EPTNot sure about the exact votecount, but if we don´t have a candidate now, 30 minutes before the deadline, then I´d feel fine with not lynching at all. Late voteswitches never end well.
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Not sure about the exact votecount, but if we don´t have a candidate now, 30 minutes before the deadline, then I´d feel fine with not lynching at all. Late voteswitches never end well. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:32 Forumite wrote: Back, still some reading to catch up on. Not sure about the exact votecount, but if we don´t have a candidate now, 30 minutes before the deadline, then I´d feel fine with not lynching at all. Late voteswitches never end well. "Never" is a strong word - sandro and I pwnz0rd scum with late-switches in C9++. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
##unvote ##vote: no lynch | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:11 MrZentor wrote: Hey guys! Here are my thoughts. Forumrite and Prphlz are being stupid for attacking me even though it's obvious that I'm innocent. I have a feeling scum would switch over to an easier lynch such as Marv or Sbrubbles. Everybody who keeps repeating how innocent I am is annoying for being ridiculously ridiculously redundant. I feel at this point talking about how innocent I am is like talking about what the masons should do. We need to do four things. 1. Decide if we have a lynch or not- I feel we should because of what somebody said about it not helping us all if we don't lynch somebody, because we'll end up losing on the same day anyways. 2. Decide if we want to lynch a lurker or an active person- I would like to lynch a lurker, because currently there isn't any solid case on any active person, and I would prefer to lose a lurker over an active person. 3. Lower the number of possible lynch victims- I believe right now 6 different people are being voted for. That means scum have complete control of the lynch; we need to have 1-2 suspects, or we're not going to get a good lynch. 4. We need to decide who to lynch. I'll be back soon with a suitable lurker to lynch. I really don't like this post from Zentor. His first sentence is just WIFOM. The four part list reminds me a lot of the first half of this post from Death Factory 2. This seems really scummy to me, like a post for the sake of posting, but I wasn't getting a scum read from MrZentor at the beginning of the day so I'm not sure. I think I'd be fine with a no lynch in this situation as well. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
TELL ME WHY THE HELL YOU DECIDED THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BE ALL AGGRESSIVE IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS GAME RIGHT NOW everybody agrees that your case was weak and i think it looks really fake, full of dumb contradictions and grasping in the thin air, tell me why you decided to be all pissed off and make bad cases instead of playing your usual game? I'm also going to vote marvellosity just to get a lynch. I prefer lynches to no lynches and I don't think that marvellosity is clear townie at all. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:33 VisceraEyes wrote: "Never" is a strong word - sandro and I pwnz0rd scum with late-switches in C9++. In my experience they never end well. I´ve seen a voteswitch during the last 10 minutes and, surprise, town. If we can´t decide calmly on the best target, then rushing the decision right before deadline won´t make it more likely to find scum. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I think sandro would advocate a no-lynch in this situation - I could be wrong. He strikes me as a "nolynch>mislynch" kind of guy and marv is looking like mislynch bait to me. :S doubt the Sandroba part but yeah I could be wrong as well :p Also Marv is not a mislynch bait. No one was talking about him until just recently because everyone else was aiming for optimal play. Sandroba and I tried to get forumite or Rad lynched. You tried to get Ace lynched. And everyone was pushing for someone else. Marv is like the one guy who never got a mention although he has been suspicious all game long and lurking all game long while other people (Sbrubbles & Zentor) have been a huge issue troughout the day although I think both are incredible stupid lynches. --- Toad | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
MrZentor (2) MrZentor Forumite VisceraEyes (0) Radfield (1) Bluelightz Snarfs (3) Strongandbig prplhz marvellosity Ace (0) Marvellosity (4) Snarfs phagga SamuelLJackson Sbrubbles Sbrubbles (1) VisceraEyes 17 minutes remain in the day; majority is 7 and currently no one is to be removed from the show. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
I still want MrZentor to die, especially after his listpost, I don´t want him to go out and provide us with a lurker to lynch. Barring that, do we no-lynch, or lynch snarfs or marvel? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:52 prplhz wrote: @Ace We're approaching the deadline, who do you have in mind for lynch today? Right now it looks like VisceraEyes and MrZentor are the two front runners, do you have any preference among these? (last question was just a suggestion, just talk about whatever scum read you have) I went back to read the interaction between VE and Zentor and it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I think anyone trying to make that little bit into a lynch is the real culprit here. I'm betting that if we lynched one of them and they flipped Town, the guys leading the lynch could just say "Well, the case was solid" when it wasn't. Now I did skim a bit further down in the thread and notice you said you didn't call VE scum but you are a part of this. However Radfield popped his vote on very early so I think he's just as guilty as you are. Bluelightz wrote So, I have two suspicions, I will vote Radfield as he sheeped, and is being different to his meta. ##Vote: Radfield What is Radfield's meta? I agree with the sheeping though. @strongandbig: I'm somewhat on the same vein of thinking. As I mentioned in my reply to prphlz I think the people trying to lynch Zentor or VE need to be more scrutinized. I'm leaning towards Radfield being the scummy one. I find it hard to believe he really has a way to apply pressure to VE whether the guy was posting or not since he didn't seem to be around himself. If he was indeed around I'm pretty sure instead of waiting for VE to show up he'd have a comment about something in the mean time. VE not being around is just an excuse so that he didn't have to post himself. ToadStern wrote That's really important because the big part has 2 major phrases in there: 1) People saying "I don't think VE would ignore what's going on for so long if he's mafia". I think I just showed that he would if he thinks there's no danger. He even told me to do that last game. Agree anyone? 2) Scumhunting. I don't see that at all. So I really think he's mafia at this point and nothing that was presented is a towntell at all because frankly he DOES that as mafia as well. On the signing matter, Sandrobas and my style really are pretty easy to distinguish howver if you see a post that's not signed just assume it's Sandroba because I'm trying to do that every time and will do an EBWOP if I forget to sign my post. If the stuff that was presented is a null tell then what are you basing your opinion on VE on? That he isn't scum hunting? @VE: Why are you voting for me? Don't answer this anymore I saw your unvote. @phagga: I guess you didn't see Bluelightz play in DFM 2. @Snarfs: Where are the posts that show marvelosity soft defending players? @Snarfs: Re: Radfield - yes! @Toad: I don't know if you know this but using meta to try and wrangle someone's play style is bad. Unless there is a radical change in a specific thing a person always does comparing activity between games is a null tell. It just promotes tunneling. @Radfield: Well you sure made it back in time with a thoughtful little post. But I don't agree with "dont lynch a strong Town player" theory. We lynch people that are shown to have scummy behavior regardless of past performance or reputation. None of us as far as I know, know each others' alignment. So just assuming that stance is ridiculous. I also don't buy that you didn't really want to lynch VE. If VE was at 5 votes and made that same post would you really have showed up to stop the wagon? @VE: Maybe when you were doing whatever is you do you missed the posts where I said there have been many games where I just sit back and chill out on early in the game. If that is a good enough reason to vote for me then maybe you should vote for some other players who have done less than I have. ##vote: Radfield I'm not buying his recanting of the vote on VE. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:46 Forumite wrote: At least a lot of players are here. I still want MrZentor to die, especially after his listpost, I don´t want him to go out and provide us with a lurker to lynch. Barring that, do we no-lynch, or lynch snarfs or marvel? Forumite WHY would scum enter the game voting for themselves? I get that you don't like my reasoning for thinking they wouldn't, but why WOULD scum do that? I can't make sense of it from a scum perspective. To be honest, I didn't like his "to-do list" post either, considering the late hour it comes off as scum trying to appear active...but I still can't make sense of that first action at all, help me out bro. Out of the options present, I prefer no-lynch... ##Unvote: Sbrubbles ##Vote: No Lynch | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:38 Snarfs wrote: I think I'd be fine with a no lynch in this situation as well. EBWOP: To clarify - lynch marv > no lynch > lynch Zentor (in my mind). | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
However, VE is not up for lynch right now and you are voting a no-lynch Ace --- Toad | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Forumite WHY would scum enter the game voting for themselves? I get that you don't like my reasoning for thinking they wouldn't, but why WOULD scum do that? I can't make sense of it from a scum perspective. To be honest, I didn't like his "to-do list" post either, considering the late hour it comes off as scum trying to appear active...but I still can't make sense of that first action at all, help me out bro. Out of the options present, I prefer no-lynch... ##Unvote: Sbrubbles ##Vote: No Lynch Why shouldn´t he vote himself as scum? It seems to give the right result. Several people have mentioned that it´s a crazy thing to do as scum, but if it makes him look town, then it IS a good thing to do as scum. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:49 SamuelLJackson wrote: you do realize it's only 10 mins left until deadline ace? I just got home what do you want me to do, get myself mod killed? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
I'm going to be the guy that yells postgame "TOLD YA" | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
catching up | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote MrZentor Here's a post I wrote earlier today on why I think your case was forced. Alright ##Vote MrZentor On April 22 2012 10:42 MrZentor wrote: *sigh* I'm going to have to make a really long post.1 His first post is just him taking a jab at Ace and stating the obvious that should be done without saying.2 You and Prphlz waste a bunch more space over that discussion of the hydra signing its posts; this shouldn't happen.3 All this post does is lay suspicion on VE.4 Wasting time doing stupid stuff..5 The only useful question is the last one.6 He then attacks me for answering the only question that wasn't ridiculously irrelevant.7 He accuses me of not being constructive after wasting a ton of space on why the hydra should sign its posts! 8 He's also saying that "I just made a picture, how's that dull?" isn't a stupid question.9 He seems like the type of scum that spends all of its time on answering obvious questions and asking useless ones; it's the type that appears pro town if you skim, but if you read carefully, it's all useless fluff.10 I'm not certain he is scum yet, but I am amazed at how scummy somebody can seem within the first four hours of the game. 1: This is actually the most important part, he seems very reluctant and bothered with having to explain his scum read. With the fervor he's been showing so far it looks like that was actually mostly for show and he doesn't want to push me at all. 2: This is misrepresentation, I'm not taking a jab at Ace at all, I'm predicting something and then I'm arguing with it. It was the first post of the game, isn't this a pretty good way to start out? Then he complains that hydra signing "should be done without saying", while he's saying in this post that he actually wanted to say that! So when I say it then it's fluff, but when he says it then it's alright? 3: This seems so incredibly forced, why is he complaining about some clarifying discussion in the first 5 posts of a game? Is he even complaining about me, because I actually didn't start the discussion, Forumite did. 4: I actually didn't mean anything by it but lets run with the "I was trying to lay suspicion on VisceraEyes" idea. So what if I were even trying that? He did just about the same thing himself when he called out for VisceraEyes and Bluelightz presence. 5: It seems like you're trying to remember how the hell you find scum and then you just default to a crappy PBP analysis. So what if I posted a dumb picture? 6: You yourself admitted that your self-vote was just to get responses (and specifically from me), and now a question where I'm responding to it is dumb? How is it dumb to ask you how two players that you want to show up will make the thread better, shouldn't we all strive to make the thread better? You are desperately grasping for whatever the fuck here. 7: So what? How does this make me scum? You are just describing stuff here, while enforcing the notion that I am only doing stupid stuff. 8: This is so hilarious considering that you yourself posted that you wanted to talk about that! You know who started the whole hydra discussion? Forumite did that! Why are you attacking me for discussing random stuff during the first five posts of a game? Jesus christ you're grasping here. 9: So what? 10: This seems so very much like he's just decided that I'm scum and then he says I'm the kind of scum who does something he thinks I'm doing in the thread. There's nothing here to show that I'm scum, he's just saying I'm the kind of scum who does what he says I'm doing. Like he had the conclusion (I'm scum) before the "argument" (I'm asking and answering questions). 11: You're amazed but you don't think to question it? I know that a bunch of you would say "he's attracting too much attention to be scum" and ordinarily that would be a valid point, but I think that it looks like he's faking the aggressiveness and the attention hogging is just a by product that he didn't care much about. Last time MrZentor was scum was in Death Factory Mafia 2 where he was caught by this analysis and it's only logical that he would try not to fall into that same behavior again. I'd like to hear MrZentor explain what the hell got into him the first two pages of this game. @Ace What do you think? As of now MrZentor blatantly ignores my question about why he decided to be all piss and vinegar in the beginning of this game. It seems forced as I think townies would either just answer the question or attack me for tunneling or whatever. I have no idea why anyone would just ignore me. Note to self: Next game you start out by self voting and saying that you're town for auto-confirmation. | ||
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