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On October 05 2011 22:21 Alsn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 22:09 .Sic. wrote:On October 05 2011 20:31 fleeze wrote:On October 05 2011 20:14 Hookzqt wrote:Same thing happened to me yesterday, I faced a masters player and he just left after 2 minutes. So I checked his match history and found this: ![[image loading]](http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7850/screenshot2011100513104.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6908/screenshot2011100420233.jpg) I got points however, maybe he forgot to use the hack vs me. those pics don't say ANYTHING. this is absolutely no hack. i bet he is at 0 points in the ladder, you got your points just normal and he doesn't lose any more point when he loses games at 0 point... this is standard. (just checked his stats, he is 9 wins 54 lose at 0 points... Link) seriously, think before posting. especially if you accuse someone of hacking... the hack described in the OP really sucks though... "results disagree" If this guy has more than 0 points and didnt get points deducted for losing, then yes, he is hacking. 1v1 history is only supposed to show ladder wins and losses, meaning he should have gotten points deducted for losing. Actually, it's possible to lose 0 points for a loss even in a proper game. Although this is only possible early in a season's/account's history where your points are much lower than what they "should be" according to your MMR. Has happened to me more than once early on in a season. Edit: To clarify, it would not show (-0) but simply look like a nomal custom game loss. Not saying that that's what happened here, just pointing out that it's possible for a few games until someone's points stabilize.
Dude, you need to read mor ecarefully; I said "if this guy has MORE than 0 pointes and didnt get deducted" then he is hacking. And since he had 900 points, I can assume that he should be losing points.
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On October 08 2011 03:38 .Sic. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 22:21 Alsn wrote:On October 05 2011 22:09 .Sic. wrote:On October 05 2011 20:31 fleeze wrote:On October 05 2011 20:14 Hookzqt wrote:Same thing happened to me yesterday, I faced a masters player and he just left after 2 minutes. So I checked his match history and found this: I got points however, maybe he forgot to use the hack vs me. those pics don't say ANYTHING. this is absolutely no hack. i bet he is at 0 points in the ladder, you got your points just normal and he doesn't lose any more point when he loses games at 0 point... this is standard. (just checked his stats, he is 9 wins 54 lose at 0 points... Link) seriously, think before posting. especially if you accuse someone of hacking... the hack described in the OP really sucks though... "results disagree" If this guy has more than 0 points and didnt get points deducted for losing, then yes, he is hacking. 1v1 history is only supposed to show ladder wins and losses, meaning he should have gotten points deducted for losing. Actually, it's possible to lose 0 points for a loss even in a proper game. Although this is only possible early in a season's/account's history where your points are much lower than what they "should be" according to your MMR. Has happened to me more than once early on in a season. Edit: To clarify, it would not show (-0) but simply look like a nomal custom game loss. Not saying that that's what happened here, just pointing out that it's possible for a few games until someone's points stabilize. Dude, you need to read mor ecarefully; I said "if this guy has MORE than 0 pointes and didnt get deducted" then he is hacking. And since he had 900 points, I can assume that he should be losing points.
No, you're not understanding. It is possible when your MMR is significantly higher than your points that you will earn the maximum number of points for a win (24+24) or lose the minimum (0). Like the guy said though, that typically only happens during the start of a season and is only common for players who are playing at a Grandmaster level. As points approach MMR they'll earn fewer and fewer points for wins (24+24, 23+23, 22+22) and lose more for losses (0, -1, -2, -3).
We already understand that this is a different situation and that these players should be losing points.
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On October 08 2011 03:42 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 03:38 .Sic. wrote:On October 05 2011 22:21 Alsn wrote:On October 05 2011 22:09 .Sic. wrote:On October 05 2011 20:31 fleeze wrote:On October 05 2011 20:14 Hookzqt wrote:Same thing happened to me yesterday, I faced a masters player and he just left after 2 minutes. So I checked his match history and found this: I got points however, maybe he forgot to use the hack vs me. those pics don't say ANYTHING. this is absolutely no hack. i bet he is at 0 points in the ladder, you got your points just normal and he doesn't lose any more point when he loses games at 0 point... this is standard. (just checked his stats, he is 9 wins 54 lose at 0 points... Link) seriously, think before posting. especially if you accuse someone of hacking... the hack described in the OP really sucks though... "results disagree" If this guy has more than 0 points and didnt get points deducted for losing, then yes, he is hacking. 1v1 history is only supposed to show ladder wins and losses, meaning he should have gotten points deducted for losing. Actually, it's possible to lose 0 points for a loss even in a proper game. Although this is only possible early in a season's/account's history where your points are much lower than what they "should be" according to your MMR. Has happened to me more than once early on in a season. Edit: To clarify, it would not show (-0) but simply look like a nomal custom game loss. Not saying that that's what happened here, just pointing out that it's possible for a few games until someone's points stabilize. Dude, you need to read mor ecarefully; I said "if this guy has MORE than 0 pointes and didnt get deducted" then he is hacking. And since he had 900 points, I can assume that he should be losing points. No, you're not understanding. It is possible when your MMR is significantly higher than your points that you will earn the maximum number of points for a win (24+24) or lose the minimum (0). Like the guy said though, that typically only happens during the start of a season and is only common for players who are playing at a Grandmaster level. As points approach MMR they'll earn fewer and fewer points for wins (24+24, 23+23, 22+22) and lose more for losses (0, -1, -2, -3). We already understand that this is a different situation and that these players should be losing points.
Ironically, that just makes me a total idiot for not reading his post carefully enough.
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i doubt hes using a map vision hack, i think your just bitching about it. he 'could' tell that you werent at either close air positions because of no overlord at nat, and you werent at close walk positions because you didnt send scout. that is a could meaning one of the possibilities of his thought processes.
also, he did go far enough in to check for creep.
i could just as easily say that you hack because you sent your natural ovie in exactly the right direction...
i think you just shout hack because you need excuses, most 12year olds do the same so dont worry. you will grow out of it.
but the part about him having a 'results disagree' hack of some sort is plausible.
User was temp banned for this post.
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I might be wrong but doesn't the "Add bookmark" button appear only after a custom game?
Edit: Nvm, I was thinking the stat page just after the game not after clicking it from the match history page.
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On October 09 2011 00:46 CptCutter wrote:
i doubt hes using a map vision hack, i think your just bitching about it. he 'could' tell that you werent at either close air positions because of no overlord at nat, and you werent at close walk positions because you didnt send scout. that is a could meaning one of the possibilities of his thought processes.
also, he did go far enough in to check for creep.
i could just as easily say that you hack because you sent your natural ovie in exactly the right direction...
i think you just shout hack because you need excuses, most 12year olds do the same so dont worry. you will grow out of it.
but the part about him having a 'results disagree' hack of some sort is plausible.
He's not saying the guy is map hacking... Read the OP carefully. He is saying that the guy is using a hack that prevents him from losing any points when he loses by saying "Results Disagree!"
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On October 05 2011 11:47 Amui wrote:
On the bright side that doesn't actually fuck up the ladder as much as drophack because he'll hit a point where he absolutely won't win anything, and won't cause people to lose points. On another hand he's still abusing something or else he's glitched.
Don't worry about that, when that happens he will just start using his third hack.
On October 09 2011 01:18 envisioN . wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 00:46 CptCutter wrote:
i doubt hes using a map vision hack, i think your just bitching about it. he 'could' tell that you werent at either close air positions because of no overlord at nat, and you werent at close walk positions because you didnt send scout. that is a could meaning one of the possibilities of his thought processes.
also, he did go far enough in to check for creep.
i could just as easily say that you hack because you sent your natural ovie in exactly the right direction...
i think you just shout hack because you need excuses, most 12year olds do the same so dont worry. you will grow out of it.
but the part about him having a 'results disagree' hack of some sort is plausible. He's not saying the guy is map hacking... Read the OP carefully. He is saying that the guy is using a hack that prevents him from losing any points when he loses by saying "Results Disagree!"
He is ALSO saying the guy is map hacking. You notice how he proxy gated the correct location without scouting?
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ENDeNigmatic is also using the exploit/hack/cheat/whatever on EU.
You can check his history.. he doesn't ever lose any points, though he is 900pts Platinum.
He was also shouting "fucking maphacker" after he lost.
Proof:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2200670/1/ENDeNigmatic/
EDIT: Any statements by Blizzard yet?
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You'd think these people would lose a real game every once in a while just to not make it so blatantly obvious...
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On October 05 2011 11:54 The_Piper42 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 11:46 R1CH wrote:
Oh Blizzard, still trusting the client to tell them who won? LOOOOOOOOL I'm just waiting for the day Blizzard begs R1CH to come work for them. It would probably a wise decision for Blizzard to hire him.
On October 06 2011 02:10 -orb- wrote:
Blizzard is mentally retarded as usual. I wouldn't go that far. We don't know why Blizzard made certain decisions.
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Just won vs a zerg named ENDeNigmatic on EU, and the result page says "results disagree!" .......Blizzard do something ! ! !
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On October 12 2011 02:18 Zowon wrote:
Just won vs a zerg named ENDeNigmatic on EU, and the result page says "results disagree!" .......Blizzard do something ! ! !
Post about it in the Battle.net Bug Report forum and link the replay so they can investigate.
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On October 12 2011 02:18 Zowon wrote:
Just won vs a zerg named ENDeNigmatic on EU, and the result page says "results disagree!" .......Blizzard do something ! ! !
Same here.
I did report him, I think you should also 
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This was actually around in season 1 back when I still played regularly. Is it making a comeback? I remember it getting pretty prevelant and blizzard banned hammered it pretty quickly.
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He is still cheating with his us account.Played plenty of games 2 days ago.Lost a lot,but he lost like never a point.And yes he has points to lose.(1,2k master rank 14).What a lame cheater..they never give up.
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Do you guys think someone caught (obviously cheating) should be banned from TL?
I do.
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On October 05 2011 11:48 HornSnHaloS wrote:
Match history absolutely does not only show 1v1 ladder games...
Those without points are non ladder games, unless there is something that I'm missing here...
your missing lots of things apparently
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Ok, so I've also played a game against this same player and my replay shows pretty strong proof that this guy does maphack.
The link below should be the download to the replay of him cheating.
http://www.sc2buddy.net/download?replayid=308016&replaykey=406b4bf8a94c727ab60416c7b96daec9
Summary of the game:
I essentially get mad because i've queued up against 6 zergs in a row on tal'darim which is not a strong map for tvz for me. Anyways, I decide to cheese by doing a proxy 2port banshee. He blind counters it and drops a evo chamber as I drop my two ports. I didn't really think anything of it at the time because I thought he might have seen it with a Overlord. Anyways, he goes on a doesn't expand while I take my 2nd. He goes into muta/bling/ling while i go marine tank medivac. Essentially he tries to push in after not trying to harass with mutas because he knows i put up a lot of turrets and I walk over him and expand and then just win. At the end of the game he has no vision of my base at all, and watching the replay you can see that he had no vision of my starports. His mutas go straight to my ports once he stops my push though.
I also had no points won for that match, even though he clearly left earlier. I reported him for cheating to Blizzard, but it seems as there was no response to his actions. Blizzard is a very busy company though, and it is tough to crack down on every cheater.
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Same thing happened to me against him. He starts complaining about me countering his build (and thus hacking) before he even scouts what I have. Then after the win, the game is nullified as a loss and "results disagree." Seems most of his matching are that way according to his game history.
So definitely some sort of hack. Just report it to battle.net along with the rest of us.
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