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Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
December 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#21
Well, this sux... Lets say I can understand F91 breaking under pressure, but A2?! He was practicaly in the top 12! Too bad...
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
December 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#22
lol..
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 22:44:02
December 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#23
Damn, Advocate and F91, such a shame...
(I actually have no idea who is Pomi, but thats surely bad too:-p)

It's painful to see how all this money that's supposed to make this the best SC tournament ever also ruins it by attracting various forms of cheating/abuse (all the trashtalk about the technically legal forms of abuse on the forums was just the beginning apparently...)

edit: I think I also see their abuse method now, but if you didnt want to put it here I wont either.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 22:31:48
December 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#24
the TSL administration has indeed a very particular set of skills. I'm sure, if ppl just admit their ladder abuse, that will be end of it.

Anyway, good luck
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 12 2009 22:31 GMT
#25
god i love a2 but why he do this t.tttttttt
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
December 12 2009 22:31 GMT
#26
OMG A2
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 12 2009 22:33 GMT
#27
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, TSL CHEATS YOU

>_>!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 12 2009 22:33 GMT
#28
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 12 2009 22:37 GMT
#29
oh the drama
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 12 2009 22:39 GMT
#30
A2 no!!
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
December 12 2009 22:42 GMT
#31
That's just sad. Let's hope nobody important turns up cheating.
Fallout
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden54 Posts
December 12 2009 22:44 GMT
#32
Problem is, when people know they ain't gonna make it, they are not gonna loose anything on cheating. Because the only punishment will be they are D.Q. It's no loss if you aint gonna make it anyway. So there should be a harder punishment.
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edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
December 12 2009 22:46 GMT
#33
On December 13 2009 07:44 Fallout wrote:
Problem is, when people know they ain't gonna make it, they are not gonna loose anything on cheating. Because the only punishment will be they are D.Q. It's no loss if you aint gonna make it anyway. So there should be a harder punishment.

Well, there is pride. And probably next years' tourney.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 22:47:50
December 12 2009 22:47 GMT
#34
On December 13 2009 07:44 Fallout wrote:
Problem is, when people know they ain't gonna make it, they are not gonna loose anything on cheating. Because the only punishment will be they are D.Q. It's no loss if you aint gonna make it anyway. So there should be a harder punishment.

Not participating in future TL events can be pretty serious. Also for most people their reputation is actually important. It's important for your pride, but also to find sponsors and respect in the online community.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 12 2009 22:47 GMT
#35
that is really, really stupid from A2. he was already qualified.

good job TL, get the scum!
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
December 12 2009 22:48 GMT
#36
also, if ur #50 i bet theres at least 5 more DQs so its not true that u "know" u wont make it for sure

if i was clean and close to #48 id probably not play
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
December 12 2009 22:48 GMT
#37
On December 13 2009 07:42 edahl wrote:
That's just sad. Let's hope nobody important turns up cheating.


You have an interesting idea of what an 'important' player is.

On December 13 2009 07:44 Fallout wrote:
Problem is, when people know they ain't gonna make it, they are not gonna loose anything on cheating. Because the only punishment will be they are D.Q. It's no loss if you aint gonna make it anyway. So there should be a harder punishment.


It's a large hit to their reputation in the community, and possibly worse if organizers decide to bar them from other tournaments because of it.. We've established in the past that ladder abuse is less than hacking/cheating, but still very troublesome. The fact this was done in the TSL makes it worse than just on iccup, though. It's a big deal.
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
December 12 2009 22:49 GMT
#38
why is ladder abuse "less than" hacking?

if someone hack vs me i can at least still beat them, if they abuse to pass me i can't do shit
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 22:50:20
December 12 2009 22:50 GMT
#39
On December 13 2009 07:48 QibingZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 07:42 edahl wrote:
That's just sad. Let's hope nobody important turns up cheating.


You have an interesting idea of what an 'important' player is.


An important player is one that hasn't cheated, obviously.
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
December 12 2009 22:50 GMT
#40
I don't understand this...he didn't have to cheat..he took a game away from jaedong at wcg...he doesn't need to cheat...

really...wow...

Good job teamliquid admins for detecting these types of abuse, leaving the spot to someone that deserves it.

Keep up the good work!
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