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Basically there was 2 ways I had planned to react to your answers
If you said Scum I would force you to do some work and show me. If you said Town I would ask why you were spending your time questioning town reads on connections to unflipped players.
Your response was like a total sneaky scum response. "I think you are town, but a lot of people think you could be scum with FT so I will base it off of that and then maybe I am open to push you later"
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I'm not that worried, I think there genuinely could be some scum agenda there between you and Pandain.
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On September 30 2013 21:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 21:35 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not that worried, I think there genuinely could be some scum agenda there between you and Pandain. Pandain was on my scumteam but I fired him for aids and bads. (see personality mafia, I have a reason to think pandain is awful as scum). I skimmed through it. He claimed he could take away people's powers and then said that Kurumi was just a VT now.
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On September 30 2013 21:46 Palmar wrote: Anyway, I can convince you I'm town later.
Can you give me your top 8 townreads?
anything's possible
WoS S&B Koshi CR Oats Ve(maybe less so)
Those people I think are fairly safe.
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CR is mostly just a gut read. I could be mistaken there.
S&B just makes a lot of good posts and has been carefully reading the thread. Aside from his posts on you I think he even brought up a decent point about my inconsistency with the random lynch.
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S0lstice posted in here earlier as replacement I believe so RoL is out
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I have a more difficult time convincing myself of my own reads than I think I do of convincing others so it's difficult for me to justify lynching Palmar with all of these scummy lurkers running about.
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Actually would like to see some analysis on Rayn from Palmar. I agree that I don't know what Rayn was talking about with Palmar's stance on Yamato.
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Pandain's case on FT was incorrect. BH's case is decent but I really don't see any reason to believe that FT is just incapable of posting thought processes as scum, he's done it before. Palmar's case proves that FT is illogical. WoS case says that FT shuts down the RNG topic but what he was saying seems pretty reasonable, It didn't look like Palmar was going to create a website or anything so it really didn't seem likely to happen. BH town read post is strange, will have to check the context.
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Rayn who should we lynch?
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Wow this game is slow. Hello it is I, Grackaroni! The cop (!). . . Maybe. Palmar is likely scum. Why? Poor scum hunting! DISQUS.
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On October 01 2013 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 09:55 Grackaroni wrote: Wow this game is slow. Hello it is I, Grackaroni! The cop (!). . . Maybe. Palmar is likely scum. Why? Poor scum hunting! DISQUS. I don't understand this point on Palmar. How do you mean "poor scum hunting"? Poor as in not making sense? Poor as in he's been wrong? Please clarify your point, so that we can further discuss your suspicion of him, because presently I'm town on Palmar. Poor as in painting players as scum while being unable to conclude that the things they have done isn't likely to come from the player as town.
You think he's town due to activity I'm guessing? I'm going to try to avoid spamming up the thread too much more for a while until we get some new info from the lurkers.
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Going to ##Unvote Hiro Protagonist . His filter wasn't actually as useless as I remembered it and I completely misread the one scum team "scum slip." He wasn't even suspicious of VE so it couldn't have been serious.
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lol you didn't have to say it.
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On October 01 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 10:58 austinmcc wrote: Did koshi do something particularly interesting between partway through D1, like...pg 52/53ish and the start of D2 that I need to look at? Claim cop several times. I did tell him not to check me.
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it's probably for the best. Now the other cop knows for sure to protect Koshi and he was going to be shot if any of the 6 scum players are paying attention the thread.
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What do you think about what I said on Palmar, he's the only active player I see right now with a good case for being scum. Maybe Rayn but he just doesn't care this game and I have no idea what that means for him. If it's not Palmar it's probably going to be one of the lurkers lynched.
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On October 01 2013 12:46 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:35 Grackaroni wrote: What do you think about what I said on Palmar, he's the only active player I see right now with a good case for being scum. Maybe Rayn but he just doesn't care this game and I have no idea what that means for him. If it's not Palmar it's probably going to be one of the lurkers lynched. I don't do anything with that. At this point I don't think we can go "there's probably an active player that is scum, therefore we'll lynch the likeliest of the active players to be scum." You're making weird assumptions if you want to vote Palmar because there are PROBABLY active scum/an active scum. Especially D2, I'm not voting based on that and I don't think it's worth much. rayn's filter doesn't make me warm and fuzzy, but doesn't trip anything super major. I got paranoid that he was focused on how people can't make townreads given that there are two scum teams, but he didn't post about that as much as I remembered. No I mean what I wrote about Palmar on page 7 of my filter. Palmar being the most likely active player to be scum is just my opinion, not why I think he is scum.
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On October 01 2013 12:59 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 01 2013 12:46 austinmcc wrote:On October 01 2013 12:35 Grackaroni wrote: What do you think about what I said on Palmar, he's the only active player I see right now with a good case for being scum. Maybe Rayn but he just doesn't care this game and I have no idea what that means for him. If it's not Palmar it's probably going to be one of the lurkers lynched. I don't do anything with that. At this point I don't think we can go "there's probably an active player that is scum, therefore we'll lynch the likeliest of the active players to be scum." You're making weird assumptions if you want to vote Palmar because there are PROBABLY active scum/an active scum. Especially D2, I'm not voting based on that and I don't think it's worth much. rayn's filter doesn't make me warm and fuzzy, but doesn't trip anything super major. I got paranoid that he was focused on how people can't make townreads given that there are two scum teams, but he didn't post about that as much as I remembered. No I mean what I wrote about Palmar on page 7 of my filter. Palmar being the most likely active player to be scum is just my opinion, not why I think he is scum. I'll read the tail end of Palmar's D1 more closely, but so long as he was still vocal about being down with a Yamato lynch while making some of the statements you pull out, I'm okay with him not jumping harder on other folks. You may think he's scummy for not having a balls-out D1 where you think he's super townie and super scumhunter man, but I don't THINK I recall scum Palmar posting a wishy washy crap. From what I remember of scum Palmar, he does the same thing as normal - picks a target, tunnels target, tries to push lynch on target. So I read those posts on Hiro and FT as being actual thoughts, but not scum flags because (a) I don't think it fits what I've seen from scumPalmar and (b) scumPalmar knows better than to post wishy washy reads. So, overall, I guess just not terribly scummy on Palmar.
He wasn't vocal about anyone at the end of day1. He popped in near the end to say that RoL/FT/Hiro were good lynches, then I said something about how if he wanted one of those people to be lynched in the last 2 hours he would have chosen one and written a case and pushed him hard and then he made another post saying that those 3 + (Yamato/koshi) the two vote leaders were all fine lynches.
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On October 01 2013 13:08 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On October 01 2013 12:59 austinmcc wrote:On October 01 2013 12:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 01 2013 12:46 austinmcc wrote:On October 01 2013 12:35 Grackaroni wrote: What do you think about what I said on Palmar, he's the only active player I see right now with a good case for being scum. Maybe Rayn but he just doesn't care this game and I have no idea what that means for him. If it's not Palmar it's probably going to be one of the lurkers lynched. I don't do anything with that. At this point I don't think we can go "there's probably an active player that is scum, therefore we'll lynch the likeliest of the active players to be scum." You're making weird assumptions if you want to vote Palmar because there are PROBABLY active scum/an active scum. Especially D2, I'm not voting based on that and I don't think it's worth much. rayn's filter doesn't make me warm and fuzzy, but doesn't trip anything super major. I got paranoid that he was focused on how people can't make townreads given that there are two scum teams, but he didn't post about that as much as I remembered. No I mean what I wrote about Palmar on page 7 of my filter. Palmar being the most likely active player to be scum is just my opinion, not why I think he is scum. I'll read the tail end of Palmar's D1 more closely, but so long as he was still vocal about being down with a Yamato lynch while making some of the statements you pull out, I'm okay with him not jumping harder on other folks. You may think he's scummy for not having a balls-out D1 where you think he's super townie and super scumhunter man, but I don't THINK I recall scum Palmar posting a wishy washy crap. From what I remember of scum Palmar, he does the same thing as normal - picks a target, tunnels target, tries to push lynch on target. So I read those posts on Hiro and FT as being actual thoughts, but not scum flags because (a) I don't think it fits what I've seen from scumPalmar and (b) scumPalmar knows better than to post wishy washy reads. So, overall, I guess just not terribly scummy on Palmar. He wasn't vocal about anyone at the end of day1. He popped in near the end to say that RoL/FT/Hiro were good lynches, then I said something about how if he wanted one of those people to be lynched in the last 2 hours he would have chosen one and written a case and pushed him hard and then he made another post saying that those 3 + (Yamato/koshi) the two vote leaders were all fine lynches. Kk. I'll add that to looking at SP tomorrow morning, but...have you played with scum Palmar and did he play at all similarly? If not, then I don't believe him not being vocal and not pushing a particular read are as good of indicators of scum Palmar as you're making them out to be. Scum Palmar just generally cares less about the game because he most enjoys analyzing. that's about as far as I will meta him. I played one game with him when he was scum and he called me scum from my first sentence and popped in to push me for a couple cycles. Another game where he was smurfing scum where he made this bad constructed post and lurked and got called out as the best lynch by foolishness day1.
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