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kitaman27
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On January 12 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote:
not scummy.. dunno but it seemed like he was testing out the plan to see what happens.
Also, if im CC, why the fuck you lynch me? Are you 100% certain RoL is Traitor or something? i didnt see that yet.
So you confirm CC? Could you explain you decision making process when misleading the town on the location of the role?
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another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4)
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On January 12 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote:
not scummy.. dunno but it seemed like he was testing out the plan to see what happens.
Also, if im CC, why the fuck you lynch me? Are you 100% certain RoL is Traitor or something? i didnt see that yet.
We lynch you because you denied the JOAT and took the copy cat, a role that we were watching.
As for RoL, we are lynching him because we don't have a better target (We want aidnai's information instead), and we need to make sure that there is a Traitor in the game. Personally I'd rather see Jimbo's head fall, but more realistically RoL is going to die sometime.
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On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 08:46 HaploPaithan wrote:
I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.
If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT. What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him. Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands.
You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat.
I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us.
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On January 12 2011 08:59 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote:
not scummy.. dunno but it seemed like he was testing out the plan to see what happens.
Also, if im CC, why the fuck you lynch me? Are you 100% certain RoL is Traitor or something? i didnt see that yet. So you confirm CC? Could you explain you decision making process when misleading the town on the location of the role?
agh. misworded If i was CC*
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4)
Are you threatening the town with the hidden CC by not admitting you have it?
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On January 12 2011 09:01 HaploPaithan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote:On January 12 2011 08:46 HaploPaithan wrote:
I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.
If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT. What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him. Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands. You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat. I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us.
Simple question. You are draft pick 11. Did you consider taking JOAT? Of course not, because you expected Kenpachi to take it.
Likewise, we expected deconduo to take CPR doc, so no one took it. And Jackel58 was expected to take Copycat.
If he has something good, well, he can claim and get protection. But would you lynch him if all he has is Copycat?
unvote
Vote: Kenpachi
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On January 12 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4) Are you threatening the town with the hidden CC by not admitting you have it?
No Im giving you heads up that you cant eliminate possibilities when anything can happen
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aw balls i really wanted to vote for aid and now he claims a role like that? wahhh
voting rage seems like a terrible idea if no one is helping him out to stay alive indirectly or otherwise...very unlikely for a mafia to go down so easily day 1. I mean yeah they hardly ever go down day 1 at all, but if they votes start piling up and shit doesnt start flying odds are we got the wrong chap.
oh and lookie me i got a role too, yay despite being so low.
hm didnt say anything about no voting for yourself so ill do that for now, id almost rather just throw a dart at the board for my vote since that's less inclined to slander or manipulation but i suppose it's better to actually end up with a meaningful one, until then
##vote divinek
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On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4)
CC is in t4 unless Jackal is scum and is lying. I believe the plan is to have cpr kill him tonight, so we'll learn that tonight.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:05 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4) Are you threatening the town with the hidden CC by not admitting you have it? No Im giving you heads up that you cant eliminate possibilities when anything can happen
So you believe it benefits the town to not know where the CC is by not telling us whether or not you selected it?
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On January 12 2011 09:05 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4) Are you threatening the town with the hidden CC by not admitting you have it? No Im giving you heads up that you cant eliminate possibilities when anything can happen
In other words Kenpachi took the CC role, and can't claim a different role without being outed.
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Im okay with dying at night. please feel free to roleblock me and kill me at night because you do not want the CC to get my role.
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On January 12 2011 04:36 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 04:28 Barundar wrote:Ah thats why you all want to kill him? Honestly don't see why he is scum just beceause he tells us about a traitor further up the draft, and accuses fishball. But hey, I'm not exactly a RoL expert...  I mean, this post alone should ring a bell. LoR only has 48 posts, and is an "experienced" player huh. Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target.
But LoR being RoL has nothing to do with "us" wanting to kill him. Right now, only Bum and me have stated our reasons why we should lynch LoR. The majority is jumping on the aidnai train.
Meh, since everyone knows who I am already there is no advantage to me using this name anymore. If you want to kill me before I decide to do anything credible then do it. You have all seen how I play in normal games. I will do analysis and you can try to find holes if you want and I will argue and find candidates. Since my AKA isn't hitting I will explain my reasoning in full detail. I figured if I did this earlier on it would let off that I was smurfing but since 90% of the game already knows its fine.
deconduo
Kenpachi
kitaman27
Barundar
Jackal58
Fishball
Amber[Light]
CubEdIn
these are the players ahead of me in the draft list. One of them IS the traitor. Out of them here is how I will break it down. Kenpachi, Deconduo, Kitaman, Barndar. jackal58 and to a lessor extent cubedln are new guys and if you have the option to choose a role, traitor a non power role definitely isn't high on that list for new guys. Its really hard to play and I was looking for a fun challenge. I knew it would be harder to take the hit and get converted if I wasn't on my normal account so I was going to have to try even harder. I will also say that the above mentioned players aren't generally too crazy of people like what you would expect Chezinu to do. If Chezinu was on that list and even pandain I wouldn't feel confident calling fishball as the traitor.
Now for the last two we just have Amber[LighT] and Fishball. Amber is more of a linear player as well not too crazy and if hes town he would choose a powerful town role imo. Fishball however I think is a very likely pick for the person who stole my traitor role. Fishball uses a variety of play styles to avoid establishing any pattern of play, he also never takes games fully serious so he is inherently a very difficult person to read. Fishball also blatantly said he wasn't going to follow the plan the town had been considering. If he was town aligned he probably knew he could pick the traitor role and the odds of someone else picking it were extremely low, especially high up on the draft order. Unfortunately for him I chose to pick it too which meant I narrowed the traitor down to 8 players whose play styles I was familiar with and could make an assessment call on it.
If I actually got the traitor role the last thing I would of done was claim that I didn't get the role. It would lead to the exact wifom shit that is happening now of if I am lying and really got it or not and might confuse people for a little while. While if I just played chaotically and did faulty huge analysis I would likely screw with the town and draw a hit for attempting to be productive.
So I think Fishball has to be the traitor. If you want to kill me to prove that I am being true feel free to do it. But everyone in this game knows that I could be useful if I was left alive and that they are taking care of the mafia's work.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:07 Kenpachi wrote:
Im okay with dying at night. please feel free to roleblock me and kill me at night because you do not want the CC to get my role.
So you confirm you did not select CC?
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On January 12 2011 09:05 Divinek wrote:
aw balls i really wanted to vote for aid and now he claims a role like that? wahhh
voting rage seems like a terrible idea if no one is helping him out to stay alive indirectly or otherwise...very unlikely for a mafia to go down so easily day 1. I mean yeah they hardly ever go down day 1 at all, but if they votes start piling up and shit doesnt start flying odds are we got the wrong chap.
oh and lookie me i got a role too, yay despite being so low.
hm didnt say anything about no voting for yourself so ill do that for now, id almost rather just throw a dart at the board for my vote since that's less inclined to slander or manipulation but i suppose it's better to actually end up with a meaningful one, until then
##vote divinek
Sup Mafia.
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On January 12 2011 09:08 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 09:05 Divinek wrote:
aw balls i really wanted to vote for aid and now he claims a role like that? wahhh
voting rage seems like a terrible idea if no one is helping him out to stay alive indirectly or otherwise...very unlikely for a mafia to go down so easily day 1. I mean yeah they hardly ever go down day 1 at all, but if they votes start piling up and shit doesnt start flying odds are we got the wrong chap.
oh and lookie me i got a role too, yay despite being so low.
hm didnt say anything about no voting for yourself so ill do that for now, id almost rather just throw a dart at the board for my vote since that's less inclined to slander or manipulation but i suppose it's better to actually end up with a meaningful one, until then
##vote divinek Sup Mafia.
POST #4000
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On January 12 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Yea. im not CC or JOAT
Are you bulletproof?
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