EPTOn March 06 2016 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
it is terrible and you should feel bad for liking it
it is terrible and you should feel bad for liking it
I guess you should create the International Court of Humor, you're clearly the authority on this
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OtherWorld
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I guess you should create the International Court of Humor, you're clearly the authority on this | ||
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FFW_Rude
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On March 05 2016 05:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Lots of shitposting in the IEM Katowice thread. That joke might have been slightly over the line. Slightly ? That's like the worst sentence i could think of on this site. On March 06 2016 01:08 OtherWorld wrote: I guess you should create the International Court of Humor, you're clearly the authority on this Or maybe making fun of people that died is terriblle ? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 06 2016 03:20 FFW_Rude wrote: Slightly ? That's like the worst sentence i could think of on this site. Or maybe making fun of people that died is terriblle ? Come on, people are making fun of tons of things everyday, including many people who died sooner than they should have. I'll totally agree that this joke was misplaced and that it is not funny for everyone (but jokes are never funny for everyone) ; but I also think that whether or not a joke is terrible or not is strictly up to personal interpretation and sensibility, and that no one has the right to condemn a joke as immoral. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18355 Posts
On March 06 2016 04:03 OtherWorld wrote: Come on, people are making fun of tons of things everyday, including many people who died sooner than they should have. I'll totally agree that this joke was misplaced and that it is not funny for everyone (but jokes are never funny for everyone) ; but I also think that whether or not a joke is terrible or not is strictly up to personal interpretation and sensibility, and that no one has the right to condemn a joke as immoral. I think that I can definitely judge a joke immoral. And so can anybody else for that matter. In this case, this was clearly a terrible forum for making that joke. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 06 2016 04:04 Acrofales wrote: I think that I can definitely judge a joke immoral. And so can anybody else for that matter. In this case, this was clearly a terrible forum for making that joke. Well yes you can condemn a joke as immoral, you're correct on that one. What I implied was that your condemnation of a joke as immoral couldn't be applied to everyone, because every person as different moral standards that are a consequence of education, culture and personal history. | ||
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brian
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 06 2016 03:20 FFW_Rude wrote: Slightly ? That's like the worst sentence i could think of on this site. Or maybe making fun of people that died is terriblle ? I said 'slightly' because the line to getting banned in that particular LR was incredibly high. Also I can think of many worst sentences. This was a morbid and inappropriate joke completely deserving of a ban, but it was still a joke. Sentences of similar calibre, but with intent and venom directed at other people are infinitely worse. | ||
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Skynx
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BigFan
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ThomasjServo
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If people don't know you for making that kind of joke you come off like an insensitive dick generally. Know your audience I guess. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 06 2016 07:11 brian wrote: nope you're objectively in the wrong here. Because objective morals is definitely a thing that exists and nobody ever disputed that. The "high horse" camp should really try to understand that their attitude of knowing what is right and what isn't is incredibly arrogant. I see this approach a lot in discussions, not only on TL: when someone doesn't like my opinion, they just make theirs a moral standard and then all discussion is prevented. Yeah, TL mods can ban for whatever they want, it's their raison d'etre, but that doesn't mean that does things are somehow "objectively wrong". The guy's dead and thus definitely doesn't care, to the full extent how not caring can be realised, and I dare to say that most of the people offended by the joke wouldn't care about him much had he not died. Also, people die every day, in copious quantities and nobody gives a shit, so this attitude of jumping around because of death of specific people is absurdly hypocritical. | ||
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Heartland
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opisska
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Heartland
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On March 06 2016 18:27 opisska wrote: I am totally OK with people just not liking it and with the concept that if I want to hang around with such people, I won't do those thing they don't like, that makes sense. What really grind my gears is when people start pretending as if their liking of things is something coming from a higher level of existence. Your morality is not automatically better then mine just because it is stricter. Sure. Just a bit tired of people fighting for the right of everyone to be jerks to everyone else. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 06 2016 17:55 opisska wrote: Because objective morals is definitely a thing that exists and nobody ever disputed that. The "high horse" camp should really try to understand that their attitude of knowing what is right and what isn't is incredibly arrogant. I see this approach a lot in discussions, not only on TL: when someone doesn't like my opinion, they just make theirs a moral standard and then all discussion is prevented. Yeah, TL mods can ban for whatever they want, it's their raison d'etre, but that doesn't mean that does things are somehow "objectively wrong". The guy's dead and thus definitely doesn't care, to the full extent how not caring can be realised, and I dare to say that most of the people offended by the joke wouldn't care about him much had he not died. Also, people die every day, in copious quantities and nobody gives a shit, so this attitude of jumping around because of death of specific people is absurdly hypocritical. Thank you | ||
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Penev
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On March 06 2016 18:32 Heartland wrote: Sure. Just a bit tired of people fighting for the right of everyone to be jerks to everyone else. Me too | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 06 2016 20:39 Penev wrote: I'm all for harsh, morbid jokes, I fail at delivering them all the time but to joke about the death of someone on a forum you know lots of people used to support the person during the struggle against the desease that eventually caused said death is insensitive, to say the least. A joke about a certain mental disorder immediately pops up in my head but I''ll keep it to myself. Me too I'm sorry if you two felt that I was defending his right to be a jerk, as that wasn't my intent at all | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On March 07 2016 01:15 OtherWorld wrote: I'm sorry if you two felt that I was defending his right to be a jerk, as that wasn't my intent at all *hugs otherworld and sings 'we shall overcome'* | ||
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Penev
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On March 07 2016 02:08 Heartland wrote: *hugs otherworld and sings 'we shall overcome'* may I join your jerks rights movement rally? s'all good Otherworld | ||
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