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[SPL] CJ Entus vs Woongjin Stars - Page 12

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jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
December 27 2011 07:35 GMT
#221
Ah shit, I totally had forgotten this match :/

TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 27 2011 07:35 GMT
#222
On December 27 2011 16:34 bearbuddy wrote:
Light didn't even have the worker saturation to start 3rd. Why should he? He was actually behind in supply even after the 2fac push. He lost when his contain broke. It is unfortunate that it was cross position.



He would've had time to sit back, defend, and saturate up three bases while Movie rebuilt his natural and prepared for what could be a possible doom push considering he still hadn't scouted.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 27 2011 07:36 GMT
#223
On December 27 2011 16:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 16:31 figq wrote:
On December 27 2011 16:30 Xpeijz wrote:
Seriously wtf... I'm not totally up to date with these builds but wasn't Light seriously supposed to win that? I mean, 1 gate core -> nex -> robo and only then more gates.
He took Movie's expansion with early push. I don't quite get how he loses then, looked like worse macro (+ he lost some to reaver shuttle harass, but I don't think that was what determined it).

You can still lose from there as Terran if toss keeps its probes alive and can break out in some reasonable time period or do dmg with reaver. 2 fact needs to do more damage than just killing the nexus to be "supposed to win". Who lost more workers? Light to reaver harrass or Movie to the 2 fact?
However, the replay now shows Movie actually lost all his expo probes, fighting the tanks.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
December 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#224
why didnt he bring 1 or 2 scvs? couldve been the difference of the game.
Woo Jung Ho
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#225
Bless you, whoever sneezed.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
December 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#226
On December 27 2011 16:35 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 16:34 bearbuddy wrote:
Light didn't even have the worker saturation to start 3rd. Why should he? He was actually behind in supply even after the 2fac push. He lost when his contain broke. It is unfortunate that it was cross position.



He would've had time to sit back, defend, and saturate up three bases while Movie rebuilt his natural and prepared for what could be a possible doom push considering he still hadn't scouted.


Except that the 3rd is over the ledge, and not easily defended. Kinda hard to take when he has fewer forces.
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#227
On December 27 2011 16:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 16:31 figq wrote:
On December 27 2011 16:30 Xpeijz wrote:
Seriously wtf... I'm not totally up to date with these builds but wasn't Light seriously supposed to win that? I mean, 1 gate core -> nex -> robo and only then more gates.
He took Movie's expansion with early push. I don't quite get how he loses then, looked like worse macro (+ he lost some to reaver shuttle harass, but I don't think that was what determined it).

You can still lose from there as Terran if toss keeps its probes alive and can break out in some reasonable time period or do dmg with reaver. 2 fact needs to do more damage than just killing the nexus to be "supposed to win". Who lost more workers? Light to reaver harrass or Movie to the 2 fact?



Movie from the 2 fact if I recall correctly. But light cut a lot of workers for the push in the first place so the impact was probably as great.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#228
On December 27 2011 16:36 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 16:33 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 27 2011 16:31 figq wrote:
On December 27 2011 16:30 Xpeijz wrote:
Seriously wtf... I'm not totally up to date with these builds but wasn't Light seriously supposed to win that? I mean, 1 gate core -> nex -> robo and only then more gates.
He took Movie's expansion with early push. I don't quite get how he loses then, looked like worse macro (+ he lost some to reaver shuttle harass, but I don't think that was what determined it).

You can still lose from there as Terran if toss keeps its probes alive and can break out in some reasonable time period or do dmg with reaver. 2 fact needs to do more damage than just killing the nexus to be "supposed to win". Who lost more workers? Light to reaver harrass or Movie to the 2 fact?
However, the replay now shows Movie actually lost all his expo probes, fighting the tanks.

Movie was still ahead on supply and said in the interview he knew he just had to survive and he would win.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
December 27 2011 07:38 GMT
#229
On December 27 2011 16:34 Xpeijz wrote:
Lights 2fac timing already seemed a bit late to me. He massed up a bit and that let Movies 2nd and 3rd gates warp in. God that was painful.


Ya looked super late to me also.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 27 2011 07:38 GMT
#230
zero
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 07:39:04
December 27 2011 07:38 GMT
#231
Zero out for Stars
vs T
Leta <3
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
December 27 2011 07:38 GMT
#232
Zero against....Leta!

This will be interesting.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#233
zero! iu! leta!
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#234
leta v zero is a pretty sweet matchup
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#235
Zero VS Leta for Set 2
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#236
Zero Leta epic :D
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#237
So Zero for the Stars vs Leta for CJ.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#238
Leta vs Zero is alway fun to watch.
moochu
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia374 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#239
damn i want woongjin to win but it's hard to cheer against leta
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#240
TvZ!! And a potentially good one too.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
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