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On December 17 2011 10:16 nttea wrote: ^_^ i am taking over! will probably do all this in one go so it shouldn't be too long but we will see
Take your time writing it though, love good reads 
But yet I ask again.
I had no god damn idea you could deliberately sell advisers. Shit man, that's awesome. Not that I ever really have a use for it, but that's really useful to have if I ever do an OPM game.
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I would like to participate if I can, if not this one, then the next one, obviously. I love paradox's games like Victoria, and Eu3, have a lot of hours logged for both and would definitely be interested.
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the phrase "if you dont hire them within a year they will seek work elsewhere" isnt meaningless :D
6 ducats a year in tax, 16 from advisors np np
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On December 17 2011 10:24 DeepBlu2 wrote: I would like to participate if I can, if not this one, then the next one, obviously. I love paradox's games like Victoria, and Eu3, have a lot of hours logged for both and would definitely be interested.
Sure, you can sign up until the list is full until 1820 or until the last person is playing. I put you on the list.
On another topic, it would me nice if the people would mention in their posts if they have noticed the next in line, because if you don't, i always worry that you didn't.
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Wait, did Lubeck take like half of Denmarks territory or are my eyes deceiving me?
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I truly did write up alot of stuff ... then accidentally hit a key that made it all dissapear... i have no fucking idea how it could have happened normally i just press back on my browser and it's all there but now it's gone will be a much shorter recap of the events im sorry guys i just can't make myself write it with good feeling again.
Doing some renaissance stuff after hiring a philosopher to get our presige up
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england is still ruled by the king of brittany:
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Würtemberg getting diplo annexed and re released after mission:
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should have been giant wall of text here explaining preparations of war n shit, bohemia was very busy with other wars and bavaria itself getting rolled by burgundy so i thought this was a good idea, considering he managed to rally all his allies maybe not so good idea.
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even more text explaining our dire situation and losing a massive army of mercenaries to the bohemians, do i dare face them again with my remaining forces?
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the battles following!
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Now i want to give a poll as to how to proceed, because how i proceed in this war could change the course of the game alot. war already cost us a bit of inflation, and going on could turn things worse, then again we might not get as good opportunity for strengthening our position as this in a long while
Poll: What course of action should we take?Minor expansion, take a territory or two from bavaria to release as vassals, expanding = trouble (5) 56% Press for total victory against bavaria!, make them release nations and take some for ourselves (2) 22% Press for total victory against both bavaria and bohemia, expensive and risky but no pain no gain! (2) 22% Consolidate, we showed them what we're made of that's enough! (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: What course of action should we take? (Vote): Press for total victory against bavaria!, make them release nations and take some for ourselves (Vote): Press for total victory against both bavaria and bohemia, expensive and risky but no pain no gain! (Vote): Minor expansion, take a territory or two from bavaria to release as vassals, expanding = trouble (Vote): Consolidate, we showed them what we're made of that's enough!
ALSO! if you are writing alot of text like i did, do it in a text file then copy it into your forum post! common sense i lacked.
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if baveria has cores on anything you keep as a vassel, you need to crush them so hard they cant fight you. if they dont have cores they will never attempt to take them back
if u take what will become trier and the palintinate they shouldnt have cores on them yet.
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For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat.
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On December 17 2011 12:16 Fruscainte wrote: For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat. I'm not sure what crop out means but i guess just cut out the battle results part from the pictures and post them instead? it's a good idea
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On December 17 2011 12:35 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 12:16 Fruscainte wrote: For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat. I'm not sure what crop out means but i guess just cut out the battle results part from the pictures and post them instead? it's a good idea 
Precisely!
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In my opinion, but i don't really have enough oversight, you should get out of this war while it is still favourable. Those other wars they are in will end some time in the future, and if you don't have units in each of their territories at that time, they will destroy you. Thus, grab as much as you can while it still looks good. But that is just my take on the situation, do whatever you like.
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On December 17 2011 13:01 Simberto wrote: In my opinion, but i don't really have enough oversight, you should get out of this war while it is still favourable. Those other wars they are in will end some time in the future, and if you don't have units in each of their territories at that time, they will destroy you. Thus, grab as much as you can while it still looks good. But that is just my take on the situation, do whatever you like.
I'm clearly no pro -- but in my experience, every time where I've had to sit down and ask myself to settle or to go all in for victory, 100% of the time when I go for the latter it turns out worse than if I just settled. We're too small for a drawn out war.
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wow i already love this game people comitted into it, 3 AARs in one day - nice
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i think the biggest threat is Burgundy for us - so you should perhaps avoid having long boarder with them
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After securing peace with Bavaria and Bohemia, we aquired the former territories of trier, the palatinate and mainz. To avoid complications with the emperor i promptly released them as vassals
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l0Z6s.jpg) i spent the following years putting down inflation acquired from the minting i had to do to pay for all the mercenaries, as well as improving infrastructure mainly in the form of military buildings to increase our available manpower. As time passed by quickly and all was going well, i was happy to feel as if i would pass on this nation with lots of good opportunities for our next player in line. Inflation and infamy was reaching 0, prestige had skyrocketed during this time, economy was just as strong as before,we had acquired additional territory and vassals and our closest rival bavaria had gotten crushed into the ground... Or so i thought.
On Sunday 13th, October 1507 bavaria declared war on our vassal the palatinate, their forces together with their supporting allies numbered over 60thousand! the main portion of which belonged to Bavaria itself, including 2000 cannons. On our side stood 20thousand men of Alsace's and loyal vassals, the numbers painted a grim picture but surely we had overcome those odds before? In our last war the numbers had been even more in favour of the enemy and we had prevailed and then some.
The reason the last war was won so handily last time around had to do with a number of favorable circumstances, Bavaria's main portion of army had already been defeated by burgundy, and in the later stages they had been attacked by additional enemies, meanwhile the only assistance they had gotten from the mighty bohemian emperor had been a paltry troop of 14k men, on account of Bohemia being held up in the east by the golden horde. Even bigger than this factor was that our army consisted mainly of top modern landsknechten infantry while Bavaria and Bohemia still held on to aged medieval equipment and organization, giving us the upper hand in battles. Neither of these factors still hold true, we are still a few years away from being able to employ effective gunpowder infantry and Bavaria has shed itself of the old ways.
I fought this war for a couple of years but it is now time for me to hand the power over, i felt a decision to empty the coffers in an attempt to overwhelm the bavarian army was not my decision to make so i was content merely holding them off as best i could attempting to bleed them out, it does not seem to have been very successful so far and if anyone is looking to bleed out right now its us, Still our traders are bringing in the cash so we have the ability to raise massive mercenary armies should we choose to.
I decided to end with a map of europe i think this is one of the messiest one's i've seen and i have never had pretty everywhere reach ahistorical results everywhere to this level before, are we playing on furious? England is still controlled by the ruler of Brittany by the way but it shouldn't last seeing as how england is now protestant. I always love seeing byzantium survive and this time around they are even catholic. The timurids have taken over alexandria and they refuse to open their markets to me, apparently them being a horde means only the only way in is with a battering ram.
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save is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?tqw51pdw213od1z and i pm'd beef42 to take over! good luck to him^_^
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wow nice map :D
and great job, i like that we are not steamrolling and pwning this game that easily like in game with Sicilly 
I think we can even consider to play "2nd turn" everyone with Alsace
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Hey guys, I'm unable to play EU3 atm because of COMPLETE COMPUTER MELTDOWN. For this reason I am unable to claim my turn at this point. I'm PMing fofa2000 as he's next in line, hoping he'll be able to play. In a few days everything will be in order and I can do my turn.
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Sorry I'll not be able to play my turn, anyone can take my place, have fun!
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Very interesting game so far, I love the read 
I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border?
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On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read  I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border?
Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up.
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