EPTOn December 13 2009 12:40 IdrA wrote:
how did he not have the same chance as everyone else
if he had same chances he wouldn't do that so don't judge him so easily or call him a cheater coz of this thing..how did he not have the same chance as everyone else
he had to be in top12 not top48.. yes, it's not fault of anyone else but still..
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
he had to be in top12 not top48.. yes, it's not fault of anyone else but still.. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
AND WTF YOSH?! | ||
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iSCd
80 Posts
On December 13 2009 21:00 purgerinho wrote: he had to be in top12 not top48.. yes, it's not fault of anyone else but still.. i dont get your morals man! | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On December 13 2009 07:29 disciple wrote: the TSL administration has indeed a very particular set of skills. I'm sure, if ppl just admit their ladder abuse, that will be end of it. Anyway, good luck heh | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
well, i'm not like many of you, i can't judge ppl so easily coz of this... i'm sad that chinese players can't play coz they don't lag so much everyone likes to show.. many of top48 played against chinese players to gain points.. isn't it so funny... f91 played liqubition without lag (nony was the only one that felt it but we all know it was a bullshit) against many players... | ||
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iSCd
80 Posts
On December 14 2009 00:39 purgerinho wrote: well, i'm not like many of you, i can't judge ppl so easily coz of this... i'm sad that chinese players can't play coz they don't lag so much everyone likes to show.. many of top48 played against chinese players to gain points.. isn't it so funny... f91 played liqubition without lag (nony was the only one that felt it but we all know it was a bullshit) against many players... As I said before f91s case is kind of understandable, BUT its a huge mistake non the less, which cant be excused. I can see him getting a relatively mild punishment, BUT I cant see how you argue for him staying in this TSL! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
you get nerdy artosis going ohohohmeegod gtfo meee comooonity~~ wtf, posing as rekrul who you foolin? then bam 10 more disqualifications, instant BLACK EYE with more to come I'm sure it sucks cus these players playing it honest would've made TSL2 a lot more exciting, especially F91 who has to deal with extraneous rules,and flying out to compete, etc. Any honest person would agree that the no chinese rule is cus of the potential lag BUT also cus if chinese players are allowed in they'd OWN the joint. TSL2 just got a lot less exciting, but them's the rules. | ||
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qwstarplayer
Sweden5 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:12 .risingdragoon wrote: well he's out already, it was his decision, can't be in top12 means no go for him anyway. you get nerdy artosis going ohohohmeegod gtfo meee comooonity~~ wtf, posing as rekrul who you foolin? then bam 10 more disqualifications, instant BLACK EYE with more to come I'm sure it sucks cus these players playing it honest would've made TSL2 a lot more exciting, especially F91 who has to deal with extraneous rules,and flying out to compete, etc. Any honest person would agree that the no chinese rule is cus of the potential lag BUT also cus if chinese players are allowed in they'd OWN the joint. TSL2 just got a lot less exciting, but them's the rules. do you have to leak your annoying nationalism into every thread about this? | ||
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
sad: cuz people are such idiots.. happy: TL admins rock! | ||
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
The purpose of the ladder is to select the 48 strongest Starcraft players out of the entire pool of players. Tragically, the fact remains that external factors make it impossible for this system to actually work. If a large number of mediocre players are using 'ladder-abuse' techniques (which may or may not actually be affecting their in-game performance, i.e. not everyone plays 'auto-wins) to inflate their scores, how can the top 48 reflect the 'strongest' players? And if players as strong as F91, A2, Pomi, and Yosh aren't in the top 48, hasn't the selection system failed us? The real tragedy is that the TSL won't be as good as it could have been. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
a2 is better than morrow, therefore he can beat more people than him and will have a higher win percentage vs the players they can both beat. that means that if a2 plays the ladder the way morrow had he should end up with a higher score than him. instead he chose to be lazy. thats his fault. no one elses. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
The ladder isn't even to find the best players. It is to find the players who are most qualified. The best at playing in a ladder, under pressure, with rules. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 14 2009 14:58 BroOd wrote: do you have to leak your annoying nationalism into every thread about this? da hell you talking about Forewick Holm? maybe if you thought about it you'd know that it's kinda hard to be a monolithic chinese nationalist when I'm flying the US colors? why do I have to be labeled? as uncomfortable as this is, I just called it as I saw it. yeah, I think it was artosis with the bonehead nationalist comment, and I'm trying to make up for it with the "yea I get it, you said that cus of lag reasons /rolleyes." F91 is a draw for me cus I like his style, muthafucka, just like lovett's pvp, and pj's pvz (not so much lx, dunno why) just like how I and a whole buncha people discovered brat_OK in the last TSL and like his play. Does that make me a russian nationalist now? This is sad as it is already and I think I've been diplomatic, don't you twist things any further. | ||
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mijellin
China740 Posts
On December 14 2009 18:10 SirKibbleX wrote: I'm saddened because of the disconnect between the purpose of this ladder and its actual methods employed. The purpose of the ladder is to select the 48 strongest honest Starcraft players who don't cheat out of the entire pool of players. Tragically, the fact remains that external factors make it impossible for this system to actually work. If a large number of mediocre players are using 'ladder-abuse' techniques (which may or may not actually be affecting their in-game performance, i.e. not everyone plays 'auto-wins) to inflate their scores, how can the top 48 reflect the 'strongest' players? And if players as strong as F91, A2, Pomi, and Yosh aren't in the top 48, hasn't the selection system failed us? The real tragedy is that the TSL won't be as good as it could have been. fixed | ||
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
And thopol the respected and admired players should have been able to just qualify. For someone to do something, they typically need means, motive, and opportunity. 1 and 3 and there for certain, I just don't see why people would cheat when they could just as easily play and win. It's tragic for me, someone who just enjoys watching high-level Starcraft matches, that I will be watching the people who are the best at 'manipulating' a ladder in some way, even if it's within the rules, rather than the absolute best qualified STARCRAFT players. | ||
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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