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On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock  It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D
LOL, we don't care if there is girl only leagues. We have a lot of talented players that can compete with the guys of sc (myself, flo, scarlett, etc).
We never asked for a girl sc league nor do we want one. We're simply introducing ourselves to the community, for the 500th time. (x
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On September 04 2011 05:33 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
The point of the GoSc Group is very simple -
The Girls of Starcraft group was created as a way to help encourage more females to play the game and the constant growth of females in the starcraft community. For the longest time Starcraft has been male dominated. One of the goals of GoSc is to help give recognition to the female players who have not been given such in the past. Another goal is to help encourage a more friendly and competitive environment for the female gamers in Starcraft. The members of GoSc firmly believe that the group is a great way to help support one another and is a great motivator for each other in terms of trying to become more active in the community.
This is exactly what I put on our wiki page. Apparently you didn't check it out. ^_^
Tesla - Well stated. If it weren't for the ever growing, and ever supportive GoSC community, I probably never would have been inspired to attend events, encourage other ladies to play, observe, support, share opinions, etc... I consider myself very lucky to have found this lovely group of girls. (I searched for a very long time before the beginning of June - before the group began - just HOPING that I wasn't going to forever be the only girl I knew of, in the US, anyhow, who enjoyed this game.)
2rax - I think I've said this before, but THANK YOU for starting this thread, and I (and I'm sure many others of us) look forward to additional member spotlights!
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On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D
Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues?
Why do TL users want a TL only league?
Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)?
People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong?
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On September 05 2011 04:45 pillowmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 05:33 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
The point of the GoSc Group is very simple -
The Girls of Starcraft group was created as a way to help encourage more females to play the game and the constant growth of females in the starcraft community. For the longest time Starcraft has been male dominated. One of the goals of GoSc is to help give recognition to the female players who have not been given such in the past. Another goal is to help encourage a more friendly and competitive environment for the female gamers in Starcraft. The members of GoSc firmly believe that the group is a great way to help support one another and is a great motivator for each other in terms of trying to become more active in the community.
This is exactly what I put on our wiki page. Apparently you didn't check it out. ^_^ Tesla - Well stated. If it weren't for the ever growing, and ever supportive GoSC community, I probably never would have been inspired to attend events, encourage other ladies to play, observe, support, share opinions, etc... I consider myself very lucky to have found this lovely group of girls. (I searched for a very long time before the beginning of June - before the group began - just HOPING that I wasn't going to forever be the only girl I knew of, in the US, anyhow, who enjoyed this game.) 2rax - I think I've said this before, but THANK YOU for starting this thread, and I (and I'm sure many others of us) look forward to additional member spotlights!
Aww thank you  and I agree with you! For my part, when I met this (awesome) group, I got even more motivated to improve at SC2 and it's so much fun to chitchat with girls about it too 
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hope dont get banned for it, but i would love a calendar!! xD
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The good thing in e-sports is that girls can compete with guys, all together :D
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On September 05 2011 04:51 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues? Why do TL users want a TL only league? Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)? People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong?
I think it is because it is a new type of exclusion for people. Most SC players are used to regional tournaments restricting outsiders. They're used to tournaments targeting subsets of players by skill level (Bronze, whatever) and ones based on ethnicity, but they're just not used to ones separated by gender.
I think people have a tendency to lash out at new things in general, especially if it excludes them.
Hopefully, the kind of negative feedback that female tournaments, groups, and leagues generate will subside over time. Maybe I'm just being too optimistic though, but I can always hope.
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On September 05 2011 08:14 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:51 Hot_Bid wrote:On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues? Why do TL users want a TL only league? Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)? People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong? I think it is because it is a new type of exclusion for people. Most SC players are used to regional tournaments restricting outsiders. They're used to tournaments targeting subsets of players by skill level (Bronze, whatever) and ones based on ethnicity, but they're just not used to ones separated by gender. I think people have a tendency to lash out at new things in general, especially if it excludes them. Hopefully, the kind of negative feedback that female tournaments, groups, and leagues generate will subside over time. Maybe I'm just being too optimistic though, but I can always hope.
I think it will... I haven't gotten that much negative feedback disclosing I'm a woman so far... And from what I heard it happened in the past. So I guess it improved?
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u cant go wrong with more girls!!
Girl power!!!
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I feel a link to the Twitch Tv accounts or their respective streaming sites would be more helpful than the ones for team liquid, just a thought. Cool premise though
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On September 05 2011 04:51 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues? Why do TL users want a TL only league? Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)? People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong?
Very well said Hot Bid! I don't think any of us could have put it better and that is exactly the situation with the girls only Leagues. We personally (or less than 1% of us) are involved in the actual creation and running of the girls only Leagues, however we do support them. It makes us feel a bit more comfortable and a bit more at home. Then we know we are facing other girls just like us, who can get just as upset as us over a loss or just as excited over a win. Another girl will understand how annoying it is to break a nail while playing or if you chip your nail polish from playing to much - a guy won't understand this (unless they are an actor or gay). So this allows us a place were we can practice and feel more at home. The same can be said for those from different countries. It is not that the Koreans can't play with people from North America, in fact they are happy for new challenges. However, they still prefer to have a group challenge against those they are most use to - other Koreans. What Hot Bid said is exactly why those kind of leagues exist. As for this group, I have already stated why we exist. It is not to make a "distance" between the male players and the female players - it is to encourage more female players to play in a friendly environment, with fellow female players.
On September 05 2011 04:45 pillowmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 05:33 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
The point of the GoSc Group is very simple -
The Girls of Starcraft group was created as a way to help encourage more females to play the game and the constant growth of females in the starcraft community. For the longest time Starcraft has been male dominated. One of the goals of GoSc is to help give recognition to the female players who have not been given such in the past. Another goal is to help encourage a more friendly and competitive environment for the female gamers in Starcraft. The members of GoSc firmly believe that the group is a great way to help support one another and is a great motivator for each other in terms of trying to become more active in the community.
This is exactly what I put on our wiki page. Apparently you didn't check it out. ^_^ Tesla - Well stated. If it weren't for the ever growing, and ever supportive GoSC community, I probably never would have been inspired to attend events, encourage other ladies to play, observe, support, share opinions, etc... I consider myself very lucky to have found this lovely group of girls. (I searched for a very long time before the beginning of June - before the group began - just HOPING that I wasn't going to forever be the only girl I knew of, in the US, anyhow, who enjoyed this game.) 2rax - I think I've said this before, but THANK YOU for starting this thread, and I (and I'm sure many others of us) look forward to additional member spotlights!
I am great that the group has helped you. Suna and I started the group for just the reasons that you stated. It has been a constant battle to make sure that remains as problem free as possible.
I look forward to see how much more our little group will expand and I hope that as a whole, we can change the scene to be more friendly towards females, because we don't want special treatment - we just want to play in peace and compete on the same level as the rest of the guys in the community. ^_^
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On September 05 2011 09:51 Jubio wrote:
I feel a link to the Twitch Tv accounts or their respective streaming sites would be more helpful than the ones for team liquid, just a thought. Cool premise though
Actually, I did that in the beggining but received a mod PM asking me to switch the links to TLs... so I did! ... 
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I don't get all the hate towards the female SC2 community (and female gamers in general). So they have their own league. Big deal. It's probably one of those things that girls like to do together, because you know, sometimes girls like to hang out with each other and do stuff.
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On September 05 2011 23:28 AutobotDan wrote:
I don't get all the hate towards the female SC2 community (and female gamers in general). So they have their own league. Big deal. It's probably one of those things that girls like to do together, because you know, sometimes girls like to hang out with each other and do stuff.
We don't have our own league LOL. There's one girl league the bumblebee cup or w/e. And not many of us play in it.
Most of us compete in leagues including everyone.
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On September 05 2011 04:51 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues? Why do TL users want a TL only league? Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)? People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong?
Agreed. Anyone who is against women only leagues is a retard.
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On September 05 2011 10:00 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
Another girl will understand how annoying it is to break a nail while playing or if you chip your nail polish from playing to much - a guy won't understand this (unless they are an actor or gay).
This made me chuckle. Way to generalize! Not only against men's ability to understand the woes of chipped nail polish, but also stereotyping all gays (and no straights) using nail polish. In a thread, which in part is fighting the "girls don't game"-stereotype, this comment just seems so unfitting!
But, as I said, it made me chuckle
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On September 06 2011 04:42 iMAniaC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 10:00 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
Another girl will understand how annoying it is to break a nail while playing or if you chip your nail polish from playing to much - a guy won't understand this (unless they are an actor or gay). This made me chuckle. Way to generalize! Not only against men's ability to understand the woes of chipped nail polish, but also stereotyping all gays (and no straights) using nail polish. In a thread, which in part is fighting the "girls don't game"-stereotype, this comment just seems so unfitting! But, as I said, it made me chuckle
hahahaha ! i didn't even see that post. that's really funny
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On September 06 2011 04:20 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:51 Hot_Bid wrote:On September 04 2011 20:07 MrTortoise wrote:Why do girls want girl only leagues? Sorry but its something I never really understood. I always assumed it was blokes setting up girl only leagues. Doesnt it feel like your deliberatley putting distance between sexes? Its not like its a power lifting competition or whos got the largest cock It was watching poker where i first really started going wtf? but sc2 seems a whole diffrent game because you are essentially behind a screen. Sorry if this seems a bit invasive, but i am really curious :D Why do Polish players want Polish only leagues? Why do TL users want a TL only league? Why do TL Staff want a TL staff only league (we've had this)? People like playing with others who have similar interests to them, it doesn't "deliberately put distance" over anything, there's plenty of leagues separated by age, gender, or any other characteristic. It's perfectly normal and natural to have this, so I wonder why it's necessary for so many people to question the existence / motivation / utility of female-only Starcraft tournaments. It's not hurting anyone and its creating a place for a minority group in the community to have more fun, what is wrong? Agreed. Anyone who is against women only leagues is a retard.
Ya :o
like in early SC1 days the female proleague and male proleague
I think it's fine, i just hope they don't make a foreigner-only league and korean-only league :X
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On September 06 2011 06:07 KaluGOSU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 04:42 iMAniaC wrote:On September 05 2011 10:00 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
Another girl will understand how annoying it is to break a nail while playing or if you chip your nail polish from playing to much - a guy won't understand this (unless they are an actor or gay). This made me chuckle. Way to generalize! Not only against men's ability to understand the woes of chipped nail polish, but also stereotyping all gays (and no straights) using nail polish. In a thread, which in part is fighting the "girls don't game"-stereotype, this comment just seems so unfitting! But, as I said, it made me chuckle hahahaha ! i didn't even see that post. that's really funny
I wasn't trying to stereotype -_-...I was trying to give examples. Ugh ~ Failed example is failed. At least you got a good chuckle out of it.
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tesla killing womens esports
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On September 06 2011 04:42 iMAniaC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 10:00 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
Another girl will understand how annoying it is to break a nail while playing or if you chip your nail polish from playing to much - a guy won't understand this (unless they are an actor or gay). This made me chuckle. Way to generalize! Not only against men's ability to understand the woes of chipped nail polish, but also stereotyping all gays (and no straights) using nail polish. In a thread, which in part is fighting the "girls don't game"-stereotype, this comment just seems so unfitting! But, as I said, it made me chuckle
rofl
For the record, I have never once thought about nails or anything nail related while playing any game
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