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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
March 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#61
Defending him is baseless, accusing him has much basis. You dont get to 5th in the world just because you felt like laddering that day.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
March 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#62
what kind of idiot would register their id on a hacking website lol
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 11 2011 00:48 GMT
#63
On March 11 2011 05:10 Holcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 05:03 IPA wrote:
Hmmm...seems like there is some controversy here? Or is this baseless?



i doubt its baseless if he doesnt like playing for money


You're right, there aren't any people in the world that do things for intrinsic reasons. Everything has to have an extrinsic backing...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
March 11 2011 00:54 GMT
#64
On March 11 2011 09:28 ProTech wrote:
iGware is NOT David Zhu ( at least in the 1v1 ladder ) the real story here is that iGware shares his account to Sorcery ( his main ally ) This is why back whenever that big tournament was in LA they could not attend the LAN because Josh Price could not show up on David Zhu's account, they would be disqualified.


i don't understand this part does "josh price" not have his own account?
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
March 11 2011 01:04 GMT
#65
If igware is related to sorcery, then I have no doubt he's related to some sort of hacking sorcery (josh) was an infamous hacker back in nadota. Although his fans argued he was skilled with or without mh, his legacy was tarnished forever
Jar Jar Binks
PinkPrincess
Profile Joined July 2010
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 01:19:37
March 11 2011 01:11 GMT
#66
On March 11 2011 09:54 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 09:28 ProTech wrote:
iGware is NOT David Zhu ( at least in the 1v1 ladder ) the real story here is that iGware shares his account to Sorcery ( his main ally ) This is why back whenever that big tournament was in LA they could not attend the LAN because Josh Price could not show up on David Zhu's account, they would be disqualified.


i don't understand this part does "josh price" not have his own account?

As indirectly mentioned by Protech, Sorcery is Josh.

On March 11 2011 09:38 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 05:13 PinkPrincess wrote:
On March 11 2011 05:00 Skyze wrote:
On March 11 2011 04:54 PowerDes wrote:
Watch this replay and what he does with his dropship to avoid the hellion seeing it, without seeing the hellion itself: http://replayfu.com/r/MZKTDm

His timing with the scv to block the landing, and sending his entire army to scout an expo and his account on a hacking site: www.d3scene.com/forum/members/igware.html The registering date on the site actually corresponds the time that igware started to mass solo games.

The attempts to hide the maphacking is kind of funny though. namhcir outplayed him though, attacking from 2 angles to get the blue flame drop in.


There are actually MORE replays, from his 2v2 team with Sorcery.. although I was under the impression it was Sorcery who was the one hacking (as he's had replays that were sketchy even since October)

afew days ago, Protech was spamming in channels, his replays vs Sorcery/igware that he said was pretty obvious... but I cant seem to find them =[


There have been calls of Sorcery hacking for a long time. I haven't seen anything that actually proves it (Protech being a poor loser doesn't prove it, and we've dropped games against Protech in 2v2s against strats that we played totally wrong against - I find it hard to believe if he were hacking he would've played the way he did in some of those games), or else I'd stop being his ally personally.

On March 11 2011 04:54 PowerDes wrote:
Watch this replay and what he does with his dropship to avoid the hellion seeing it, without seeing the hellion itself: http://replayfu.com/r/MZKTDm

His timing with the scv to block the landing, and sending his entire army to scout an expo and his account on a hacking site: www.d3scene.com/forum/members/igware.html The registering date on the site actually corresponds the time that igware started to mass solo games.

The attempts to hide the maphacking is kind of funny though. namhcir outplayed him though, attacking from 2 angles to get the blue flame drop in.

I can't watch the replay from work, so I'll watch it later. The problem with calling hack on things like you mentioned is that they are all things that can happen by chance.

Doesn't Blizzard catch and ban hackers? It seems that using a hack and getting caught with it would be kind of dumb, right? I'll ask him later when I see him about why he's registered on that hack site though O_O.

On March 11 2011 05:10 Holcan wrote:
On March 11 2011 05:03 IPA wrote:
Hmmm...seems like there is some controversy here? Or is this baseless?



i doubt its baseless if he doesnt like playing for money

What does not playing for money have to do with it? If anything, playing for money is a powerful motivator to start cheating - see all the cheaters in previous TSLs.



You're an idiot. I had both of those clown on friends list I know the story. 1#) Doesnt like playing for money? Why in the fuck would you not like playing for money if you're top 5 in the world? That's like wiping my ass before I shit, it makes no sense.

Great, I have them on my list and talk to/play with them regularly too...
He says he has won several hundred dollars from tournaments so far (I don't have links to the tournaments and he's unavailable right now).
And for what it's worth, being #3 on the ladder or something doesn't mean you're #3 in the world from a skill perspective. I don't think anyone is seriously claiming MYMSase is #1 SC2 player in the world.


2#) Almost every replay that I have playing against igware / sorcery they always do extremely fishy shit. They are the ONLY people that I accuse of cheating. looking through the fow / mad hard countering with out scouting, etc etc.

And to answer your question about losing to shit that's obvious, don't you think if you were hacking you would want to cover it up from time to time? Like that game vs namchir, blindly going raven, moving his dropship to avoid being seen by the hellion, sending whole army to bottom bases.

I'm pretty sure he would not 'deliberately lose' to you and go 2 - 3 vs you and tehredbandit in an evening the way he did earlier this week.

With regards to them being the only people you accuse of cheating - how many teams do you have a losing record versus? Probably not many other teams, either. To me a lot of your hack accusations spring from the fact that you (generally) lose out overall to them.


The bottom line is, he has the production tab hack, so he doesn't need to look into the FoW, this means that if he is not paying attention to the map he isn't always going to notice what's going on. that's why he can hard counter everything, and rape everybody. Skills+Hacks in this game is a whole different story than BW.

This kind of reminds me of when TT1 got caught hacking on icCup

Except nobody has caught anyone - there has been a single replay posted in this topic, which a neutral party (Rabbitmaster) who knows nobody involved (so far as I'm aware) said wasn't at all suspicious. The only other 'evidence' I see here is you coming in and posting how there's no doubt and he 100% hacks, but without anything to support your statements.


With regards to the hacking site, he claims he did not create that account but that someone else did. All I have on that is his word - without getting the hacking site itself to reveal what the email associated with the account is (which I doubt they'd do, plus he could possibly change it), I doubt we can truly know who did it.
Grumpity grump
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
March 11 2011 01:12 GMT
#67
Internet detectives at their worst. I don't know that player and i don't really care , but with-hunts are quite distasteful. Jesus, it seems that winning a game on the ladder with a cheesy all-in is basis enough to start accusations of hacking.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 11 2011 01:17 GMT
#68
On March 11 2011 04:07 LesPhoques wrote:
CombatEx is not a solid player... all he does is cannon rush

Agreed. When I saw that in the OP I honestly thought that it was a joke post.

And sorry, OP, I unfortunately don't know of the guy at all. It seems kind of suspicious for someone to just pop up that fast, though. Couldn't say for sure without some reference as to the number of games played and such, though.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
4Kings
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States40 Posts
March 11 2011 01:19 GMT
#69
On March 11 2011 10:12 legaton wrote:
Internet detectives at their worst. I don't know that player and i don't really care , but with-hunts are quite distasteful. Jesus, it seems that winning a game on the ladder with a cheesy all-in is basis enough to start accusations of hacking.


Agree 100%. Was the same thing with PiQLiQ. Maybe cheesy, maybe not world class, but he's still better than 99.9999% of all players, and shouldn't be accused of hacking unless there's something tangible to back it up.
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SkCom
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 01:24:59
March 11 2011 01:23 GMT
#70
To the guy claiming the target is hacking (ProTech ):

Bring some proof instead of making worthless posts about hacking. You sound like you have a personal problem with the guy. It`d be nice to catch him if indeed he is a hacker, but without any links, your posts are worse than a troll. In fact, I consider accusations without proof the most solid form of trolling.

So, do the TL community a favor and 1) stop calling people names 2) do some research then come back here.

I`m surprised no mods have taken care of this already.
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
March 11 2011 01:25 GMT
#71
He just cheeses every game..
ucbEntilZha
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
March 11 2011 01:25 GMT
#72
I am posting to speak to the various rumors about iGware's involvement with UCBerkeley CSL. I am speaking as the second in command for our team, RandomRice being our lead.

Here is the statement RandomRice made following the anncement that changed the Berkeley results.

"Here is my official statement to this entire affair:

At the conclusion of our match vs UC Davis, Igware and DxT approached
me saying that they are interested in joining and helping out our
team. Both of them used their Cal emails so I allowed them to
register for the team.

The following 2 weeks, our standard A team was unavailable for our
matches so I was scrambling to find players for our line-ups. I
fielded them with the intent of only using them as temporary alternate
players. However, igware impressed me with his play and massive spike
in ladder rating so I started using him as a regular for our line-ups.

Unfortunately, I just recently found out they were alum. Alumni are
prohibited from competing in the league. At that point, however, we
only 4 matches until the conclusion of the season. My plan was to let
it slide until playoffs, but disallow them from competing in the
playoffs.

However, CSL has found out the identity of Igware and DxT and the fact
that they are alumni. They contacted me and I admitted to them that I
fielded them for two matches despite knowing they were alum. They
overturned the games that Igware/DxT had won but otherwise did not
punish UC Berkeley.

I apologize to everyone for this entire affair: I had the choice to
cut out losses and simply let the first few Igware/Dxt matches slide
and stop fielding them as it was against the rules.... yet I made the
wrong choice."

Few of us if anyone besides Alvin have met iGware as he elected not to show up to our LAN event but instead play from another remote location.
UC Berkeley CSL | http://www.cstarleague.com/league/teams/76 | follow us at justin.tv/ucberkeleycsl
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 11 2011 01:26 GMT
#73
This reminds me of the who is iCafe.moto threads of old.
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