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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#1081
Jinro!! Semifinalist!!!
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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
January 19 2011 14:39 GMT
#1082
On January 19 2011 20:07 Torrentsven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 19:26 DocOwnage wrote:
I honestly have lost respect for Jinro. Last season because he was really playing a respectful macro game. But it seems he really took all that attention too seriously, and is now applying Korean cheesy style play, like he's a fat ugly gorilla dying to feed on the banana that is attention. We get it, you were never looked at as a top-end player and you have basically gotten all that credit all at once, but dont adapt your game in order to continue gaining attention, stick to what got you hear, just look at what happens to players that begin to do "whatever it takes to win".. they fade away into mediocrity.

If it took you several years to make it to the elite status youre at now, why would you jeopardize that by becoming a style of player that we know you arent.

User was warned for this post


i have to some extant agree with this, i have lost my respect for jinro. I know he proborly doesnt give a shit but that doesnt matter. I was so impressed in season 3 by jinros solid and methodical play but now he just took out a (in my opinion) a better player with crap play and then even denying his cheese in the interveiw.

But this is sc2, the better player doesnt always win unlike in sc

User was warned for this post


Holy shit what a fucking disgrace. You're glossing over the fact that Jinro actually played less of a cheesy game than idra did. Idra 6-pooled straight up. Jinro did a cute little double bunker off of 1 rax and EVEN GOT GAS FIRST. Neither player played particularly cheesy, every osl final has an 8 rax or a 4 pool thrown in there, you need to learn to look at things objectively and man the fuck up, your dude lost these guys' dude won.
White-Ra fighting!
stargu
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3 Posts
January 19 2011 14:40 GMT
#1083
I think he has a good chance against MarineKing. GoGo Jinro!
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
January 19 2011 15:02 GMT
#1084
Jinro plays 30 macro games, cheeses in one and suddenly he's the world's most feared criminal. Idra, the guy who never cheeses, goes 6 pool, fails, and nobody says a word. I wonder if it would have been considered "genius play" if it worked. Funny little world.

Either way, congrats for another ro4 Jinro! I really wanna see you and Nestea in the finals. Hwaiting!
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FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
January 19 2011 15:03 GMT
#1085
I'm so hoping for Jinro being one of the first (or even the first?) foreigner winning a major korean Tournament. Jinro fighting !
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 15:06:58
January 19 2011 15:06 GMT
#1086
Honestly everyone hating on Jinro, please hate on Blizzard/maps instead. Granted a lot of people are mad that he used whatever tactic on whatever map, but that's not necessarily because he's a "cheesy" player. Look at JD during last OSL...maps were overall bad for zerg, and you saw him 4pool TWICE.

EDIT: Furthermore, on the map that WAS zerg favored, Flash FIVE RAXED. So yeah.

Jinro, you did a good job regardless of whether I liked the outcome...good luck vs. MarineKingPrime. You're going to need it (who wouldn't?)
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
January 19 2011 15:06 GMT
#1087
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
January 19 2011 15:07 GMT
#1088
The interview isn't up on GomCam, while MarineKing's is
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
January 19 2011 15:09 GMT
#1089
On January 19 2011 23:39 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:07 Torrentsven wrote:
On January 19 2011 19:26 DocOwnage wrote:
I honestly have lost respect for Jinro. Last season because he was really playing a respectful macro game. But it seems he really took all that attention too seriously, and is now applying Korean cheesy style play, like he's a fat ugly gorilla dying to feed on the banana that is attention. We get it, you were never looked at as a top-end player and you have basically gotten all that credit all at once, but dont adapt your game in order to continue gaining attention, stick to what got you hear, just look at what happens to players that begin to do "whatever it takes to win".. they fade away into mediocrity.

If it took you several years to make it to the elite status youre at now, why would you jeopardize that by becoming a style of player that we know you arent.

User was warned for this post


i have to some extant agree with this, i have lost my respect for jinro. I know he proborly doesnt give a shit but that doesnt matter. I was so impressed in season 3 by jinros solid and methodical play but now he just took out a (in my opinion) a better player with crap play and then even denying his cheese in the interveiw.

But this is sc2, the better player doesnt always win unlike in sc

User was warned for this post


Holy shit what a fucking disgrace. You're glossing over the fact that Jinro actually played less of a cheesy game than idra did. Idra 6-pooled straight up. Jinro did a cute little double bunker off of 1 rax and EVEN GOT GAS FIRST. Neither player played particularly cheesy, every osl final has an 8 rax or a 4 pool thrown in there, you need to learn to look at things objectively and man the fuck up, your dude lost these guys' dude won.


And... if you are going to talk in such general terms (specially when talking bad about someone) back it up better. If you look at the statistics this season (gsl 4) jinro is still playing on avg longer games than the large majority (from liquipedia --> Jinro 6 games 18:50 avg length <-- needs updating ). I'll give you an anecdotal argument as well. His game vs OGSensanre in round of 32 was probably the longest game this season and defiantly one of the most awesomessss.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
January 19 2011 15:16 GMT
#1090
On January 20 2011 00:06 Robstickle wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiBlAN9faMw&feature=sub


Wow, this is awesome :D
ehh`?
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
January 19 2011 15:16 GMT
#1091
On January 19 2011 22:20 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:56 Husnan wrote:
I didn't see the games yet of the Jinro v IdrA series, woke up too late but from what I understand, Jinro heard Korean commentators go wild very early in the game and guessed IdrA had done a 6-pool...

I'm not going to say that this is cheating, I'm even gonna go as far as saying it was very honest of Jinro to admit it in his interview (once again, I haven't seen it, but I infered it from what I read here on TL), but I have a question for you, Jinro (hopefully, you're reading this) : couldn't (or shouldn't) you have paused the game there and told IdrA you knew he was 6-pooling, when you really shouldn't have known yet?

It seemed to me like the most honest thing to do.

Anyway, once again, I don't mean to be disrespectful to Jinro, I was hoping IdrA would win because I play Zerg and IdrA is like my role model, but regardless of what happened in that game, Jinro certainly deserves his spot in the final 4 and I hope he goes even further.

I'm really asking this in a non-malicious mindset because I think it would've set a great example of fairplay and sportsmanship, but then again, I can only imagine what goes through the head of champions such as GSL top Code-S players at a moment like this, and I'm not judging Jinro badly based on what happened. If anything, his honesty during the interview gives him more credit in my eyes than he already had (and that says something).

Oh, and I'm going to edit this post because ....

Good luck in the finals Jinro, I know you're gonna show MKP who's the boss! Just remember to siege your tanks, unlike Nada


So what if he had paused the game and it turned out the commentators where reacting to something different? Jinro didn't hear them say he was 6 pooling, only a "Oooooh" kind of sound. Should they continue the game? Then he would know he wasn't 6 pooling. Restart the game anyway?


The point is, and that's what I understood from what I read : you know when a 6-pool is happening almost as soon as the game starts (the zerg isn't making any drones), and there's no way they could've been yelling about anything else this early in the game, so it's pretty obvious what is going on. Or am I way off here?
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 15:25:10
January 19 2011 15:17 GMT
#1092
On January 19 2011 19:22 Torrentsven wrote:
was the mule meant as a diss?

that would just be stupid why would you even do that

No, I was trying to scan the tumor but I hit the wrong hotkey - I was pretty worried actually because I didnt think the game was over yet.

On January 19 2011 20:56 Husnan wrote:
I didn't see the games yet of the Jinro v IdrA series, woke up too late but from what I understand, Jinro heard Korean commentators go wild very early in the game and guessed IdrA had done a 6-pool...

I'm not going to say that this is cheating, I'm even gonna go as far as saying it was very honest of Jinro to admit it in his interview (once again, I haven't seen it, but I infered it from what I read here on TL), but I have a question for you, Jinro (hopefully, you're reading this) : couldn't (or shouldn't) you have paused the game there and told IdrA you knew he was 6-pooling, when you really shouldn't have known yet?

It seemed to me like the most honest thing to do.

Anyway, once again, I don't mean to be disrespectful to Jinro, I was hoping IdrA would win because I play Zerg and IdrA is like my role model, but regardless of what happened in that game, Jinro certainly deserves his spot in the final 4 and I hope he goes even further.

I'm really asking this in a non-malicious mindset because I think it would've set a great example of fairplay and sportsmanship, but then again, I can only imagine what goes through the head of champions such as GSL top Code-S players at a moment like this, and I'm not judging Jinro badly based on what happened. If anything, his honesty during the interview gives him more credit in my eyes than he already had (and that says something).

Oh, and I'm going to edit this post because ....

Good luck in the finals Jinro, I know you're gonna show MKP who's the boss! Just remember to siege your tanks, unlike Nada

I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).

Btw, I can tell you that if IdrA hadnt gotten bunkered on Metal I WOULD have cheesed the fuckign shit out of him and I dont care what anyone thinks about it, because on 2/3 positions on that map, I think cheese is the best option for terran to win. Just like what IdrA thought on Jungle Basin, which is a fucking impossible map for zerg in a normal game.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Yasuchika
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 15:26:02
January 19 2011 15:25 GMT
#1093
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).


Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?
Never hit the turbo bass.
deroth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
January 19 2011 15:26 GMT
#1094
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

No, I was trying to scan the tumor but I hit the wrong hotkey - I was pretty worried actually because I didnt think the game was over yet.



That's good to know.

And major grats on your win today, your defense in game 4 was pretty epic.
deroth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
January 19 2011 15:29 GMT
#1095
On January 20 2011 00:25 Yasuchika wrote:
Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?


Why would he be? It's not like he actually benefited from it in any way by starting up a bunker preemptively, by the time idra's units got in his base he was at a major disadvantage imo. The game was won fair and square.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 19 2011 15:31 GMT
#1096
On January 20 2011 00:25 Yasuchika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).


Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?

Considering scouting is actually worse vs 6 pool than not scouting if you dont see the 6 pool on the way there, I dont see why I should.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
January 19 2011 15:31 GMT
#1097
On January 20 2011 00:25 Yasuchika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).


Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?


Don't be ridiculous. He hadn't even walled off when the lings arrived at his base. The game would have been identical either away, early scout or not. Nice job Jinro, train well.
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
January 19 2011 15:32 GMT
#1098
On January 20 2011 00:25 Yasuchika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).


Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?


you have got to be joking.

Ofcourse it wont be replayed. there was no vivisible change besides the early scout which didnt change anything he did because he missed the lings. seriously can we drop the whole omg jinro is cheating thing. Just congratulate him and move on.

Goodluck in the round of 4 hope you win it
Yasuchika
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 15:34:37
January 19 2011 15:34 GMT
#1099
On January 20 2011 00:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 00:25 Yasuchika wrote:
On January 20 2011 00:17 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I didnt KNOW he was 6 pooling, in one of the other games I also heard the commentators say something but couple the fact that this is a super imba map with what I heard, and I decided to scout (and completley miss his lings).


Any news on whether or not you'll be required to replay the match?

Considering scouting is actually worse vs 6 pool than not scouting if you dont see the 6 pool on the way there, I dont see why I should.


Thanks for the answer, Jinro.

I just asked because of the statement GOM support made, I'm certainly not hoping for a rematch.

Never hit the turbo bass.
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
January 19 2011 15:34 GMT
#1100
I'm pretty sure that was a concerned question, he's not saying he wants a rematch or anything, lol.
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