you.
Maybe you're completly right all along, though, and I just wanted to confuse you?
Who knows really. (I do)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 12:40 GMT
#159
Also, a lot of the how-to-win stuff has to do with your specific role, which I don't know, although I can wager an educated guess
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 12:41 GMT
#160
But you did correct me, you called my thinking "incomplete", then you stated a bunch of obvious things that are realistically impossible to manipulate at this point
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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