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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
December 19 2012 03:55 GMT
#321
He knows in his head exactly when to go back to each queen it's like he has several timers going on at once mentally.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#322
On December 19 2012 12:55 ETisME wrote:
you can't argue that JD has better mechanics just because his queen energy is low, he basically took no harassment at all


If you saw the first game he still had low queen energy and he was dealing with warp prism harassment at his third .
When I think of something else, something will go here
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
December 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#323
On December 19 2012 12:55 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
He knows in his head exactly when to go back to each queen it's like he has several timers going on at once mentally.


thats from macroing in broodwar :p
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#324
On December 19 2012 12:52 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 12:51 Glurkenspurk wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Looking at Jaedong's Queens, 15 minutes in and hardly banking energy 0_o


Welcome to ..Every pro level zerg with decent mechanics?


You don't watch enough pro level zergs I can tell .



?? Show me a pro zerg that misses a ton of injects in 15 minutes in games with no drops or harassment.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
December 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#325
On December 19 2012 12:55 ETisME wrote:
you can't argue that JD has better mechanics just because his queen energy is low, he basically took no harassment at all



yeah but if you get harassed and need to fight with your queens then it doesn't really count as lower mechanics, because your queen were just fighting and not injecting.

i.e. your statement makes no sense at all.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
December 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#326
On December 19 2012 12:55 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
He knows in his head exactly when to go back to each queen it's like he has several timers going on at once mentally.


Playing BW on God mode does that to you
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 04:01:00
December 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#327
On December 19 2012 12:47 Djeez wrote:
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On December 19 2012 12:44 lolmlg wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:40 Ryps wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Stephano has managed 14K+ viewers before. Wonder if JD will top that.

If he streamed a bit of BW he might smash that and break the internet

Only because more koreans might watch it. Stream numbers for starcraft have never been impressive compared to the LoL streamers where they get constantly 20k and its just players. But who cares about viewers.

LoL streams are more interesting because they often involve on-the-fly commentary and joking around by the streamer and his teammates. An SC2 stream is more of a hushed spectacle.

And anyway, there's only one LoL streamer who constantly gets 20k viewers, and it's Dyrus. Other members of the same team don't even get viewership like that.


Hum, Oddone has been 30k viewers regularly in the last 2 weeks. Dyrus does not get that many viewers anymore. Wingsofdeath gets 30k as well when Oddone isn't streaming. Anyone doing commentary will get the 30k viewer if he's the only one streaming.

TheOddOne currently has 20k but I rarely see him at that number. I saw Dyrus with that number as recently as a couple of days ago, and every other time he's been online, except for maybe in the first five minutes.

Anyway, you rarely see transference of viewership between streams. You don't really see thousands of people jump onto TT1's stream when he's the only one online. People just choose not to watch. I know I don't watch most of these guys, because their streams don't interest me. With LoL I'll watch Destiny for entertainment and MidSoraka for THE PLAYS but players like TheOddOne can't hold my attention. He just mumbles to himself in monotone for hours.

Edit: And in the end I'm certain I wouldn't watch Jaedong very often either. Sea was fun for a while because he made his stream fun. As I said, Jaedong's stream is a spectacle, but the novelty will wear off.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
December 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#328
On December 19 2012 12:56 Kznn wrote:
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On December 19 2012 12:55 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
He knows in his head exactly when to go back to each queen it's like he has several timers going on at once mentally.


thats from macroing in broodwar :p


The difference from BW pros to non-BW players is most evident in mechanics really. I mean, sub-50% WLR players like HyuN are now top 10-20 players based mainly on their macro skills.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
December 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#329
I love jaedong, but watching his FPV in sc2 after watching it on BW makes it feel like this is a cheap slut.

Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
December 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#330
...did Jaedong lose a drone there?
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
December 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#331
On December 19 2012 12:53 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 12:51 Glurkenspurk wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Looking at Jaedong's Queens, 15 minutes in and hardly banking energy 0_o


Welcome to ..Every pro level zerg with decent mechanics?


Must disagree, I've seen plenty of pros get around 50 energy on three base 15 minutes in. What is also fascinating is how he got to four base simultaneously and really never missed an inject.


That fact that Zerg pros have been consistently winning while banking energy on queens says quite a lot. Hitting every inject should be standard.

I also don't understand why people are freaking out about him not looking at his army during battles; I mean even C tier players in BW did that. I know Jaedong is god, but I think our standards are too low in SC2 from lack of actual good players until KeSPA in recent times.

Really wish JD would stop getting ZvZ on ladder. Everyone plays Zerg.
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 19 2012 03:59 GMT
#332
about to break 10k.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45387 Posts
December 19 2012 03:59 GMT
#333
10,000 viewers Good stuff. Totally worth it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
December 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#334
Never before did I think I would be able to watch Jaedong stream. It's finally here.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
December 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#335
On December 19 2012 12:57 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 12:47 Djeez wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:44 lolmlg wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:40 Ryps wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Stephano has managed 14K+ viewers before. Wonder if JD will top that.

If he streamed a bit of BW he might smash that and break the internet

Only because more koreans might watch it. Stream numbers for starcraft have never been impressive compared to the LoL streamers where they get constantly 20k and its just players. But who cares about viewers.

LoL streams are more interesting because they often involve on-the-fly commentary and joking around by the streamer and his teammates. An SC2 stream is more of a hushed spectacle.

And anyway, there's only one LoL streamer who constantly gets 20k viewers, and it's Dyrus. Other members of the same team don't even get viewership like that.


Hum, Oddone has been 30k viewers regularly in the last 2 weeks. Dyrus does not get that many viewers anymore. Wingsofdeath gets 30k as well when Oddone isn't streaming. Anyone doing commentary will get the 30k viewer if he's the only one streaming.

TheOddOne currently has 20k but I rarely see him at that number.


Right. Well pay more attention because he had 30k viewers on 10+ different occasions in the last 2 weeks, including 35k at one point.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 04:01:53
December 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#336
Reaching 10k is enough to classify this as a success I think

Now those Banelings compensate for last game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12700 Posts
December 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#337
On December 19 2012 12:57 crbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 12:55 ETisME wrote:
you can't argue that JD has better mechanics just because his queen energy is low, he basically took no harassment at all



yeah but if you get harassed and need to fight with your queens then it doesn't really count as lower mechanics, because your queen were just fighting and not injecting.

i.e. your statement makes no sense at all.

as in he didn't take harassment that required more multi tasking. look at his natural queen's energy now
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#338
On December 19 2012 13:00 Djeez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 12:57 lolmlg wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:47 Djeez wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:44 lolmlg wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:40 Ryps wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 19 2012 12:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Stephano has managed 14K+ viewers before. Wonder if JD will top that.

If he streamed a bit of BW he might smash that and break the internet

Only because more koreans might watch it. Stream numbers for starcraft have never been impressive compared to the LoL streamers where they get constantly 20k and its just players. But who cares about viewers.

LoL streams are more interesting because they often involve on-the-fly commentary and joking around by the streamer and his teammates. An SC2 stream is more of a hushed spectacle.

And anyway, there's only one LoL streamer who constantly gets 20k viewers, and it's Dyrus. Other members of the same team don't even get viewership like that.


Hum, Oddone has been 30k viewers regularly in the last 2 weeks. Dyrus does not get that many viewers anymore. Wingsofdeath gets 30k as well when Oddone isn't streaming. Anyone doing commentary will get the 30k viewer if he's the only one streaming.

TheOddOne currently has 20k but I rarely see him at that number.


Right. Well pay more attention because he had 30k viewers on 10+ different occasions in the last 2 weeks, including 35k at one point.

Cool. Must be some random-ass hours then because otherwise I'd see his 30k viewers one of the hundred times I open lolking per day.
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
December 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#339
Haha JD is listening to Japanese rap.

Love M-flo <3
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
December 19 2012 04:03 GMT
#340
I'm supposed to be watching my Lakers play the Bobcats. But the beauty of Jaedong's FPView keeps drawing my attention.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
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