mr liquid tyler im having extreme trouble as protoss .. stoping normal protoss builds now.
ive lost maybe 9 out of 10 today alone. i fear my entrance in masters will be met with a demotion to plat if this keeps up ....
you know the builds.. korean 4 warpgate is really popular today for some reason..i prefer going a slower more methotical build

scout a hundred times and still cant kill the pylons in my base before they finish
ay tips or tricks or even a very defensive build order would be really helpful.

RHoudini

Belgium3627 Posts

January 19 2011 00:13 GMT

#322

Love your stream, your commentary makes all the difference.
Last game had Warp prism with two immortals for dropping on tanks, a distant echo of the reaver drops in BW <3

FConnectionUK

United States316 Posts

January 19 2011 00:32 GMT

#323

Hello Tyler! Your stream is awesome and I learn new stuff everyday watching your view.
You also do awesome job explaining why such and such works.

As a protoss player I have a question if you don't mind answering.
I also enjoy watching Huk's stream late night. And very often during his PvT, I realized he goes 3 wg with constant Stalker harrass up terran's ramp if he scouts no marauder in first few minute.
And whenever Huk chooses to 3wg, he always gets it right, terran IS going for current-very-trendy siege tank marine push.
Is there a specific way Huk's scouting what terran's doing?

I usually scout his ramp during 4:20ish minute mark and if I see 4 marines, I can pretty much guess that terran's teching. But by then, my 3 wg pressure will come too late. How do you scout if terrans teching faster besides the gut feeling?

Thank you!

Fryght

Netherlands254 Posts

January 19 2011 00:57 GMT

#324

Cool to see you playing on Korean ladder as well and also glad to hear you'll be streaming more frequently! Much appreciated, one of the best and most helpful streams out there!

ScaringKids

Portugal819 Posts

January 19 2011 00:59 GMT

#325

Loving the stream Tyler. Having a top tier player like u streaming and actually commentating on what you are doing and why you are doing it, makes it even more awsome that it alrdy is.

Will watch it everyday as i am a fairly new player in this game and a Protoss. Already got a few tips today, thank you.

Greetings from Europe.

NonY

8748 Posts

January 19 2011 01:12 GMT

#326

On January 19 2011 09:32 FConnectionUK wrote:
Hello Tyler! Your stream is awesome and I learn new stuff everyday watching your view.
You also do awesome job explaining why such and such works.

As a protoss player I have a question if you don't mind answering.
I also enjoy watching Huk's stream late night. And very often during his PvT, I realized he goes 3 wg with constant Stalker harrass up terran's ramp if he scouts no marauder in first few minute.
And whenever Huk chooses to 3wg, he always gets it right, terran IS going for current-very-trendy siege tank marine push.
Is there a specific way Huk's scouting what terran's doing?

I usually scout his ramp during 4:20ish minute mark and if I see 4 marines, I can pretty much guess that terran's teching. But by then, my 3 wg pressure will come too late. How do you scout if terrans teching faster besides the gut feeling?

Thank you!

I'm guessing that it's probably somewhat map dependent and perhaps even opponent dependent, since at that level of play you often play the same guy many times. 2 refineries is a big tell but most Terrans won't let you see that.

You may have just seen him get lucky a bit with it, combined with some educated guesses from opponent/map. It's not a terrible move against other Terran builds so I'm sure he's comfortable doing it even when he's not sure.

And just a note to everyone else (like the guy who asked for some strategy advice earlier on this page), I'm generally not going to answer questions from viewers or posters in this thread. This guy gets a reply because he has a star, which means he's put in tons of time and effort contributing to TL.net, so he gets some contribution in return =]

I may open up to questions a bit more later, but the general rule right now is no.

Enyce

Germany43 Posts

January 19 2011 15:05 GMT

#327

Thanks for streaming and recording!
Your streams and commentary really helps a lot understanding what your doing and why your doing it that way.

I would like to see you pointing out in your VODs name or description what strategy your working on, like yesterday the 3 Gate Robotics.

Thanks, good luck and have fun!

Burn2Memory

United States574 Posts

January 19 2011 22:19 GMT

#328

2 hour daily show and vods? All I have to say is.. AWWWW YEAAAAAHHHH

Tabbris

Bangladesh2839 Posts

January 19 2011 23:06 GMT

#329

So excited :D!!!

traca

146 Posts

January 19 2011 23:10 GMT

#330

love from paris and ty so much for recording my boyfriend wont let me watch you past 1 am

Dystisis

Norway713 Posts

January 19 2011 23:21 GMT

#331

Shouldn't the stream be up now?

Corrupted

United States1255 Posts

January 19 2011 23:59 GMT

#332

On January 20 2011 08:21 Dystisis wrote:
Shouldn't the stream be up now?

well...it lasted until day 2. Can't say I didn't see this coming.

Tabbris

Bangladesh2839 Posts

January 20 2011 00:08 GMT

#333

was it cancled?

Dystisis

Norway713 Posts

January 20 2011 00:23 GMT

#334

Up now, pure unadulterated awesomeness.

AndAgain

United States2621 Posts

January 20 2011 03:16 GMT

#335

Tyler, why do you wall in with pylon+gateway rather than gateway+cyber? That's probably why you lost that PvZ on steppes.

Mahavishnu

Canada396 Posts

January 20 2011 23:27 GMT

#336

On January 20 2011 08:10 traca wrote:
love from paris and ty so much for recording my boyfriend wont let me watch you past 1 am

I give you permission.

yawnoC

United States3704 Posts

January 20 2011 23:40 GMT

#337

Playing the same protoss back 2 back o_0;

Mischi

Germany133 Posts

January 22 2011 18:50 GMT

#338

Really nice commentating of Kikikaki's games.
I'm learning a lot there.
Also awesome music (Radiohead)

Arch00

United States233 Posts

January 22 2011 20:29 GMT

#339

Lovin' the Radiohead Tyler, give Muse a try if you haven't already. Another great England-based band

Tufas

Austria2259 Posts

January 22 2011 22:03 GMT

#340

I cant watch your stream .. 15 minute game double 2gate and we never knew when they built core or researched warpgate for you only had the units tab open and never switched it up with production... I had to switch stream