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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
December 06 2009 23:36 GMT
#61
On December 07 2009 04:38 skronch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 22:09 sushiman wrote:
Impressive. I do however think that Reach's 100 wins was far more epic, considering the majority of his games were played when PL wasn't on 4-5 times a week. :q
Will be many players to break 100 wins the coming year most probably, due to the format.

even still, flash won it in fewer games played, so the fact that PL wasn't on 4-5 times a week is irrelevant

It IS relevant. If you're on a streak, you can rack up a lot more wins in the new format than you could previously, when there was much more time between games. Flash would be able to get 2-3 times the amount of wins in the same time Reach would when he got most of his wins due to the format. If you'd count WL (which I don't know if they do or not), it would be even easier to rack up even more wins.
It would've been damn near impossible to have achieved Flash's ratio of wins/losses back when Reach got the majority of his wins, since you'd have to be consistent for 2-3 times the amount of time.

Flash's win/loss-ratio is extremely impressive, but he largely owes it to the current format, which has seen a lot of currently good players gaining many many wins. Just look at Calm, having more PL wins than Nal_Ra and Boxer combined (26 of his 91 PL wins in 2009 alone) despite them being around for about 6 years longer.
1000 at least.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 06 2009 23:43 GMT
#62
STORK GOGOGO! JUST 5 MORE AND YOU'RE AT THE TOP WITH THESE BALLERS!

But dam flash, what a sexy beast
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 06 2009 23:44 GMT
#63
On December 07 2009 08:36 sushiman wrote:If you'd count WL (which I don't know if they do or not), it would be even easier to rack up even more wins.
Yes, they counts WL games too. Only Play-Off games are excluded.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
December 06 2009 23:50 GMT
#64
On December 07 2009 04:57 Abyzou wrote:
The reason he wins so much is that he's so mechanical, uses the same builds over and over simply because they're the safest and win the most.

He's also boring to watch because he often sits in his base, deflects attempts at making the game interesting, then rolls over the other player with a huge ball of units.

Yeah, I've always disliked Flash alot. Sure he's good and all, but he's not a fun or innovative player. He just uses the strategies that win the most, he admitted that himself. And yes, I realize every player does this, but Flash is so extreme in this aspect. And I think that's really cheap.


if you ever become a progamer and only play to lose, i'll start taking your post seriously.
( ・´ー・`)
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
December 06 2009 23:58 GMT
#65
It's about time Flash! Pity it was against Savior though...

Congrats nonetheless ~
this is my quote.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
December 07 2009 00:25 GMT
#66
Now we have a thread to bump every time Flash wins!
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Llama
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom69 Posts
December 07 2009 00:48 GMT
#67
On December 07 2009 05:54 Ver wrote:
What now?

Post your Flash spiel again! I can't get enough of it!
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 07 2009 01:20 GMT
#68
I don't know where this 'Terran is the easiest race to be consistent with' nonsense is coming from.

Flash is consistent. Terran players in general are not. How about the 2nd best Terran player, Fantasy? He wouldn't just drop games to random Zergs below his skill level, right? I mean, he's Terran, and Terran always win against weaker players.

The reason Flash is so consistent is because of his amazing game sense. Flash explained it when he was asked what the difference between his style and Fantasy's is.

Players like Fantasy go into a game with a bunch of plans. If my opponent does X, respond with Y. They might go in ready to deal with 10 or 20 different situations. But if something happens that isn't in any of those plans, they fall apart.

Flash goes into a game with one general strategy, and then just plays it by ear and adapts on the fly according to what his opponent does. It's a game sense that can't be duplicated just by studying him.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 07 2009 01:36 GMT
#69
On December 07 2009 04:57 Abyzou wrote:
The reason he wins so much is that he's so mechanical, uses the same builds over and over simply because they're the safest and win the most.

He's also boring to watch because he often sits in his base, deflects attempts at making the game interesting, then rolls over the other player with a huge ball of units.

Yeah, I've always disliked Flash alot. Sure he's good and all, but he's not a fun or innovative player. He just uses the strategies that win the most, he admitted that himself. And yes, I realize every player does this, but Flash is so extreme in this aspect. And I think that's really cheap.

Hmm, the main leader of Terran trends isn't innovative, hmm.

Hmm.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 01:46:59
December 07 2009 01:45 GMT
#70
I want to see a Jaedong vs Flash league finals. Jaedong vs Bisu no longer appeals to me.

Edit: That is, supposing that Flash won't 14 cc and lose to two hatch mutas 3 times in a row.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
December 10 2009 07:41 GMT
#71
On December 07 2009 04:57 Abyzou wrote:
The reason he wins so much is that he's so mechanical, uses the same builds over and over simply because they're the safest and win the most.

He's also boring to watch because he often sits in his base, deflects attempts at making the game interesting, then rolls over the other player with a huge ball of units.

Yeah, I've always disliked Flash alot. Sure he's good and all, but he's not a fun or innovative player. He just uses the strategies that win the most, he admitted that himself. And yes, I realize every player does this, but Flash is so extreme in this aspect. And I think that's really cheap.

Can you link me the interview or chatlogs where flash has said that hes not an innovative player? iirc he said hes going to innovate tvp again lol
And because flash wins the most hes the most 'extreme' in this aspect?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 10 2009 07:48 GMT
#72
On December 07 2009 03:46 danl9rm wrote:
what i mean is.. is that if you're good as terran, it's hard for people of a lower level than you to beat you. if you're good with zerg, well, still some no name has a chance.
all you needed was something about protoss 1a2a3a and that post would have been complete
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 10 2009 08:03 GMT
#73
On December 07 2009 04:57 Abyzou wrote:
The reason he wins so much is that he's so mechanical, uses the same builds over and over simply because they're the safest and win the most.

He's also boring to watch because he often sits in his base, deflects attempts at making the game interesting, then rolls over the other player with a huge ball of units.


Yeah, I've always disliked Flash alot. Sure he's good and all, but he's not a fun or innovative player. He just uses the strategies that win the most, he admitted that himself. And yes, I realize every player does this, but Flash is so extreme in this aspect. And I think that's really cheap.


This post itself clearly shows that you have no idea how terran works or how flash plays

If you're going to hate on flash, atleast try to watch what he actually does instead of skimming through his youtube games.

If you still can't comprehend his plays after that, then I am sorry
Instead let me recommend you some games by Leta to fulfill your feeble ADHD mind
dats racist
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 10 2009 08:08 GMT
#74
On December 10 2009 17:03 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 04:57 Abyzou wrote:
The reason he wins so much is that he's so mechanical, uses the same builds over and over simply because they're the safest and win the most.

He's also boring to watch because he often sits in his base, deflects attempts at making the game interesting, then rolls over the other player with a huge ball of units.


Yeah, I've always disliked Flash alot. Sure he's good and all, but he's not a fun or innovative player. He just uses the strategies that win the most, he admitted that himself. And yes, I realize every player does this, but Flash is so extreme in this aspect. And I think that's really cheap.


This post itself clearly shows that you have no idea how terran works or how flash plays

If you're going to hate on flash, atleast try to watch what he actually does instead of skimming through his youtube games.

If you still can't comprehend his plays after that, then I am sorry
Instead let me recommend you some games by Leta to fulfill your feeble ADHD mind


haha new nick for Leta: The ADHD Terran!
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
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