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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On December 16 2012 10:05 Risen wrote: My PM does everything but say he's town. If he's scum I'll be more surprised than I've ever been in a mafia game. erp, so you know his role? | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: The best information the town has is from the start of the game "each world will begin with 2 mafia". So far people have not taken this into high consideration As far as I know only one person came up with a plan to take advantage of this (sand) Who was coincidentally mafia's first target. Oh, and who know who was sand's biggest (only) supporter of that plan? ME. So if your going to call it a good idea to focus on that fact you should realize who supported actions which would take the biggest advantage of that fact. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: randombum? Yes, definitely mafia. Why? General avoidance to any topic of discussion. He simply has not said anything about anything the town is talking about. What has honestly been "discussed". Nearly everybody has had the same/similar opinion. There was lynching you which everybody agreed on. There was austin's list which everybody pretty much narrowed it down to the same 3 or 4 people. The only real discussion (read divided opinions involving more than 2 people) was how to use the swap mechanic and I was there. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: randombum never talked about myself or marvellosity when the two of us were having a larger penis contest. I felt it pointless to get into a penis contest when it started as A: "B is scum!" and B responses "No, A is scum!" Apparently B won that since the whole town agreed to lynch you. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: His lynch was avoided because one or two people said they thought he was innocent (I believe austin and clarity were the two, could be wrong though). You write that as if I somehow escaped getting lynched (Note: that was your lynch that was avodied) If you actually read the threads it was neither austin or clarity that supported me. The only person to throw suspicion on me was austin, and even his post was along the lines of "he's on my list and I like him LEAST" Also, there was not a single vote for me ever that day, so I don't know what I'm supposedly avoiding. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: Given that he was one of 4 choices to be lynched he was awfully quiet I don't know what you consider quiet. I responded to direct questions and posted my opinions. I wasn't nearly as vocal as austin, but that's because he has like 2/3 the posts in the thread since he's been here. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: He random voted for Palmar day 1 without any justification (read his filter if you don't believe me), hopped on the Kenpachi bandwagon, and hasn't said anything since. The vote on Palmer was random, but I don't see how that points towards an alignment on day 1. The kenpachi vote was because there was under an hour before deadline, and not enough people wanted to lynch austin to check his role. I hopped on the wagon because I was trying to help avoid a no-lynch and he was everybody's choice. And by choice he was really more like the least bad choice. Why I haven't said anything since? Its barely been 24 hours and it happened to be Friday night and Saturday afterwards. I had other things to do. The bulk of your post has so many mistakes which to me implies you are not really reading the thread and are trying to avoid getting lynched tomorrow and the fact that you lock onto the only target that some people have showed some doubts on to try to save yourself in a last ditch effort. I mean you even accuse palmer when you claim this about austin On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: It should be apparent from Austin's filter that he's either a town trying to do something or he's mafia with some master grand scheme using his role to confirm his mafia buddy as he watches the town crumble (the latter is very unlikely). And this On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: Again Austin is the only true town player here Either he's town and Palmer is town, or he is mafia which you call very unlikely. I cannot see a scenario where austin is both town and Palmer is anti-town. I don't think anybody who reads the thread can come up with that scenario either. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Remember to read carefully what I posted. Look at who is here contributing to the conversation and who is riding in the backseat and just letting everything happen. ##Vote (GreY): austinmcc | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Mementoss. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Unless people want me swapped out, which is also cool. I'll try to change it when I get back then. ##Vote (GreY): austinmcc | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Off the top of my head, a couple things I'm concerned about or interest in:
I haven't seen a ton of desire to get swapped from our world, so I'm still volunteering. Either hassy or I is fine with me, I'm still reading him as town and hoping he's town (scum Yu-Gi-Oh would be frightening, with all the various crap that role can probably do /// the paranoid possibility that he's actually just a copy-cat and the gemini role is made up with him just taking the first dead dude's role). Disregard the paranoid stuff for now, I think he's town, but most of us seem to be phoning it in for days of this game, or less concerned with the game as a whole than whatever vote is going on in our own world, and it's worth getting everyone THINKING about less-noticed facets of this game. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
It's not relevant to your world's lynch today, I know, but I'm interested in what you're thinking about him. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Apart from BH accusing you of being scum, do you find his play scummy? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Clarity said his is a super swap, but he only swapped one of you. I didn't know if your/risen's swaps are super or not, it might have been that Clarity super swapped risen and you got regular swapped due to the interaction with risen. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
SPECULATE ME! Marv as third party? Can't play normal town game because scum will NK him within a couple cycles most likely. But not terribly invested in scumhunting towards a wincon OR in actively dicking with things as scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
For now, from what we've seen, it LOOKS like all swap abilities super swap, so they can be used to move people around worlds but not flip alternate roles. As of now, only the voted-for swap appears to change someone's role. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
##vote (GreY): austinmcc | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
The problem with a lot of your reads are that they are summaries of what someone has done, or who has mentioned someone, but no actual read on the person. There's an end step missing where you give more full thoughts and how you arrive at a read. Your Keirathi read: So what can be gained from taking a step back and looking at Keirathi's play thus far? Well it looks rather hectic and somewhat sheepish, jumping on whoever seems to be gathering the most hate. His disgust for me is... confusing, to say the least. Heck we were even on opposite worlds when he did most of his shit talking. Does this make Keirathi a scumball? IDK, Probably not. From what I can discern, his play so far matches his towny play in CT. So where, then, does his hate spring from? I suppose it all bubbles forth from a source, and that source is the person of my second investigation... You don't know, probably not scum. Play matches towny play in chrono trigger. Then later you note again that you don't think he's scum.Your BH read: His whole base for attack against me is paltry at best. It includes meta reads on a guy with 1 game under his belt with whom he hasn't even played with, and an overly zealous critique about how I mishandled our day 1 debacle. At least Keirathi was town with me in CT and has a frame of reference to base his (however misguided) suspicions on. That being said, I do not think Blazinghand is absolutely mafia. Other than a slight distrust from Sandroba, his maps indicate a fairly town reputation with the rest of you. Personally, I'd give him 50/50 at best, but for now I think there are bigger fish to fry. His attack on you is no good, but you don't think he's absolutely mafia, 50/50 at best.Your Mementoss read: I wanted this to be longer and more incriminating, but sadly it just isn't. He only has two pages of filter, and his discussion so far feels like it comes from a fairly towny place. He also has a believable excuse for not being here right now. I couldn't find anything that explicitly screams SCUM! to me. Unless someone can make a better case, (maybe Risen will step up?) I will be changing my vote once I find a better pick. Townie (But you like Crossfire's post/vote on Mementoss...except after he makes that and you comment on liking that, you unvote Mementoss and vote BH)Your Yamato read: Overall, I'd say Yamato is an obvious newb with a temper problem. I feel like he is probably trying to help out the town, but the way he is going about it is totally fishy and counter-productive. I do not think he should be our lynch today. Newb, townie, temper problemYour BH read (where your vote is): It's clear to me that BH needs to be at the top of our scumdars. His fervor and passion about my scummyness is so extreme that I can't help but feel more sure about BH flipping scum than Mementoss. That being said, I'm going to change my vote. You don't like how hard BH is trying to lynch you. But...why does that make BH scum? You changed your vote a guy without any real reasoning as to why YOU think that HE is SCUM. This is one reason people find you scummy, and why you ARE scummy. Your giant summaries of people's posts end in town, town, town, 50/50 scum for what seems to be no reason than the 50/50 person finds you scummy. You change your vote from Mementoss, who you thought was town, but then liked Crossfire's accusatory post on, to BH, who you seem to be suspicious of solely because he's accusing you. You may have put time and energy into your reads, and that's appreciated, but...you make it sound like giving reads is town pulling your teeth. As your summaries of your reads look, you don't have a scumread on anyone for any reason other than them thinking you're scum. There's a disconnect somewhere, because you seem to be thinking about things as you present a rundown of someone's posts. Like...you note that Yamato's reads are constantly shifting, but what does that tell you? You don't draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that he's changing his mind so much, that his targets are shifting, or at least we can't see where you go from "This is what someone has done" to "This is my conclusion about that person." You just kind of summarize each person's posting and just give this summary read of yours as to whether they're town or scum, and we can't get a feel for WHY must of the time. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Clarity_nl Crossfire99 Dienosore Foolishness Keirathi Marvellosity Palmar randombum SlOosh austinmcc Blazinghand Clarity_nl Darkfirex5 Hassybaby Mementoss Risen Yamato77 + Show Spoiler + Clarity_nl Crossfire99 Dienosore Foolishness Keirathi Marvellosity Palmar randombum SlOosh austinmcc Blazinghand Clarity_nl Darkfirex5 Hassybaby Mementoss Risen Yamato77 | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 13 2012 16:05 randombum wrote: Honestly, at the moment you for screwing things up. What did you mean by this statement to clarity? (This was from D1, when he swapped Keirathi and I) | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Still catching up on the cases. | ||
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