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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 22 2016 06:27 mahrgell wrote: Okay, what we need for the last playday is: Belgium loses by 1 or 2, nobody cares what Italy does Well you want Italy to draw or win otherwise your losing Belgium is out of the tourny  | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 22 2016 07:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Well you want Italy to draw or win otherwise your losing Belgium is out of the tourny Oh true, then they would be 4th :D I just looked if they were better than Albania+Turkey, but getting to 3rd would be needed first :D | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
BCDF: France vs N. Ireland / Wales vs Turkey / Germany vs Slovakia / Croatia vs Iceland or Portugal or Hungary BCEF: France vs Belgium or R. Ireland / Wales vs N. Ireland / Germany vs Slovakia / Croatia vs Iceland or Portugal or Hungary With the second configuration, France could also play Sweden but it would require Sweden to beat Belgium and R. Ireland to beat Italy with 2-3 more goals of difference than Sweden. God this bottom bracket is staaaacked. I put Croatia as one of the favorites, I'm not even surprised they beat Spain, now they have an easy way to the semis and possibly the final! | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 22 2016 10:49 WillyWanker wrote: So now we only have 4 possibilities for the groups 3rds. But the only way the third of group F doesn't qualify would be for Portugal to lose and I don't think it'll happen. So we have: BCDF: France vs N. Ireland / Wales vs Turkey / Germany vs Slovakia / Croatia vs Iceland or Portugal or Hungary BCEF: France vs Belgium or R. Ireland / Wales vs N. Ireland / Germany vs Slovakia / Croatia vs Iceland or Portugal or Hungary With the second configuration, France could also play Sweden but it would require Sweden to beat Belgium and R. Ireland to beat Italy with 2-3 more goals of difference than Sweden. God this bottom bracket is staaaacked. I put Croatia as one of the favorites, I'm not even surprised they beat Spain, now they have an easy way to the semis and possibly the final! It's All about Gareth Wales !!! | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4548 Posts
The reason why a lot of "good" teams are in the bottom bracket, is because they failed to win against ppl from the top bracket The best team so far imo is Croatia, and they're in the top half. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 22 2016 15:15 Laurens wrote: I find the "bottom bracket is stacked" posts funny. The reason why a lot of "good" teams are in the bottom bracket, is because they failed to win against ppl from the top bracket The best team so far imo is Croatia, and they're in the top half. Doesnt matter, its still stacked. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 22 2016 15:15 Laurens wrote: I find the "bottom bracket is stacked" posts funny. The reason why a lot of "good" teams are in the bottom bracket, is because they failed to win against ppl from the top bracket The best team so far imo is Croatia, and they're in the top half. France, Germany, Italy, all finished first and ended up in the bottom half, and are a more impressive trio than Wales, Croatia, Group F winner. And as runner-ups Spain and England are more impressive (in repute at least) than Switzerland or Poland. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4548 Posts
On June 22 2016 15:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote: France, Germany, Italy, all finished first and ended up in the bottom half, and are a more impressive trio than Wales, Croatia, Group F winner. And as runner-ups Spain and England are more impressive (in repute at least) than Switzerland or Poland. Yeah based on repute it's stacked, no disagreement there. I've not been impressed by Italy. They parked the bus v Belgium and scored on counter (2 beautiful goals, I give you that). Lukaku should've tied it up with his amazing chance he got, ah well. Poland and Wales have shown they are on the same level as Germany/England. Portugal and Belgium will (hopefully) join the top half too. I'd be more excited for a Croatia - Belgium semi than Germany - France but I may be biased  | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On June 22 2016 16:06 Laurens wrote: Yeah based on repute it's stacked, no disagreement there. I've not been impressed by Italy. They parked the bus v Belgium and scored on counter (2 beautiful goals, I give you that). Lukaku should've tied it up with his amazing chance he got, ah well. Poland and Wales have shown they are on the same level as Germany/England. Portugal and Belgium will (hopefully) join the top half too. I'd be more excited for a Croatia - Belgium semi than Germany - France but I may be biased You'd be more excited to see 2 second zone team play in the semi-finals than a staple a European Football that has so much history. This is not bias, this is you being a hipster. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6240 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9233 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On June 22 2016 18:07 RvB wrote: Group stages are a bad predictor for the rest of the tournament. Team often underperform at first and grow into the tournament later. Belgium has also been pretty bad except for one half. I don't see why they'd be preferred over Italy or another big country. Yes, some team step up and others dont in knockout stages. However, I think that in >80% of tournaments in the last decades, the eventual winner was a teams that has won its group. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 22 2016 20:43 Mafe wrote: Yes, some team step up and others dont in knockout stages. However, I think that in >80% of tournaments in the last decades, the eventual winner was a teams that has won its group. Just looking at the EUROs... 3/7 since 1988 (Netherlands, Denmark, France and Greece all failed to win their group but became EC). It looks different for worldcups though, 7/7 since 1990. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6972 Posts
On June 22 2016 20:54 mahrgell wrote: Just looking at the EUROs... 3/7 since 1988 (Netherlands, Denmark, France and Greece all failed to win their group but became EC). It looks different for worldcups though, 7/7 since 1990. Spain it is then  They were the only ones smart enough to not win their group. Or maybe they just thought: "nahh our bracket side is boring, lets go play with Italy, France and Germany instead" | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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LennX
4557 Posts
On June 23 2016 03:02 OminouS wrote: Iceland - Austria. Wasnt the last goal off side? Not the goal giving pass but the long pass that gave Iceland the opportunity in the first place? it was a deflection iirc. Island 16 hype!!! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On June 23 2016 03:02 OminouS wrote: Iceland - Austria. Wasnt the last goal off side? Not the goal giving pass but the long pass that gave Iceland the opportunity in the first place? There is no offside if it's in your own half | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13181 Posts
Top half is wide open. How did Portugal luck into that!? Belgium a really good chance to make final. | ||
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