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Its understandable to be mad when you lose in a competitive environment, every athlete goes through that (real sports or e-sports) when they lose. Here's the difference: you take your lumps like a man, look at what you could have done better and what your opponent did, and how you can prevent that in the future.
Here's what idra does: cries about losses being due to luck or cheese. Its so irritating, just like a basketball player who blames every loss on the refs.
The crying about cheese is something annoying shared by a lot of Starcraft fans, like because its unorthodox its not a "legit" strategy. If it works and is legal, why is it somehow dishonorable? Its not like people cry about how unfair and "lame" a trick play in football is. I notice this in e-sports that there is a lot more crying about "unfair" or "lame" tactics than in real life sports
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United States1935 Posts
After an interview like this, korean interviews just aren't worth reading. So good!
Idra gonna take this match free. bet it.
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On February 13 2010 09:56 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 09:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 02:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Bad is below expectation. Expectations are high.
GosI[Terran] - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ra - gets pushed to a tense 5th game when Kabal is making unforced errors
Kabal - bad under pressure
Xiaozi - mechanics not even close
Tarson - bad under pressure
Brat_OK - to quote Artosis, no flair
kolll - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ret - agreeing with Artosis here, Ret didn't play his best. Dunno why (moving back home?), but below expectation
Sen - good enough mechanics but outdated style. Dreiven/Infernal/Mondragon's PvZ would've ended Sen in the Ro16
Draco - just not good enough. Taking into account his recent retirement statement, I think he just couldn't dig up enough motivation to do his best in this TSL.
JF, me, IdrA, Mondragon and Fenix all came out and did what was expected of us or better. Good performances. Everyone else - bad performances. Bad performance means bad skill means they're bad. Throw a 'fucking' in there for good measure. Ezpz summary.
The Ro16 was like a race where people enter with best times of 60 seconds or faster and 3/4 of them finish in 65+ seconds. I'm gonna call them bad. I don't want to antagonize them, so I won't say it to their faces or in an interview I know they'll read. But while making small talk in a practice game, sure I will. I'm quite happy with Idra vs Nony. I will be happy anyway as one of them has to lose. I hope you deliver, Nony. I don't think it will even be close, but after a post like that, better not getting spanked. Fact is, you call everybody bad, but you didn't quite succeed in Korea, and most progamer there could be saying that you blow. Or that Idra who has spend years of his life playing this game and not doing anyhting else at all hasn't achieve anything at all except beating people who practice 6 times less than him. Oh well... You both are very good at trash talking.  ...Don't make a fucking stupid smiley face after something you're directing as an insult. NonY didn't succeed in Korea because he figured out that being a pro-gamer is just fucking retarded. He obviously has many things going for him, why would he stay there? He can say they're bad all he wants, that's an opinion I assume that is what we are here to share on this forum?
I smile because seing someone being that cocky, arrogant and disrespectful after what we unfortunately have to call a quite huge failure, and before facing someone who will spank him 99% is quite funny.
I can imagine that in an interview any player of eStro could say "Oh yeah, this american guy. Hahaha. He blew so much that he couldn't even make courage. And he lacked so much determination that he left after one try. Yeah, they are so bad, foreigners." Nony is a good player, but so are all the player he trash talk about. And they all blow, Nony included compared to any mediocre b-teamer such as Idra. Who blow like a noob against bad A-teamer. And bad A-teamer such as Rock blow so much that everybody laugh everytime he plays against good A-teamer. And then again, good A-teamer blow compared to Flash and Jaedong.
So there is five level of players upon Nony's head who could laugh at how bad, how horrendous he is at that game. That's a good reason to show a little little bit of humility.
And I smile because I like smiling. Fine?
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On February 13 2010 20:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 09:56 selboN wrote:On February 13 2010 09:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 02:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Bad is below expectation. Expectations are high.
GosI[Terran] - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ra - gets pushed to a tense 5th game when Kabal is making unforced errors
Kabal - bad under pressure
Xiaozi - mechanics not even close
Tarson - bad under pressure
Brat_OK - to quote Artosis, no flair
kolll - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ret - agreeing with Artosis here, Ret didn't play his best. Dunno why (moving back home?), but below expectation
Sen - good enough mechanics but outdated style. Dreiven/Infernal/Mondragon's PvZ would've ended Sen in the Ro16
Draco - just not good enough. Taking into account his recent retirement statement, I think he just couldn't dig up enough motivation to do his best in this TSL.
JF, me, IdrA, Mondragon and Fenix all came out and did what was expected of us or better. Good performances. Everyone else - bad performances. Bad performance means bad skill means they're bad. Throw a 'fucking' in there for good measure. Ezpz summary.
The Ro16 was like a race where people enter with best times of 60 seconds or faster and 3/4 of them finish in 65+ seconds. I'm gonna call them bad. I don't want to antagonize them, so I won't say it to their faces or in an interview I know they'll read. But while making small talk in a practice game, sure I will. I'm quite happy with Idra vs Nony. I will be happy anyway as one of them has to lose. I hope you deliver, Nony. I don't think it will even be close, but after a post like that, better not getting spanked. Fact is, you call everybody bad, but you didn't quite succeed in Korea, and most progamer there could be saying that you blow. Or that Idra who has spend years of his life playing this game and not doing anyhting else at all hasn't achieve anything at all except beating people who practice 6 times less than him. Oh well... You both are very good at trash talking. ...Don't make a fucking stupid smiley face after something you're directing as an insult. NonY didn't succeed in Korea because he figured out that being a pro-gamer is just fucking retarded. He obviously has many things going for him, why would he stay there? He can say they're bad all he wants, that's an opinion I assume that is what we are here to share on this forum? I smile because seing someone being that cocky, arrogant and disrespectful after what we unfortunately have to call a quite huge failure, and before facing someone who will spank him 99% is quite funny. I can imagine that in an interview any player of eStro could say "Oh yeah, this american guy. Hahaha. He blew so much that he couldn't even make courage. And he lacked so much determination that he left after one try. Yeah, they are so bad, foreigners." Nony is a good player, but so are all the player he trash talk about. And they all blow, Nony included compared to any mediocre b-teamer such as Idra. Who blow like a noob against bad A-teamer. And bad A-teamer such as Rock blow so much that everybody laugh everytime he plays against good A-teamer. And then again, good A-teamer blow compared to Flash and Jaedong. So there is five level of players upon Nony's head who could laugh at how bad, how horrendous he is at that game. That's a good reason to show a little little bit of humility. And I smile because I like smiling. Fine?
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On February 13 2010 20:53 RaptorX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 20:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 09:56 selboN wrote:On February 13 2010 09:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 02:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Bad is below expectation. Expectations are high.
GosI[Terran] - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ra - gets pushed to a tense 5th game when Kabal is making unforced errors
Kabal - bad under pressure
Xiaozi - mechanics not even close
Tarson - bad under pressure
Brat_OK - to quote Artosis, no flair
kolll - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ret - agreeing with Artosis here, Ret didn't play his best. Dunno why (moving back home?), but below expectation
Sen - good enough mechanics but outdated style. Dreiven/Infernal/Mondragon's PvZ would've ended Sen in the Ro16
Draco - just not good enough. Taking into account his recent retirement statement, I think he just couldn't dig up enough motivation to do his best in this TSL.
JF, me, IdrA, Mondragon and Fenix all came out and did what was expected of us or better. Good performances. Everyone else - bad performances. Bad performance means bad skill means they're bad. Throw a 'fucking' in there for good measure. Ezpz summary.
The Ro16 was like a race where people enter with best times of 60 seconds or faster and 3/4 of them finish in 65+ seconds. I'm gonna call them bad. I don't want to antagonize them, so I won't say it to their faces or in an interview I know they'll read. But while making small talk in a practice game, sure I will. I'm quite happy with Idra vs Nony. I will be happy anyway as one of them has to lose. I hope you deliver, Nony. I don't think it will even be close, but after a post like that, better not getting spanked. Fact is, you call everybody bad, but you didn't quite succeed in Korea, and most progamer there could be saying that you blow. Or that Idra who has spend years of his life playing this game and not doing anyhting else at all hasn't achieve anything at all except beating people who practice 6 times less than him. Oh well... You both are very good at trash talking. ...Don't make a fucking stupid smiley face after something you're directing as an insult. NonY didn't succeed in Korea because he figured out that being a pro-gamer is just fucking retarded. He obviously has many things going for him, why would he stay there? He can say they're bad all he wants, that's an opinion I assume that is what we are here to share on this forum? I smile because seing someone being that cocky, arrogant and disrespectful after what we unfortunately have to call a quite huge failure, and before facing someone who will spank him 99% is quite funny. I can imagine that in an interview any player of eStro could say "Oh yeah, this american guy. Hahaha. He blew so much that he couldn't even make courage. And he lacked so much determination that he left after one try. Yeah, they are so bad, foreigners." Nony is a good player, but so are all the player he trash talk about. And they all blow, Nony included compared to any mediocre b-teamer such as Idra. Who blow like a noob against bad A-teamer. And bad A-teamer such as Rock blow so much that everybody laugh everytime he plays against good A-teamer. And then again, good A-teamer blow compared to Flash and Jaedong. So there is five level of players upon Nony's head who could laugh at how bad, how horrendous he is at that game. That's a good reason to show a little little bit of humility. And I smile because I like smiling. Fine? fixed
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On February 14 2010 02:37 Liquid`NonY wrote:
WHAT DID YOU SAYYYYYYYY
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As always, amazing interview.
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Awesome answers, digging it!
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On February 13 2010 20:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 09:56 selboN wrote:On February 13 2010 09:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 02:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Bad is below expectation. Expectations are high.
GosI[Terran] - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ra - gets pushed to a tense 5th game when Kabal is making unforced errors
Kabal - bad under pressure
Xiaozi - mechanics not even close
Tarson - bad under pressure
Brat_OK - to quote Artosis, no flair
kolll - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ret - agreeing with Artosis here, Ret didn't play his best. Dunno why (moving back home?), but below expectation
Sen - good enough mechanics but outdated style. Dreiven/Infernal/Mondragon's PvZ would've ended Sen in the Ro16
Draco - just not good enough. Taking into account his recent retirement statement, I think he just couldn't dig up enough motivation to do his best in this TSL.
JF, me, IdrA, Mondragon and Fenix all came out and did what was expected of us or better. Good performances. Everyone else - bad performances. Bad performance means bad skill means they're bad. Throw a 'fucking' in there for good measure. Ezpz summary.
The Ro16 was like a race where people enter with best times of 60 seconds or faster and 3/4 of them finish in 65+ seconds. I'm gonna call them bad. I don't want to antagonize them, so I won't say it to their faces or in an interview I know they'll read. But while making small talk in a practice game, sure I will. I'm quite happy with Idra vs Nony. I will be happy anyway as one of them has to lose. I hope you deliver, Nony. I don't think it will even be close, but after a post like that, better not getting spanked. Fact is, you call everybody bad, but you didn't quite succeed in Korea, and most progamer there could be saying that you blow. Or that Idra who has spend years of his life playing this game and not doing anyhting else at all hasn't achieve anything at all except beating people who practice 6 times less than him. Oh well... You both are very good at trash talking. ...Don't make a fucking stupid smiley face after something you're directing as an insult. NonY didn't succeed in Korea because he figured out that being a pro-gamer is just fucking retarded. He obviously has many things going for him, why would he stay there? He can say they're bad all he wants, that's an opinion I assume that is what we are here to share on this forum? I smile because seing someone being that cocky, arrogant and disrespectful after what we unfortunately have to call a quite huge failure, and before facing someone who will spank him 99% is quite funny. I can imagine that in an interview any player of eStro could say "Oh yeah, this american guy. Hahaha. He blew so much that he couldn't even make courage. And he lacked so much determination that he left after one try. Yeah, they are so bad, foreigners." Nony is a good player, but so are all the player he trash talk about. And they all blow, Nony included compared to any mediocre b-teamer such as Idra. Who blow like a noob against bad A-teamer. And bad A-teamer such as Rock blow so much that everybody laugh everytime he plays against good A-teamer. And then again, good A-teamer blow compared to Flash and Jaedong. So there is five level of players upon Nony's head who could laugh at how bad, how horrendous he is at that game. That's a good reason to show a little little bit of humility. And I smile because I like smiling. Fine?
The self-satisfaction in that post is tantamount to masturbation.
Please don't do that in public.
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Why the hell is Idra so cocky.
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United States10774 Posts
On February 13 2010 20:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 09:56 selboN wrote:On February 13 2010 09:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:On February 13 2010 02:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Bad is below expectation. Expectations are high.
GosI[Terran] - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ra - gets pushed to a tense 5th game when Kabal is making unforced errors
Kabal - bad under pressure
Xiaozi - mechanics not even close
Tarson - bad under pressure
Brat_OK - to quote Artosis, no flair
kolll - bad under pressure / couldn't adjust on the spot
Ret - agreeing with Artosis here, Ret didn't play his best. Dunno why (moving back home?), but below expectation
Sen - good enough mechanics but outdated style. Dreiven/Infernal/Mondragon's PvZ would've ended Sen in the Ro16
Draco - just not good enough. Taking into account his recent retirement statement, I think he just couldn't dig up enough motivation to do his best in this TSL.
JF, me, IdrA, Mondragon and Fenix all came out and did what was expected of us or better. Good performances. Everyone else - bad performances. Bad performance means bad skill means they're bad. Throw a 'fucking' in there for good measure. Ezpz summary.
The Ro16 was like a race where people enter with best times of 60 seconds or faster and 3/4 of them finish in 65+ seconds. I'm gonna call them bad. I don't want to antagonize them, so I won't say it to their faces or in an interview I know they'll read. But while making small talk in a practice game, sure I will. I'm quite happy with Idra vs Nony. I will be happy anyway as one of them has to lose. I hope you deliver, Nony. I don't think it will even be close, but after a post like that, better not getting spanked. Fact is, you call everybody bad, but you didn't quite succeed in Korea, and most progamer there could be saying that you blow. Or that Idra who has spend years of his life playing this game and not doing anyhting else at all hasn't achieve anything at all except beating people who practice 6 times less than him. Oh well... You both are very good at trash talking. ...Don't make a fucking stupid smiley face after something you're directing as an insult. NonY didn't succeed in Korea because he figured out that being a pro-gamer is just fucking retarded. He obviously has many things going for him, why would he stay there? He can say they're bad all he wants, that's an opinion I assume that is what we are here to share on this forum? I smile because seing someone being that cocky, arrogant and disrespectful after what we unfortunately have to call a quite huge failure, and before facing someone who will spank him 99% is quite funny. I can imagine that in an interview any player of eStro could say "Oh yeah, this american guy. Hahaha. He blew so much that he couldn't even make courage. And he lacked so much determination that he left after one try. Yeah, they are so bad, foreigners." Nony is a good player, but so are all the player he trash talk about. And they all blow, Nony included compared to any mediocre b-teamer such as Idra. Who blow like a noob against bad A-teamer. And bad A-teamer such as Rock blow so much that everybody laugh everytime he plays against good A-teamer. And then again, good A-teamer blow compared to Flash and Jaedong. So there is five level of players upon Nony's head who could laugh at how bad, how horrendous he is at that game. That's a good reason to show a little little bit of humility. And I smile because I like smiling. Fine?
you are a tool
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 13 2010 09:05 iG.SwOrD wrote:
I got banned for 1 week because i said that the games between NonY-Tarson and Kolll-Fenix sucked but of course when NonY says it nobody gives a fuck.
YOU GUYS SO AWESOME AT TL.NET _____________
lol ya u totally have the same rights as a team liquid member at team liquid dot net
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On February 14 2010 11:03 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2010 09:05 iG.SwOrD wrote:
I got banned for 1 week because i said that the games between NonY-Tarson and Kolll-Fenix sucked but of course when NonY says it nobody gives a fuck.
YOU GUYS SO AWESOME AT TL.NET _____________ lol ya u totally have the same rights as a team liquid member at team liquid dot net
lmao
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Rekrul and Nony about to run a train on IdrA and his fanboys and make BANK. That blog from Rek is the most ballsy thing I've seen in a couple weeks, and I saw Greg Oden's dick recently.. that thing is huge.
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zero you do realize Rekrul makes bets like that all the time.
$2500 is pebbles to Rek.
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I'm pretty sure IdrA will take this series. All top competitors are extremely confident, that's what it takes to win.
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On February 14 2010 13:43 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I'm pretty sure IdrA will take this series. All top competitors are extremely confident, that's what it takes to win.
Have you ever listened to or read Nony interviews? He is just as confident that he will win.
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On February 14 2010 13:18 Fzero wrote:
Rekrul and Nony about to run a train on IdrA and his fanboys and make BANK. That blog from Rek is the most ballsy thing I've seen in a couple weeks, and I saw Greg Oden's dick recently.. that thing is huge.
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