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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 16:56 GMT
#1041
My vote is sticking on zealos unless he comes up with a very good reason for his check, or a breadcrumb of his check (not role since that is so much easier to fake) within a while since I need to go and sleep and cannot be around at the deadline.

Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:00 GMT
#1042
Ok, give me 2 secs to explain my reasoning.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:11 GMT
#1043
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.

When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.

Take from this what you will.
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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:15 GMT
#1044
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.

On May 23 2012 23:18 Zealos wrote:
Could I just point out how "Active" Marvel has been all game, without making any real cases himself. He seems very good at pointing out problems, asking questions and what not, but I want to know who you want to kill and why
Not to mention from the very start he distances himself from Acro, instead of trying to make himself look more innocent:
Show nested quote +
Firstly I will not be held responsible for Acro's posting, deal with it.

I understand the reasoning, but it seems like a free copout for acro's scummy posting. Not to mention he makes a lot of small posts with very little use for them other than to seem active.
Show nested quote +
Holy moly I have two votes

Show nested quote +
You're right, I don't, Zealos unvoted me.

Show nested quote +
no u

My point is that townies should in general strive to be as lucid and clear as possible. Don't give a flying two hoots what you think, if Mattchew just talks in plain text, it will achieve this better than speaking in MTG speak or whatever.

Frankly I'm bored with the sheer quantity of townies who seem to not want to do this. Hence the vote.
(ironic)

The point is, useful townies don't use the thread as a place to have a conversation, they use it to root out scum.
So Marvellosity, you've got 4 bullets in your gun, who dies and why?


But you didnt think him town.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:16 GMT
#1045
Correct, not at that point. 24 hours night. Marvel is one of the clearest town reads in the game.
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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:17 GMT
#1046
Wait what you posted that shit during the night?

What did he do in that extremely short timespan that convinced you he wasnt worth a check?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 25 2012 17:18 GMT
#1047
fuck this im not gonna be the one to lynch a claimed DT again

##unvote
##vote hiropro
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
May 25 2012 17:18 GMT
#1048
On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote:
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.

When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.

Take from this what you will.


I am willing to bet on you being right.

##Unvote wherebugsgo
##Vote Hiro Pro
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:19 GMT
#1049
So the two of you dont find this claim extremely convenient and not a little suspect at all?
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:20 GMT
#1050
On May 26 2012 02:17 zelblade wrote:
Wait what you posted that shit during the night?

What did he do in that extremely short timespan that convinced you he wasnt worth a check?

Pretty much from when he responded to the case, hence why I didn't follow it up ^^
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:22 GMT
#1051
On May 26 2012 02:19 zelblade wrote:
So the two of you dont find this claim extremely convenient and not a little suspect at all?

I initially started on Hiro right at the start of the day. I wasn't even under *that* much pressure at the time. Whatever happens, we'll get one scum today or tomorrow, depending on when we lynch Hiro, let's just keep the DT alive in the meantime shall we?
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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
May 25 2012 17:24 GMT
#1052
On May 26 2012 02:19 zelblade wrote:
So the two of you dont find this claim extremely convenient and not a little suspect at all?


It might be a scumtrick, but it is more likely that it is a real DT check. Ofcourse there is the chance that it is a framed check or a miller check, and then town is in big shit because we will kill Hiro, who then won't be scum, and Zealos who then is a real DT. But we should at least not kill Zealos this day.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:28 GMT
#1053
Man times like this are when I hate timezones.

Give me a while to read hiro's filter and n1 to come to a decision
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2012 17:36 GMT
#1054
Gogo timely-claim!!

##Unvote Zealos
##Vote HiroPro
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:37 GMT
#1055
Man I dont see how you think marv is scummy, than that read suddenly changes to townie enough to not warrant a check just because he decided to attack you. You yourself say its a weak case, and mafia oftentime make terrible cases to mislynch townies, so why the hell did that convince you that he was somehow town?

Your case almost seemed reasonable apart from the fact your summary does nothing to point me as mafia, instead, it just tries to find flaws in my case against you.


I'll just put this here. Posted before marv's last post of the night, and from it one can infer that he still thinks marv is suspicious.

I dont buy this claim. My vote is sticking on him.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:38 GMT
#1056
Apparently everyone decides to instantly trust DT-checks, giving each and every scum a free ML just by claiming DT.

Whatever im going to bed.

Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 25 2012 17:40 GMT
#1057
On May 26 2012 02:37 zelblade wrote:
Man I dont see how you think marv is scummy, than that read suddenly changes to townie enough to not warrant a check just because he decided to attack you. You yourself say its a weak case, and mafia oftentime make terrible cases to mislynch townies, so why the hell did that convince you that he was somehow town?

Show nested quote +
Your case almost seemed reasonable apart from the fact your summary does nothing to point me as mafia, instead, it just tries to find flaws in my case against you.


I'll just put this here. Posted before marv's last post of the night, and from it one can infer that he still thinks marv is suspicious.

I dont buy this claim. My vote is sticking on him.

That post isn't relevant to me checking him. It's about the fact that his "case" didn't make me out as mafia, more him as town.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 25 2012 17:41 GMT
#1058
You do realize he's outting himself as scum if he's wrong? It's far from a free mislynch
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2012 17:42 GMT
#1059
On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote:
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.

When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.

Take from this what you will.


Fuck guys, come on, think about this a little.

Firstly, to the bold: you know when zelblade started getting suspicious to a lot of people? The first day of the 2nd Day cycle. Why? because during the Night he said he would provide reads the next day (i.e. the first day of Day 2). zelblade at the time of Night 1 was neither that lurky nor that suspicious to anyone.

Further to this, why on earth would Zealos expect him to be vigged?

There were several loud claims for vig shots, most notably: me - I wanted NT shot. wherebugsgo - he wanted Zealos and Tunkeg shot. there was also mention of Katina being vigged I believe.

Where in all this does Zealos come to the conclusion taht zelblade is likely to be vig shotted? IT MAKES NO SENSE.

This is Mafia LI mark 2, can't you guys see that?

Think about the timings of when zelblade got suspicious, think who Zealos apparently found suspicious, who Zealos made no mention of at all (seriously, his reason for checking Hiro is superweak - he didn't question me on Moudly?). zelblade was at no risk of being vig shotted.

This claim is as false as they come.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 17:42 GMT
#1060
Dude hes getting lynched anyway, look at the votes. Its extremely unlikely that there would be a switch at the point before the claim.

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