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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 23:19 GMT
#821
What's with all this "I'll get checked if you do xxx and xxx and xxx for me first" bullshit.

If we want to enforce this check, then we lynch anyone who refuses to do it. Remember that people we want checked are people that we probably want lynched too.
wat
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 23:23 GMT
#822
On July 26 2011 08:19 Curu wrote:
What's with all this "I'll get checked if you do xxx and xxx and xxx for me first" bullshit.

If we want to enforce this check, then we lynch anyone who refuses to do it. Remember that people we want checked are people that we probably want lynched too.


I completely agree with you. Kita is asking us to completely give up the democracy of voting and let a single player decide who to lynch.

19 heads are better than 1

What I think a big problem will be is getting supersoft and his check target to be online at the same time
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 25 2011 23:24 GMT
#823
On July 26 2011 08:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 08:14 Foolishness wrote:
Nooooo check Wiggles the serial (Z)Killer!!!


The OP says no posts restrictions are allowed in roles. Either
1) An exception to the rules was made for your role
2) You've created your own post restriction.

If its the first, claim that you do indeed have a post restriction and if that is false, your role creator can counter claim that you are lying. If its the second, you are distracting town. Who cares what you are saying when you're posts are full of progamer names! lolz

Your skill of reading between the lines (and the thread for that matter) is pretty (T)Bogus
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 25 2011 23:27 GMT
#824
On July 26 2011 08:23 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 08:19 Curu wrote:
What's with all this "I'll get checked if you do xxx and xxx and xxx for me first" bullshit.

If we want to enforce this check, then we lynch anyone who refuses to do it. Remember that people we want checked are people that we probably want lynched too.


I completely agree with you. Kita is asking us to completely give up the democracy of voting and let a single player decide who to lynch


That's not the point though. When I pass the check then I would be practically confirmed town, unless there are multiple people lying about his role or I have a godfather type role, which my role creator can confirm is not true. On day one, I would much rather have a confirmed town decide my fate than a wishy-washy town filled with scum and third party agendas. In truth, nobody is going to go with it so I probably shouldn't have brought it up. I'll post who I want lynched or checked later on.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 25 2011 23:29 GMT
#825
Nooooo. let's not give BC more wood to burn.

You are not confirmed townie. And just because you are confirmed townie does not give you super accurate scum reads.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 25 2011 23:30 GMT
#826
On July 26 2011 08:24 Foolishness wrote:
Your skill of reading between the lines (and the thread for that matter) is pretty (T)Bogus


Humor me and tell me the reasoning anyways?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 25 2011 23:35 GMT
#827
On July 26 2011 08:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 08:24 Foolishness wrote:
Your skill of reading between the lines (and the thread for that matter) is pretty (T)Bogus


Humor me and tell me the reasoning anyways?


On July 26 2011 05:45 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 05:42 sandroba wrote:
It is stated in the OP that post restrictions are not allowed. Does that rule stand?


Some people may have added some minor ones, and I may have let them slide. Maybe.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 25 2011 23:37 GMT
#828
On July 18 2011 20:26 deconduo wrote:
Penalties:

In additon to picking a role for the person given you can send in a penalty as well. You will not know who you are picking the penalty for. Penalties are hidden and inactive initially and will activiate under (Z)Special circumstances through out the game. For example, if you reveal who you picked your role for or details about said role your penalty will activate. There are other ways to activate it as well.

geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#829
On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote:
I have slammed my head against my desk so many times reading the thread at the stupidity of players that I'm going to die of blood loss at this rate. I don't want that.


On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote:
We use the (Z)Check on someone like Wiggles, and even if it turns up mafia, we still kill Kitaman


Oh god, Foolishness has suffered severe head trauma. Did anyone happen to invent a brain surgeon?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 26 2011 00:55 GMT
#830
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#831
BC is suspicious, but not just for trying to avoid an alignment check. This post I found particularly scummy:


On July 25 2011 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
What, the fuck is this shit? Multiple day 1 claims? people already lying. Day vig already shooting? The fuck is this shit. Purely for knowing better, and combination of a townie role designed around killing another player Jackal is now up for lynch.

Before anyone one goes "lets slow down here" He outright lied about his role, and we know based on a role flip that ON had a statement saying he was out to kill harry potter. As such the two should be opposite alignment, or at the very least, HP third party. As such he dies. We do not keep liars around, we do not keep people around who are on a quest to find bullshit items.

Also whoever made my role, go die in a fire.

##vote jackal58



The above post was extremely uninformed and looked like it was trying to start a bandwagon. That, in addition to the reasons I stated earlier in this post, I think that BC is the best lynch.

##Vote: Bloodyc0bbler
Enjoy your day.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 26 2011 01:17 GMT
#832
I am going to vote for the person who is pushing mafia objectives the hardest, BC.

BC has just finished arguing with half the town for literally 10+ pages straight about whether people should trust SS's alignment checks. What exactly was accomplished during this entire argument? Was any scum hunting done? No. Was anyone's opinion about SS changed? No. Instead the thread is now filled with 10 pages full of a worthless argument. The argument 100% benefited the mafia.

I don't think anyone would argue BC is one of the best players to play on TL. So ask yourself which is more likely one of TL's best players decides to be stubborn and have a worthless argument that spams and prevents any scum hunting from being done for 10 pages as town or as mafia?

And just to summarize the things BC has done so far this game

A) Done 0 actual analysis of anyone the entire game, instead pushes for Jackal to be lynched based only on flavor from his role claim.

B) Single handedly derails and spams the thread preventing any scum hunting from being done.

C) Pushed hard for our dt, that killed a scum, to not use his checks. We obviously shouldn't blindly follow the checks but there is very little downside to at least having him check people. Even if we don't act on them, it can serve as an amazing breadcrumb. If supersoft dies and flips town we would know all his checks were true. Incredibly anti town to not at the very least have SS use his checks.

##vote BloodyC0bbler


As for who SS should check, BC should 100% not be checked. If he is mafia he is 99% the GF. So the next best candidate for a check is kita.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2011 01:22 GMT
#833
On July 26 2011 09:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.


You are getting checked. I agree with mig on that. answer me 2 times pls or you will probably hang tomorrow.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 26 2011 01:23 GMT
#834
On July 26 2011 10:22 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.


You are getting checked. I agree with mig on that. answer me 2 times pls or you will probably hang tomorrow.


Yawn.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:24 GMT
#835
Supersoft killed a mafia day 1. This is the same terrible reasoning that got palmar lynched. Let's think for a second.

Tackster is copycat and gets supersoft's role. Tackster shoots YM, if they were both scum supersoft could have just claimed the shot right? Why would Supersoft kill his scumbuddy? SS is not scum as far as im concerned.

He's asked bc to quote him so he can alignment check and BC has refused, arguing SS is untrustworthy, when SS killed a mafia day 1. SS telling us BC is scum would get BC lynched but if BC is town we would just kill SS, so that wouldn't happen. The only reason I can think BC is refusing the alignment check is because he is afraid of what he will come up as...

##Vote BC
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:25 GMT
#836
No SS check BC you asked him to quote you and he ignored it. Please check BC. BC accept the check please. BC is far more dangerous than kita and its much better to know his alignment then kita's day 1.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#837
Kita is allowing himself to be checked, BC ignored SS's request to check him. SS dont check kita.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2011 01:28 GMT
#838
On July 26 2011 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:22 supersoft wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.


You are getting checked. I agree with mig on that. answer me 2 times pls or you will probably hang tomorrow.


Yawn.


sup
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#839
Don't suppose red convinced you with such a compelling argument?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#840
On July 26 2011 10:26 redFF wrote:
Kita is allowing himself to be checked, BC ignored SS's request to check him. SS dont check kita.


no, BC gets instant lynched.

##vote BC
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