On June 06 2012 16:48 Enel wrote: Persie sucks, its up 2 robben how far the dutch will go.
I think this video kind of speaks for itself. How can you possibly say that? lol
Well an awful lot of his goals were spoon fed to him and he "just" finished with a well placed shot or header. I put the quotes in there cause that's a great talent for a striker to have, not saying he's bad or anything, but he's not the kind of player that will win a game on his own when his team doesn't know what to do and are just sitting on their asses. The dutch don't have a player like that anymore. I think their last such player was Bergkamp. Oh, they do have rafael van der vaart which is imo top 3 world. Dunno why he's not a starter for you guys. What a shame.
dude, van Persie single handedly give a very poor Arsenal team 3rd spot on this year EPL you should see his match winning goal against everton
van Der Vart will occupy the same space as Snejder in the current set up, so unless Dutch change their formation, unlikely he will start
Won't happen, but I can't see why we can't play vd Vaart and Sneijder in one team. Just put one of them next to v. Bommel and put Nigel de Jong in central defense instead of Mathijsen. Spain plays with Xavi and Iniesta and play possession football to counter the attack of the opposition. There's no reason why we can't play a somewhat similar style with the players we have.
Meh, Nigel de Jong central defender? naaah, way to much yellow/red cards and not as solid as Mathijsen imo. I think the defending midfield is really strong, Nigel de Jong and Mark van Bommel clean up so many balls. vd Vaart and Sneijder are not the same as Xavi and Iniesta. Xavi is more a defending then a attacking midfielder, Iniesta is similar to Sneijder/ vd Vaart, thats why Spain can play with both and Oranje cannot Spain has Fabregas aswell, he is sub because Iniesta plays on that position, similar to the Sneijder/ vd Vaart situation.
On June 07 2012 18:38 Deadstrider wrote: Meh, Nigel de Jong central defender? naaah, way to much yellow/red cards and not as solid as Mathijsen imo. I think the defending midfield is really strong, Nigel de Jong and Mark van Bommel clean up so many balls. vd Vaart and Sneijder are not the same as Xavi and Iniesta. Xavi is more a defending then a attacking midfielder, Iniesta is similar to Sneijder/ vd Vaart, thats why Spain can play with both and Oranje cannot Spain has Fabregas aswell, he is sub because Iniesta plays on that position, similar to the Sneijder/ vd Vaart situation.
De Jong can play without taking red or yellow cards if he wants he has done it before for multiple clubs.
Apparently there were 20k people watching at the public training of Oranje pretty crazy when you think about it.
On June 07 2012 17:50 Twisted wrote: Won't happen, but I can't see why we can't play vd Vaart and Sneijder in one team. Just put one of them next to v. Bommel and put Nigel de Jong in central defense instead of Mathijsen. Spain plays with Xavi and Iniesta and play possession football to counter the attack of the opposition. There's no reason why we can't play a somewhat similar style with the players we have.
I like how you want to take Mathijssen out when Heitinga has been showing such a terrible performance so far. And the discussion hasn't been whether VDV and Sneijder can play in the same team for ages, the current discussion is about having RVP and Huntelaar in the same team. VDV got subbed in twice in the last two games, and he didn't show anything. Huntelaar should play, and so should RVP:
....................Stekelenburg...................... ..Kuijt - Vlaar - Mathijssen - anyone......... ...............De Jong - Sneijder.................... ..Affelay/Narsingh - Van Persie - Robben... .........................Huntelaar.......................
Just as I though, Holland will very likely beat Portugal since Portugal can't turtle as well as Denmark or Germany. And when you go attack vs attack with this Holland team, its not gonna end well.
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