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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 13:33 GMT
#1103
Why do i have to play with these fucking clowns who refuse to play the game?
Someone needs to start banning these idiots who straight out say they will not play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:29 GMT
#1106
In the last game JonnyLaw was [u]literally sure BigDad was mafia on D1 yet at the end of the day he had two other candidates for lynch which he debated between. Goddamn suki, why are you not thinking?

Do you seriously think JonnyLaw did nothing on D1 than bussed his whole team? Before voting zarepath he has done nothing but talked about kush and Balla. Do you really think that's what JonnyLaw did as mafia?[/b]
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:32 GMT
#1108
Why would Balla say his scumbuddy JonnyLaw looks bad? Why not say zarepath (or someone who is actually up for lynch) looks bad? Artanis was no way getting lynched on D1 and Balla knew it, because i defended Artanis. Balla also knew Crossfire lynch was not gonna get through, so why would he basically accuse his scumbuddy and another two guys who are not gonna get lynched for sure?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:33 GMT
#1110
On January 22 2014 23:29 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nevermind seems like JonnlyLaw has a hard tme keeping his thoughts together as town.


Yeah.. So why the single minded focus on Balla?

Jonny hasn't commented on other people really, aside from the ones that I pointed out. In my game where he was town, he threw out accusations all over the place. Also his cases on people were a lot more involved. In this game he's just like 'Balla is scum I called it give me town cred.'

So your case on JonnyLaw is that he is playing good but he does not feel confident in pushing lynches.
Pretty damn weak suki...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:34 GMT
#1113
On January 22 2014 23:32 suki wrote:
JonnyLaw should be all over the place but he's not.

I find it really weird that he had such a strong scumread on Balla from day 1 and pushed it so hard. It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense that he would stay on Zarepath when Balla agreed with it, or think Crossfire looked bad when that was Balla's biggest case. No?

Seriously, read this sentence over and over again.
It makes absolutely no sense...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:34 GMT
#1114
On January 22 2014 23:34 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In the last game JonnyLaw was [u]literally sure BigDad was mafia on D1 yet at the end of the day he had two other candidates for lynch which he debated between. Goddamn suki, why are you not thinking?

Do you seriously think JonnyLaw did nothing on D1 than bussed his whole team? Before voting zarepath he has done nothing but talked about kush and Balla. Do you really think that's what JonnyLaw did as mafia?


The way you worded this sounds like you're assuming kush is scum
[/b]
I am talking to suki, who assumes kush is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:36 GMT
#1117
On January 22 2014 23:35 suki wrote:
Wow really?

I don't think JonnyLaw is playing good. I don't understand his aggression on Balla, I don't see how town Jonny could be so damn sure that Balla is scum, that's the entire point.

I'm getting tired of you calling me bad every time I say anything rayn.

In your theory JonnyLaw has only accused Balla and kush on D1. So fuck yes Jonnylaw is playing his best game ever or Jonnylaw is playing his worst game ever.

Which is it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:38 GMT
#1119
On January 22 2014 23:35 suki wrote:
Wow really?

I don't think JonnyLaw is playing good. I don't understand his aggression on Balla, I don't see how town Jonny could be so damn sure that Balla is scum, that's the entire point.

I'm getting tired of you calling me bad every time I say anything rayn.

The only one in this game who disagreed with what JonnyLaw said about Balla was you. I noticed the exact same thing he did, i just digged elsewhere too. I even had abot 20 post argument about it with you!?!?!?

How is it "weird". Balla was playing 100% to his scum meta. You not noticing it does not make it any less true.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:42 GMT
#1122
Here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 21 2014 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does his tone differ from the games he has been mafia in?

On January 21 2014 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually i think Balla's tone is far closer to his scumgame than his town game. As town he tries to get shit done, as scum he is more interested in agreeing/disagreeing with what other people say about other people.

On January 21 2014 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 23:13 suki wrote:
Balla's early game as town is a lot more questioning and posturing and not really scum hunting. In his mafia game he locked onto a target early and stayed on him.

And in this game all he has done is defending me. Ha has not really asked anyone enything, besides some half-arsed crap i don't even know what's that gonna accomplish. Then there is a case on Crossfire, in which, again, he talks more about me than Crossfire..

On January 21 2014 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then we have a totally different opinion on Balla's town/scum play or you are lying.

On January 21 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we have a totally differing opinion on what's questioning and posturing..

On January 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i just looked at his past games and:
  • town games - 19 and 23 pages of filter, a lot of oneliners, questions many people about his concerns, is clearly trying to find out what people think about what he thinks is important
  • scum game - 7 pages of filter, more big irrelevant posts that are inclined to talk about what X thinks of Y and how it's right/wrong. no real pushing of his own ideas.


If i don't even think about the motivation behind Balla's posts in this game and just look at what he has said it looks exactly like he played mafia and nothing like his town play to me.

This is exactly what JonnyLaw has been saying all game.
Why am i not mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:45 GMT
#1123
On January 22 2014 23:40 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 23:35 suki wrote:
Wow really?

I don't think JonnyLaw is playing good. I don't understand his aggression on Balla, I don't see how town Jonny could be so damn sure that Balla is scum, that's the entire point.

I'm getting tired of you calling me bad every time I say anything rayn.

In your theory JonnyLaw has only accused Balla and kush on D1. So fuck yes Jonnylaw is playing his best game ever or Jonnylaw is playing his worst game ever.

Which is it?


Why the hell would town Jonny not doubt his reads on Zarepath and Crossfire if his number one scum is also on them?

Okay this is a legit question.
Yes, there is something weird in JonnyLaw. It's the way he expresses his suspicion on Balla.

Like if i was him and people would not listen to my case on someone i think is mafia, instead of sheeping on someone else i would try to convince the people who are actually able to push lynched and who are listened.

I don't understand why he didn't go;
"hey rayn, look, i am pretty sure Balla is mafia for X, Y and Z. Could you look at his filter and especially these things"
instead he does:
"boohoo, noone listens to me, i sheep onto X but Balla still mafia"

And that IS weird. I give you that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:49 GMT
#1125
My problem is in the last game he did exactly that with BigDad, he was mafia, and JonnyLaw was town.

He basically made a case on BigDad (it was also quote accurate), never voted for him, never said anything about him any more and went on discussing Dragoon and some other guy who was town too.

Then again, in PYP he had an argument with Mocsta who was his scumbuddy and it looks dangerouly like this game, both just call each other scum for basically no real reason and it's an OMGUS-fest that ends up nowhere (no votes or real case).

Okay, not so sure JonnyLaw is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:51 GMT
#1128
zarepath explain how JonnyLaw agree with Balla on you? He voted you before Balla did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:55 GMT
#1132
On January 22 2014 06:43 JonnyLaw wrote:
Yeah, fine who do you want to lynch then? I'm taking a short break to reevaluate and gather my thoughts.

On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.



Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

This is really bad. Really bad.
He's had one clear scumread all the game. When something unexpected happens he has no idea what to do and then calls Balla's posting town?!?! But it was scummy before? And after. lol.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:56 GMT
#1133
No fuck, that's a clear contradiction. JonnyLaw has to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 14:57 GMT
#1134
There is no way town!JL agrees with Balla's posting fitting his town meta when all he has done in this game is arguing the opposite.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 15:02 GMT
#1135
On January 22 2014 03:59 JonnyLaw wrote:
I dunno maybe he's frustrated he got no support after putting a lot of effort into a case. Something you did not do.

Hell if it were up to me I'd lynch balla today but that doesn't seem likely. I've played 3 games with him in the last 2-3 months and this is not how town balla should be playing. So, when something's not working find another scummer to lynch. And I think Rayn did exactly that when he found Zarepath.

On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.

Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

no no no.
This does not make any sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 15:07 GMT
#1138
On January 23 2014 00:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Town changes there minds, nothing new about that

Only clowns like you do that for no reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:40 GMT
#1145
suki we are having a healthy happy argument.
not a crappy one like i usually have with people.
i am fighting against it again as it ruins games.

<3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:41 GMT
#1146
VE who else than Jonny? Do you believe in "kush is mafia" theory?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:47 GMT
#1149
yeah i have been thinking that too. Balla oddly defended bum and i still think bum is not playing to his town meta at all. he's overly aggressive for no reason, like.. he is angry over something he should not be.

that's why i wanted him to do analysis on voting things, which of course he has not done.
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