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dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
March 17 2010 12:43 GMT
#21
Guemchi will all kill 4 STXs and then proceed to all kill kwanro, zero and free in the last three games...

Stars wins 4-3
Guemchi wins 7-0
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 14:57:00
March 17 2010 14:38 GMT
#22
Woongjin Stars got this.
Even though STX lineup looks amazing with (T)Hwasin, (P)Kal, (Z)Calm leading each race. Key player for STX has to be (Z)Calm, if (Z)Calm fails to get 2 or 3 winning games against Woongjin they are in trouble.
The Woongjin Stars lineup isn't that bad either I expect (T)MVP or (T)PianO to at least get 1 kill if they get send out. Key player for Woongjin Stars has to be (Z)ZerO. (Z)ZerO ZvP, ZvT is currently unstoppable (expect for Flash cause you cheat!)you name he'll give you a win, but recently his ZvZ has been lacking with a lost to (Z)Action, (Z)Killer and (Z)Luxury. I expect winning on ZvP and ZvT but ZvZ will have to see.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
March 18 2010 04:11 GMT
#23
Bump, starters out, Kal vs MVP!!!
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 18 2010 04:18 GMT
#24
LOL MVP gonna get rolled

Wstars has free,g-chizzle,zero and kwanro why are they using MVP???
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
March 18 2010 04:23 GMT
#25
I think Stars has this unless Hwasin steps up
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 18 2010 04:26 GMT
#26
Zerollllllled time. Calling July old and fat is too much, gotta give him props.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
March 18 2010 04:29 GMT
#27
I think STX SouL might actually do very well since they have so many zerg snipers (shuttle, modesty, calm, hwasin) and Kal is being sent out first vs. a terran.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-18 04:30:55
March 18 2010 04:29 GMT
#28
KAL ALLKILL EZ

man I just realized, this is the 1st time Stars has been in any playoffs in YEARS AND YEARS. wow GJ stars, so proud of these guys improving so much over 2 years ago. And it's all thanks to ZerO really.
Free Palestine
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-18 04:31:57
March 18 2010 04:31 GMT
#29
MVP's gonna get crushed. But I don't get why Kal's getting sent out first. Everyone's gonna be practicing to snipe him. And unless he gets 2 kills or more, it's essentially like wasting their best player.

Actually, after thinking through it some more, it makes some sense.
God Bless
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
March 18 2010 04:33 GMT
#30
I have HIGH hopes that MVP will win against Kal even though its not gonna be true but you will never know what can happen in playoffs.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
March 18 2010 04:33 GMT
#31
Kal vs MVP... YES.

TIME TO GET YOUR REVENGE >:D

Stars gonna take WL ezpz
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
March 18 2010 04:43 GMT
#32
On March 18 2010 13:31 Roffles wrote:
MVP's gonna get crushed. But I don't get why Kal's getting sent out first. Everyone's gonna be practicing to snipe him. And unless he gets 2 kills or more, it's essentially like wasting their best player.

Actually, after thinking through it some more, it makes some sense.


People asked why Jaedong was sent out first last time around, and we saw what happened then.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
March 18 2010 04:46 GMT
#33
My random analysis tidbits:

Kal is going to win 1 or 2 games. I don't think he'll lose to a Z unless they're doing something really fishy. If it is a Z that kills him I doubt it will be Zero, since they'll probably be trying some gambit build and don't risk Zero on it. I would include Kwanro, but fishy gambits are his specialty.

I expect the Kal killer to be less of a big name player. Just someone who is sniping him and losing. The STX pick depends on who takes out Kal. More specifically, whether it is a Zerg (send Modesty for the win) or one of the lesser races. I could easily see Shuttle coming out against a non-Zerg, though if it's a Protoss mayyybe Hero. He's slumping pretty badly though, so it's tough to tell.

People who are saying Calm is slumping are thoroughly wrong. Just look at his recent stats to see how stupid that claim is. I imagine he is performing fairly well in practice and STX is holding on to him as the ace. I think Zero will probably be Woongjin's ace player.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
March 18 2010 04:48 GMT
#34
My Analysis!

Stars

(P)free - (P)free has been consistent. Delivering 1-2 kills per game usually. He'll prolly be someone that will be sent out 2nd/3rd.

(P)GuemChi - G-Chizzle fizzled out. I dont see him being sent out. He's woonjin's 4th slot. but since (T)MVP is in, I dont know why the Coaches wouldnt send (Z)Kwanro/(Z)ZerO instead of him.

(Z)ZerO - (Z)ZerO is pretty fuc'kin good! He'll prolly be the 4th slot to wait out (Z)Calm/(Z)Modesty.

(Z)Kwanro - He'll prolly be sent to snipe ZvZ wise. (Z)Modesty/(Z)Calm.

STX

(P)Shuttle - Holy fuck. (P)SoO raped (P)Shuttle. HOwever. (P)Shuttle was on a 11 streak vs Z. He can prolly match (Z)Kwanro. His vT is good too. But, Im pretty sure he'll be sent out for (P)free if he plays. PvP is his Forte.

(P)Kal - (P)Kal is the driving (Z)Line behind STX. He's the guy they depend on to shift the balance. He can take on anyone from Stars while being a Favorite or Equal.

(Z)Calm - (Z)Calm slumping? No. Fuck no. (Z)Calm is very good at what he does. IN ALL MATCHUPS. Godforbid though. If (T)MVP beats (P)Kal and lets say they send (Z)Calm out. I swear, if (T)MVP goes for a bunker (T)Rush. FUCK. FUCK FUCK.

(Z)Modesty - ZvZ sniper. He's not that good at much else. (I saw his ZvP vs (P)Bisu.)

(T)Hwasin - Bleh. (T)Hwasin hasnt gotten to play much :<. I have faith though. He can get a (T)Kill if he's sent out!

(T)FrOzen - God forbid. They send (T)FrOzen out. Hey. He (P)Actually won a game this season.
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
March 18 2010 05:30 GMT
#35
Such a difficult match to predict because so many players on a good day can take out the entire opposing team. I can definitely see... shuttle, kal, calm, modesty, zero, kwanro, and free all performing AKs. If STX can save modesty long enough for zero and kwanro, they'll win. I don't think Woongjin will save kwanro for 3rd though knowing that. It all comes down to free and how long he can stay out, cause that prevents STX from using modesty to take out opposing zergs. There is a really high chance we will see Calm and Zero Acing for their respective teams.

Kal > MVP. Fighting Spirit is a nice macro map though so MVP's got a decent shot.
Kal < Kwanro
Hwasin/Modesty > Kwanro
Hwasin/Modesty < free
Shuttle < free
Calm > free
Calm > zero

Each team can play map/racial matchup's really well which is why STX in the ZvZ mirror (where racial advantages have no effect) has a strong advantage. It is for this reason that I think STX will win. All i can say is ouch @ neo moon glaive and PvZ is a hard matchup on a lot of these maps which is where the strength of each team lies in. There can be definitely surprise appearances by either hero or July to snipe free. Oh, and Kwanro likes to choke despite how much I enjoy watching him play.

With bias...
+ Show Spoiler +
Kal > MVP
Kal < Kwanro
Hwasin < Kwanro
Modesty < Kwanro
Calm < Kwanro
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 18 2010 06:02 GMT
#36
STX should have a slight edge in this. Stars just got AKed by Action, and although it was through three ZvZs, I don't see why Calm wouldn't be able to do around the same amount of damage. Similarly, I don't see many Stars players being a big threat to Kal. If/when Kal faces Kwanro, he'll on the lookout for all-ins (although I doubt Kwanro would do one in this case tbh), and Kwanro in a straight up ZvP should be no match for Kal + Show Spoiler +
although the same can be said for hyuk lolool
. So unless ZerO comes out early to take care of Kal, Kal might go as far as a 3kill here, as I believe his PvP is stronger than free's.
jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-18 06:45:53
March 18 2010 06:41 GMT
#37
I can see either team taking this.

The arguments about Stars' zerg line being stronger seem pretty rational, however I wouldn't discount the fact that STX still has a good handful of strong players, and a couple players who could snipe Zero/Kwanro (YoonJoong, Modesty, and maybe Calm [if clam doesn't show up instead] or hwasin [pretty unlikely]).

Should be a great match whichever way it goes.

Also, the STX fanboy inside me has to say: + Show Spoiler +
Shuttle Allkill yeaaaaahhhhhhhh
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 18 2010 06:47 GMT
#38
STX is gonna wreck this shit and win grand finals.
TranslatorBaa!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-18 06:53:30
March 18 2010 06:50 GMT
#39
My predictions:

(P)Kal < (T)MVP
(Z)Calm > (T)MVP
(Z)Calm < (Z)ZerO
(P)Shuttle > (Z)ZerO
(P)Shuttle < (Z)Kwanro
(Z)Modesty > (Z)Kwanro
(Z)Modesty < (P)free

4-3 Woonjin Stars
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 18 2010 06:57 GMT
#40
STX hwaiting! STX-KT final with Calm all kill!
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