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Complaints about moderation and freedom of speech are for the website feedback forums. They will be treated as being off topic and dealt with appropriately.

No more Iron Lady talk, no more gender debate. This is a thread about a StarCraft player. Last I checked what's in between your legs has no impact on how you play the game.

I agree with some of the comments here that the moderation on this thread has been dreadful. It's way too soft. I have gone ahead and simply deleted a bunch of comments that fail TL's community standards. Yes, those standards are determined by the mods. Yes, those standards are not perfect nor even uniformly applied. But we try our best. Spare us your righteous indignation over any notional impairment of free speech. This is a private site. It's a club. There is no "right" to free speech here. We only tolerate quality speech. By who's standards? Ours. Go read the TL Ten Commandments. And if you don't like this policy or our way of running our house, leave. - mensrea
ElPeque.fogata
Profile Joined May 2010
Uruguay462 Posts
April 17 2012 12:37 GMT
#501
On April 17 2012 21:29 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 21:25 ElPeque.fogata wrote:
its a guy.

there, i said it.

no problem with that though, gl

No, she's not.

And your comment is disrespectful and irrelevant.

Glad for Scarlett, you are a promising player .



Have you ever met a girl?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#502
Wow, she beat a code A Zerg, Ddoro and Demuslim and took a game off Oz in IPL4? That not a bad run at all, especially for a previously unknown player.
Bora Pain minha porra!
thewax
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria365 Posts
April 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#503
On April 17 2012 21:31 CDR wrote:
BTW if I call some guy a girl am I gonna get banned as well?

you clearly dont understand that she does want to be seen as a girl, right?
why is this such a problem for you? whats your problem with that? why do you have to argue about that?

welcome to 2012, you and your "bro" (aka GF) should accept it
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
April 17 2012 12:40 GMT
#504
On April 17 2012 21:25 ElPeque.fogata wrote:
its a guy.

there, i said it.

no problem with that though, gl


See, here is the thing. She was born a male (you don't know what her current sex is). But her gender is a girl. That means that referring to her as a 'guy' is ENORMOUSLY offensive. You might not think it like that, but it is. So if you have a grain of respect in your body, you would call her a she, per her request.
I love.
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
April 17 2012 12:41 GMT
#505
On April 17 2012 21:01 AdrianHealey wrote:
She has talent, therefore she was picked up by an ambitious team.

That is all there is to it, really.



Let me quote this again, before it get's lost by the trolls.
I love.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 12:44:54
April 17 2012 12:42 GMT
#506
gender discussion stops now. don't care what side you're on.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
CDR
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland84 Posts
April 17 2012 12:43 GMT
#507
On April 17 2012 21:38 thewax wrote:
you clearly dont understand that she does want to be seen as a girl, right?
why is this such a problem for you? whats your problem with that? why do you have to argue about that?
welcome to 2012, you and your "bro" (aka GF) should accept it

I just don't agree with the idea of "special treatment" for anybody.


User was temp banned for this post.
MateFeedKill
Profile Joined August 2010
United States25 Posts
April 17 2012 12:44 GMT
#508
This is fantastic! So happy for her, live the dream!
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
April 17 2012 12:48 GMT
#509
I've seen some trash threads on TL.net, but this is an all-time low. I can't believe 20 of the pages are filled with irrelevant bashing just because of Scarlett's personal life.

Can we get off the topic? Scarlett is Scarlett, and that's all anyone needs to know and care about.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
April 17 2012 13:00 GMT
#510
On April 17 2012 21:48 HeroMystic wrote:
I've seen some trash threads on TL.net, but this is an all-time low. I can't believe 20 of the pages are filled with irrelevant bashing just because of Scarlett's personal life.

Can we get off the topic? Scarlett is Scarlett, and that's all anyone needs to know and care about.


Yeah but is it really surprising? Its a complicated and unprecedented issue in the SC2 community. And I think most people dont mean to specifically single out Scarlett. They are talking about transgenered issues in general. So I dont judge the so called "trolls" to harshly.

I have opinions too, but save them for another website/thread.

Point is this is all pretty inspirational and I hope to see Scarlett do well in more tourneys with the help of the new team.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:05:01
April 17 2012 13:04 GMT
#511
On April 17 2012 21:48 HeroMystic wrote:
I've seen some trash threads on TL.net, but this is an all-time low. I can't believe 20 of the pages are filled with irrelevant bashing just because of Scarlett's personal life.

Can we get off the topic? Scarlett is Scarlett, and that's all anyone needs to know and care about.

Certainly, but it's also disingenuous to pretend that's not one of the reasons she is getting (positive) attention and has a fanbase
Perjantai
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland18 Posts
April 17 2012 13:06 GMT
#512
She's good at starcraft 2 and it's all that matters.
Good luck Scarlett.
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
April 17 2012 13:07 GMT
#513
On April 17 2012 05:38 Dexington wrote:
This will be the only female signing where it isn't full of "Oh, obviously for the publicity" or "pics?"

Congrats Scarlett, well earned.

Riiight yea definatly the ooonly one bro lol. Being from the same country has nothing to do with this opinion or anything lol. Try to be alittle more objective in the future please cause your statement is just pretty false.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
bayside
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
April 17 2012 13:11 GMT
#514
Congrats, wish you got on a better funded team though with more opportunities!
Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
April 17 2012 13:16 GMT
#515
Good luck Scarlett! Best wishes from Halden, Norway
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
April 17 2012 13:22 GMT
#516
On April 17 2012 22:04 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 21:48 HeroMystic wrote:
I've seen some trash threads on TL.net, but this is an all-time low. I can't believe 20 of the pages are filled with irrelevant bashing just because of Scarlett's personal life.

Can we get off the topic? Scarlett is Scarlett, and that's all anyone needs to know and care about.

Certainly, but it's also disingenuous to pretend that's not one of the reasons she is getting (positive) attention and has a fanbase


Sure. She is pretty unique. Hundreds of people are really good at SC2, so obviously those that stand out in one way or another will get more attention. I personally don't see a problem with it.
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
April 17 2012 13:23 GMT
#517
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post
BookII
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:27:02
April 17 2012 13:26 GMT
#518
Hope everything goes well with the new team, and your practice pays off.

I often wonder about how hard It must be to be a pro, with so much pressure on your every move and every result.
Good luck. Your play at IPL4 seemed inspired. I can't wait to see it get better!
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
April 17 2012 13:31 GMT
#519
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.

User was temp banned for this post.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 17 2012 13:37 GMT
#520
On April 17 2012 12:20 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 11:06 WigglingSquid wrote:
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
A lot of people are going to look at the headline and original post, and ask themselves what difference does it really make whether you're a female or male. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter 99% of the time

But then when you enter the Iron Lady tournament, the 1% pops up and asks the question. And in my opinion, fails the question from an anatomy standpoint.

In my world of mixed martial arts, a transgender would not get away with entering (and automatically winning) a WMMA contest. They would perform a simple epitestosterone level check, and the transgender would fail that test. I would imagine Scarlett failing a epitestosterone test as well.

I'm only bringing this up to point out that the second place finisher of the Iron Lady tournament is probably the true winner.

Yes, a male hormonal footprint really powers up your APM. I mean, men's fingers get so much more muscular. Not to mention the notorious genetic advantage for mechanics, micro, macro, and strategical thinking.
/sarcasm

you're delusional if you think that while playing a game designed FOR a primarily male audience having male sexual characteristics and by correlation the perks and downs that come with it (aggression, focused vision, better tracking of moving objects, etc) has no benefits.
NOT SARCASM

Sigh. Males having "focused vision" and "better tracking of moving objects" are largely urban legends, popularized by a few pop-psi books without much scientific credence.
As for aggression, I will just sit here and wait for you to be trodden on by any of the numerous goal-oriented women out there in the real world.

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