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On June 08 2010 04:02 cgrinker wrote:I'm going to need more than an Offical Kespa statement. Until I hear it through your webcam it like two in the morning I don't believe it.
hahaha
On June 08 2010 11:31 JWD wrote:UpMagic and Hwasin never seemed like the type 
Yeah, I agree. Guess it just goes to show that first impressions (especially on tv) don't count for much.
Sad about UpMaGic. Was a big fan.
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On June 08 2010 21:11 Subversive wrote:
Sad about UpMaGic. Was a big fan.
Me too, he was an entertaining player to follow, not to mention he was flash's druggie counterpart.
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i always hated the dam twins. i always knew they were faking something, even yellow faked to be real yellow.
and screw yall who say BW will die. BW is the sht. dam sc2 hype people.
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I've mixed feelings about this. First of all I think KeSPa (fuck KeSPa on all other aspects but this) needed to put an example and be really hard with punishing those players. On the other hand, that punishment is fucking hard..
No more savior luxury etc in progaming-_______-;;;...
HwaSin... Upmagic T_T.
Oh well, hopefully we can see them in Starcraft 2. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
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Really big names involved, this is so sad...
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Type-b was a sellout too I still remember his breakout games vs players like Stork.
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what happens with trophies like OSL , MSL ??
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So many good players gone, and for what? Greed :<
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Pro gaming got punched in the face, and now in the stomach. Hope this gets the message across.
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Wow, it'll probably be almost impossible for these people to find any kind of jobs.
Starcraft is so popular in Korea that I doubt they could even get into a university without that university getting tons of shit from the media. Any progaming is certainly out of the question, and most companies probably wouldn't hire a progamer since they don't particularly have any transferable skills.
Wonder what these people can do now, it's pretty much like you'd have to leave the country. Hopefully no one does anything stupid and suicides or something. =\ But like I could see it happening, that is such a rough situation to be in.
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omg match fixing it's a computer game!!!!
(still life or death or gg)
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On June 09 2010 01:53 monstar123 wrote:
what happens with trophies like OSL , MSL ??
I'll take those if they dont mind  .
Those might be removed as well.
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On June 09 2010 05:13 danbel1005 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2010 01:53 monstar123 wrote:
what happens with trophies like OSL , MSL ?? I'll take those if they dont mind . Those might be removed as well.
OSL and MSL are supervised by OGN and MBC respectively. They are recognized by Kespa.
But there is no point in removing their OSL and MSL titles in my opinion. What would that achieve anyway?
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I'm genuinely sad to know that some of my favorite players (sAviOr in particular) are being banned from ever playing again. And it's also slightly absurd that they're being stripped of their past achievements. I really don't get why they would go through the logistical trouble of doing this since being permanently banned should surely be enough of a deterrent and precedent. Although it does fit perfectly with the way these tournaments are being run these days.
Really though, putting the players aside for a minute, I'm dying to know who else was involved and exactly how this scheme came to be. We're all apparently perfectly content with blaming the progamers but I honestly cannot believe that it was all as simple as this would suggest. There's also the fact that these players are all very young, around their 20s, and might 1) not have fully comprehended the danger they were in when they made the deals, and 2) surely could not have set up a scheme like this by themselves or without support from other people around them, possibly figures like team managers.
I can't wait for these people to start talking about what really happened, who was promised what, whether they were being coaxed into agreeing, if there was just money or perhaps they were being threatened by an organized group, and so go on. Because, you know, I wasn't there. I don't know all the facts. Details matter, and there are probably some important ones that I'm missing.
I'd love to just condemn them for being utter idiots (which they probably were) but I won't do it until I have a bit more factual information about how this thing really worked.
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I feel like changing my user name...
On June 09 2010 04:40 Korynne wrote:
Any progaming is certainly out of the question
Is progaming really out of the question? I know the matter is serious, but since SCII probably won't be organized by KeSPA, doesn't that make it at least a possibility for them?
(I'm not defending them, mind you. I'd rather not see any of these players on television ever again, I'd just like to know.)
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Protoss confirmed as race for real men?
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Seeing UpMagiC and sAviOr on this list really hurts, even tho i really stopped following the korean bw scene :'(
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Adun is proud fellow brethren!
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It seems the Protoss is extremely honorable and plays for Auir rather than money. Unfortunately, I bet theres more players that will show up. I guess they could still play Starcraft II though because Kespa does not own the rights to it.
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Although they might not get jobs in progaming... it seems likely that Kespa won't be involved in SC2 in the future so they won't really have the ability to enforce this.
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