EPTOn December 13 2009 12:02 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
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hence the "actually i mean"
it was an edit, i misspoke but the point is the same
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
hence the "actually i mean" it was an edit, i misspoke but the point is the same | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 13 2009 12:03 purgerinho wrote: his act doesn't deserve respect but he as a player deserve is whatever you or nayone else said.. all other players had to get in top48  if he had same chances he wouldn't do that so don't judge him so easily or call him a cheater coz of this thing..how did he not have the same chance as everyone else | ||
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aeroH
United States1034 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 13 2009 12:38 IdrA wrote: hence the "actually i mean" it was an edit, i misspoke but the point is the same Yeah I know what you mean no worries. actually I mean you make no sense and that was completely illogical and I didn't know what you meant. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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iSCd
80 Posts
- It is ofc not! The same applies for the F91 case. He was ill fated by a tough personal schedule and maybe bad equipment - no excuse! | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
I hope all of the abusers get dropped from their teams. I'm sad that players I liked cheated, but their actions cannot be tolerated. | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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KwarK
United States44124 Posts
On December 13 2009 14:37 igotmyown wrote: I feel a little sympathetic because it's not nearly as bad as cheating to win a game, like maphacking. You have a ladder, and you need to qualify with a high rank. Unfortunately, there are a good number of unfair practices that inflate the points - win trading, dodging, playing only foreigners, farming a poor sucker, and playing lots of crappy players have all come up. Idra seems the only one immune to dropping out of the ladder due to a loss streak. Wait, cheating to win a ladder (ie a ranking based upon the results of many games) is not as bad as maphacking (ie cheating to win a single game)? Care to explain that? And don't say they needed it to compete because that's bullshit. If they need to cheat to compete with all the legit players then they weren't good enough. Full stop. | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
Think about it as them being anyone other than who they are as opposed to what theyve gained through the community and you people who are supporting these players such as f91 will realize that its wrong | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
 , so sad, lost the respect for him.. | ||
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sMi.MeOw
New Zealand160 Posts
:3 | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On December 13 2009 14:37 igotmyown wrote: I feel a little sympathetic because it's not nearly as bad as cheating to win a game, like maphacking. You have a ladder, and you need to qualify with a high rank. Unfortunately, there are a good number of unfair practices that inflate the points - win trading, dodging, playing only foreigners, farming a poor sucker, and playing lots of crappy players have all come up. Idra seems the only one immune to dropping out of the ladder due to a loss streak. What they did was so much worse than map hacking Both are incredibly horrible things to do but, To win a tournament of this caliber of players using a maphack still requires you having alot of the fundamentals of being a good player(unless of course you just fag it up and play alot of low rank nubbies that will give you auto wins). But realistically you have to have some form of fundamentals to take out anyone decent. Rigging the ladder in a way that you get auto wins essentially, and potentially scamming a huge tournament is much worse. No skill is required, just another account or a lineup of friends waiting to feed you points. One requires a semblence of mechanics, one is completely dishonest and trashy. Now, both actions are incredibly bm, and both should be frowned upon and people banned for it, but one is much worse. All the players caught of cheating this ladder should suffer the years of trial Testie did. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:58 sMi.MeOw wrote: didn't even change his own rank from the 2 abuse games...really pointless.... :3 then maybe he shouldn't have done the 2 games? | ||
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piratebay
United States399 Posts
On December 13 2009 12:35 KwarK wrote: As loathed as I am to agree with Idra I have to here. I can't believe people are saying "yeah, but he admited" it as if it's a defence. If in the heat of the moment someone asks a friend to throw a game to them then half an hour later pms Hot_Bid and says "look, I did something stupid, please ask an admin to remove the points" then I'll overlook that as a lapse of judgement. But that's not what happened here. He tried to cheat his way in and he got caught. this explains it all f91 was caught and admitted to it, its like classique when he got caught maphacking and he admitted to it too, but was banned due to the offense. there is no respect for admitted to fault after getting caught with your hand down the cookie jar. plus, ladder rigging is much worse than maphacking imo in this league. you are not just cheating against one opponent, you are cheating against the league as a whole. you are denying people's honest efforts in trying to make the top 48. abusing ladder through free wins to earn a rank denies so many other people's chances to gain a spot (whether through knocking someone down, or other people who start gaming more and maybe losing their rank due to not standing pat) but its a bad thing. props to TL, i am glad you guys are being very thorough in this process. i just hope that not many more ppl have resorted to thsi, but i doubt it with 21k in the prize pool. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
surprising and really unfair | ||
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Mowse
South Africa56 Posts
for what a few points and he was already qualified silly silly silly stuff! | ||
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