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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On June 06 2011 08:42 omgCRAZY wrote: As the day goes on we will separate the lurkers from the inactives and that is when we will be able to start to piece together how everyone is playing. I am more interested in the people NOT talking than all of the people pointing fingers right now. Says the person with only 1 post so far? | ||
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
? I have posted like 4-5 times go look | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
Crazy actually has a couple of posts from last night. Use the profile button. Check post history. You both are saying a whole lot of nothing (although, there isn't really much to say this early). | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Kairo
Sweden184 Posts
His posts have been reeking of bloodlust, and he have been throwing accusations around like they were candy. On June 05 2011 14:39 cherubael wrote: So...you asked a question so you could be lynched day one...alright...that makes sense. (note the sarcasm) Either you give a legitimate, straight reason to ask this sort of question as townie, or you clearly are just trying to save your butt after having messed and shown your role as mafia. Also, Aril, you seem to be very quick in defending him, while not wanting to accuse anyone. Are you afraid your role will be too obvious if you accuse someone? Also, what reason do you have to defend him? What has he done for you? The only reason would be because you are both mafia, and you are trying to look out for him. ----- But then again, he might just be a bit eager... Also: On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote: With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game. What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes. I also agree on On June 05 2011 15:36 iGrok wrote: He has plenty of reasons to be a townie. Don't even think about that kind of McCarthy Bullshit this early in the game. Anyone voting this early deserves some measure of suspicion. ------ from another post Regarding discussion: Freeloader is probably not scum. He is new and likely inexperienced. However, just to be sure, a cop needs to check him tonight. Which reminds me: This is nowhere near waterproof, but I feel that I have nowhere better to put a vote at this time. Since it is likely that FL625 is the one that will get lynched today, we will get a flip. If he flips mafia I will conclude that cherubael is most likely non-mafia (a.k.a townie in this game, since it does not have third party roles); but if he flips townie (more likely imo) I will still view cherubael as highly suspicious. On a sidenote: This game is mind-bending. I am too chicken to suggest that people change their vote from FL to cherubael, since it still is most likely that FL gets lynched, and there is a realistic chance that FL flips mafia. And if I had suggested that, it would paint a huge red cross on my back. And also by writing this, pointing out that I am afraid of death when the ideal mafia mindset is to be fearless of death for the benefit of the team can be considered as scummy. Gaah. If it is revealed afterwards that all mafia is lurking and that we are just a clueless chicken coop I will have to kick myself in the back. | ||
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
On June 06 2011 09:56 Kairo wrote: If it is revealed afterwards that all mafia is lurking and that we are just a clueless chicken coop I will have to kick myself in the back. This is what I am most afraid of. Though I do agree with your assessment on cherubael. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On the topic of freeloader: I don't think he would be mafia off of his initial question. Having played a previous game as mafia, mafia members are explicitly aware of the fact that they are allowed to PM one another meaning that he would not need to ask that question in the first place. Given that he said that "he read the rules twice", there is no reason to believe that he would not read his role PM as closely. Many people have concluded that his responses to being put under pressure are suspicious, but I don't think so. If anything, a mafia member would not want to put themselves under increased suspicion with cryptic statements - they want to hide, not increase the chances that they will be caught out. This, however, is not as strong as the first reason I had said above. Judging based off of day 1 analysis will never be entirely solid, however, the people that jumped the gun to vote for freeloader are more suspicious then freeloader himself. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:38 Jimbooo wrote: @aprudds Wow, nice observation. I dont know if hes just someone with a question or what, but I dont want to make hasty decisions and accidentally lynch someone that we shouldnt lynch. This establishes his desire to not make a 'hasty decision'. But then, he immediately votes for freeloader at 13:52. A pretty 'hasty decision' in my opinion. Then, when people start questioning the lynch of freeloader, he becomes defensive. On June 05 2011 14:09 Jimbooo wrote: There is still 48 hours left, no one knows who is going to end up getting lynched and I'm not saying free loader is INDEFINITELY Mafia. So far he just has the most against him is all I am saying. Just because someone has the 'most against them' doesn't mean that its the correct decision. Indeed, this seems to immediately contradict his assessment of not being hasty. On June 05 2011 14:57 Jimbooo wrote: Thinking about this , I am sort of happy I can unvote. But that doesnt change freeloaders suspiciousness. With his last post , I do think he is alot more shady , but I dont want to point fingers. Like I said in one of my posts , I dont want to be hasty and lynch a townie , but there is 48 hours left. Now he leaves a back-out plan. This post smacks of defensiveness and typical mafia behavior of "i don't really want to lynch this person but I'm still voting for him." In my opinion, its to look back later to show that he never really wanted to lynch freeloader. On June 05 2011 15:13 Jimbooo wrote: I guess I was just quick to vote? idk, its possible to change votes so I wouldnt say its a mistake , but once freeloader was that suspicious I just felt it was a good time to vote. Same as above. When put under pressure, he immediately 'backs out' of his decision. On June 05 2011 15:45 Jimbooo wrote: I have to say, it probably is better to not vote until your sure of it and wont change your vote , but as of now I'm keeping my vote as is. Same as above. On June 06 2011 01:08 Jimbooo wrote: I accidentally posted my last post without finishing , sorry. Im not sure if freeloader was TRYING to be suspicious with his last post , but after thinking it through I think he is probably just new. That small amount of evidence got a discussion started , but I think people also voted slightly hastily. It looks very suspicious that so many people voted for freeloader right after he was accused. This takes the cake, he accuses other people of being hasty, when he was one of the first to vote for freeloader. Now that more people are defending freeloader, he backs out and unvotes to not look suspicious for later. I would like to hear Jimboo's response to these accusations, but I think he is extremely suspicious at the moment. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=16#309 I thought post editing wasn't allowed. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:28 Pyo wrote: woah there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=16#309 I thought post editing wasn't allowed. Mod Check Please | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Amazingxkcd I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts. It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post: Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia. For town: aidnai, GMarshal For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13 LSB's Newbie Guide Mafiascum Newbie Guide Introduction to Mafia (Flash) Ver's town guide Ace's Mafia Manifesto Qatol's Town Guide So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. Grush57 This is an example of someone who is acting scummy, but who could be just a really bad townie. Not advising we use our first lynch on him but its someone to look out for (maybe DT check?). Here's why: First, without posting anything in the thread he immediately voted for Freeloader. Could definitely be viewed as a rookie maf move. When called out about it he failed to respond. In fact he did not contribute anything to the thread until the inactive list to which he responded: Im not inactive, I just dont feel like anybody can accuse this early. Wait? What? After blindly bandwagon voting not even 4 hours into the game? Inconsistency tends to be a maf trait. When called out he responded: Yea true, I stupidly joined the bandwagon to lynch freeloader from his posts. Again, Wait? What?! A little later when calling out omgCRAZY he posts this gem, his third post. Says the person with only 1 post so far? OmgCRAZY had posted several times..... More to come tomorrow. Would love to hear what everyone thinks. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote: Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. Amazingxkcd I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts. This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this: Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post: So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. Grush57 This is an example of someone who is acting scummy, but who could be just a really bad townie. Not advising we use our first lynch on him but its someone to look out for (maybe DT check?). Here's why: First, without posting anything in the thread he immediately voted for Freeloader. Could definitely be viewed as a rookie maf move. When called out about it he failed to respond. In fact he did not contribute anything to the thread until the inactive list to which he responded: Wait? What? After blindly bandwagon voting not even 4 hours into the game? Inconsistency tends to be a maf trait. When called out he responded: Yea true, I stupidly joined the bandwagon to lynch freeloader from his posts. Again, Wait? What?! A little later when calling out omgCRAZY he posts this gem, his third post. Says the person with only 1 post so far? OmgCRAZY had posted several times..... More to come tomorrow. Would love to hear what everyone thinks. When quoting, make sure you leave the name/time part of the quote in ^^. Its too easy to write a fake quote otherwise. Just a little tip ^^ | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:53 iGrok wrote: When quoting, make sure you leave the name/time part of the quote in ^^. Its too easy to write a fake quote otherwise. Just a little tip ^^ Good call. Thanks  | ||
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cherubael
United States12 Posts
Good luck have fun! Cherubael's right, I'm not liking freeloader625 at the moment... This and the comment on the inactivelist is the only relevant information 35spike1 has posted. This leaves him off the list, but he seems to have nothing relevant to say. This seems a little suspicious, so I think that keeping an eye on him would be a good idea, though I wouldn't say he's scum...yet. | ||
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cherubael
United States12 Posts
35spike1 I like to bold names to make them more obvious. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
I didn't catch it in time to see the original. I think flamewheel can see this sort of thing so I'll ask him. Because this is a noobies game I'll let you go with just a warning but the next time ANYONE does this they die, no exceptions. You've been warned | ||
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aprudds
Canada144 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I didn't catch it in time to see the original. I think flamewheel can see this sort of thing so I'll ask him. Because this is a noobies game I'll let you go with just a warning but the next time ANYONE does this they die, no exceptions. You've been warned I already reported it and the mod told me it was a typo fix. | ||
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