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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2012 16:54 GMT
#241
On July 13 2012 01:39 talismania wrote:
@austin you need to compare what you said not just to what marv said, but also to what mattchew said. I don't see what you added as any different from what mattchew said, just more longwinded.

now to digest the rest of that post...


Here's Matt's post
On July 12 2012 10:46 Mattchew wrote:
Also, talis has the worst plan ever with his 3 people thing. That just allows people to half ass push some stupid reads and then connections theories run wild and everything turns to shit

Gonna try not to poke at this past this post, because this isn't helpful and I still think that both stages of your plan are bad. Matt is worried about (1) stupid reads and (2) connection theories. Although my (2) is slightly like Matt's (1), I'm worried about (1) shitting up the thread later with whether not posting 3 cases is scummy and (2) voting based on suspicions quantity, not quality.
Fe fi fo fum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 12 2012 16:55 GMT
#242
On July 13 2012 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:

What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something?



No, he doesn't have to be townie.
But I initially voted for him cause he didn't post anything, then he posted the metagame info and I found it good enough to unvote him.

I remember sciberbia for more concise, compact posts, and I remember him posting really early. He already explained why he didn't post early in this game, so what remains are the posts that subjectively look different to me. But I prefer to not rely heavily on meta, my play changes often aswell and I don't have as much experience.


Anyway, I don't like Matt's filter, it looks like he posts rather meaningless content, no active scumhunting in it, rather commenting on what other players already said.

He also acts a little differently than in LVI.

i dont think i've ever seen a game where matt posts meaningful content or does active scumhunting.

well, active scumhunting that isn't stupid.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 16:56 GMT
#243
Early leader in the scummy stakes: Vivax.

Let's talk about metaaaaaaa.

On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote:

Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one.
s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.

That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style.


Vivax says sciberbia doesn't look good for meta, also quotes s0lstices meta reason on scib. Gut feeling/overall style, more talking about meta.

On July 13 2012 01:49 Vivax wrote:

No, he doesn't have to be townie.
But I initially voted for him cause he didn't post anything, then he posted the metagame info and I found it good enough to unvote him.

I remember sciberbia for more concise, compact posts, and I remember him posting really early. He already explained why he didn't post early in this game, so what remains are the posts that subjectively look different to me. But I prefer to not rely heavily on meta, my play changes often aswell and I don't have as much experience.


Anyway, I don't like Matt's filter, it looks like he posts rather meaningless content, no active scumhunting in it, rather commenting on what other players already said.

He also acts a little differently than in LVI.


Reason for unvoting strongandbig: because he talked about meta. Then talks more about sciberbia's meta. Later in the post he talks about Matt's meta.

But in the middle of this post he says "but I prefer to not rely heavily on meta". That's literally all he's posted about! Scummy contradiction, heyo!

##Vote: Vivax
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
July 12 2012 16:59 GMT
#244
Marvellosity you have made so much sense so far that it makes me smile
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
July 12 2012 17:00 GMT
#245
##Vote Vivax
Sucker for nostalgia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:00 GMT
#246
<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2012 17:03 GMT
#247
Marv do you think Vivax is scum or just being Vivax?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2012 17:04 GMT
#248
EBWOP: Sounds dumb with your vote on him, but it's a serious question.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:05 GMT
#249
I don't vote someone for being themselves.

See LVI where I did not vote Vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22098 Posts
July 12 2012 17:10 GMT
#250
Am i relying heavily on meta like you want to suggest?

I'm looking at the general purpose of matt's posts. I voted for a lurking player until he unlurked with a substantial post.

I don't have the feeling that I have ignored the posted content to solely make cases based on meta. It plays a role, but not a big one.

Also respect for using 'being oneself' argument in a game that's all about written self-presentation. Clearly shows you're a vet, marv. I'm sure you know the true self of every player you've watched so far.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:18 GMT
#251
How would you say Matt is acting differently to LVI?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 12 2012 17:20 GMT
#252
On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax


the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 12 2012 17:43 GMT
#253
Marv I want to disagree with you so bad, but I was wrong about something JUST LIKE this is MTG mafia... hmm

I don't like the way sciberbia has been posting... it all seems forced as hell like the way he says

On July 12 2012 13:31 sciberbia wrote:
gonzaw asked for some thoughts on Risen, strongandbig, and Mattchew. Obviously there is not much to go on yet, but here are my thoughts so far


He clarifies that he's only saying this cause gonzaw asked, kinda reads to me like hes paranoid about not answering a question in the thread
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22098 Posts
July 12 2012 17:46 GMT
#254
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=129423

Matt's filter in LVI.

You accused me of using too much meta, so feel free to read and quote it for yourself.
Weird that you asked about it cause you were in the same game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#255
On July 13 2012 02:46 Vivax wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=129423

Matt's filter in LVI.

You accused me of using too much meta, so feel free to read and quote it for yourself.
Weird that you asked about it cause you were in the same game.


That's not how it works. You claim he is posting differently. Now explain it to me and the rest of the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#256
On July 13 2012 02:43 Mattchew wrote:
Marv I want to disagree with you so bad, but I was wrong about something JUST LIKE this is MTG mafia... hmm

I don't like the way sciberbia has been posting... it all seems forced as hell like the way he says

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 13:31 sciberbia wrote:
gonzaw asked for some thoughts on Risen, strongandbig, and Mattchew. Obviously there is not much to go on yet, but here are my thoughts so far


He clarifies that he's only saying this cause gonzaw asked, kinda reads to me like hes paranoid about not answering a question in the thread


What do you want to disagree with?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 12 2012 17:55 GMT
#257
I've had experience with Mattchew being scum, as we were both godfathers who flipped vigis in some other game I can't remember the name of. I think he's WAY, WAY, WAY more active and useful this game ALREADY than he was that game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 17:56 GMT
#258
that'd be LIII, Risen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
July 12 2012 17:58 GMT
#259
On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax


the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said?

I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy?
Sucker for nostalgia
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 12 2012 18:04 GMT
#260
if you mean this

On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:
Vivax I am very confused as the reasoning behind your voting so far. Why did you choose strongandbig initially?

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote:
@ NSH

It's cause of a habit. I just tend to expect links in underlined words <_<.

Back to the topic:

##unvote strongandbig
Very informative post about marv there.

Wanted to vote Milton next but he posted.
He tries to make himself pretty transparent by posting his games. It's a good sign, but nothing decisive.

Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one.
s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.

That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style.


What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something?

What are the differences in sciberbia you talk about?



then I don't see you calling him suspicious, but just asking him questions. Implied suspicion I'll give you, but not calling him out as being suspicious by any means.

Also good to know you're just as angry as in bastard 2 :-)
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