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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
May 17 2011 04:15 GMT
#441
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

Anyway gl Anna.
Canadium
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada171 Posts
May 17 2011 04:15 GMT
#442
Voted. Good luck Anna....
My top 3:
1. Oregon
2. California (I'm a sucker for gingers)
3. Texas (Just wow....)
You better run Charles....
Pandorac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States32 Posts
May 17 2011 04:19 GMT
#443
Voted!
I figure I don't really have the voice to support esports in a significant way, but she sure does!

I support someone who supports Starcraft!

Good luck Anna!
How long have only 2 drones been in gas!?
Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
May 17 2011 04:31 GMT
#444
On May 17 2011 13:15 johanngrunt wrote:
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

I'm sure Anna would recieve a lot of critique (or 'hate' as you put it) if she casted the GSL as well, their situation isn't really comparable. Anna gets a lot of auto-fans from iNcontroL aswell, if kelly started dating IdrA I'm convinced her fanbase would grow.

Wish I would vote, gl Anna!
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
May 17 2011 04:35 GMT
#445
She is hot. incontrol, how did you do it?!
Professional BattleCraft Player
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
May 17 2011 04:35 GMT
#446
she would most likely date HuK than Idra tough
@ggmonx
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 17 2011 04:38 GMT
#447
On May 17 2011 13:35 monx wrote:
she would most likely date HuK than Idra tough

Or moonglade.
SUSUGAM
Profile Joined November 2007
United States177 Posts
May 17 2011 04:55 GMT
#448
On May 17 2011 13:31 Phisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:15 johanngrunt wrote:
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

I'm sure Anna would recieve a lot of critique (or 'hate' as you put it) if she casted the GSL as well, their situation isn't really comparable. Anna gets a lot of auto-fans from iNcontroL aswell, if kelly started dating IdrA I'm convinced her fanbase would grow.

Wish I would vote, gl Anna!


Except kelly knows 10x more about the game than Anna... And has a shitload more to do with the community than 'Incontrol's girlfiend.'

Pageants are disgusting, I can't condone this nonsense and can't stress how ridiculously unrelated to Starcraft this is. (which is what people are trying to make it out to be)
bisufanboi049
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
May 17 2011 04:59 GMT
#449
I have yet to see people who find beauty pageants "horrible" "disgusting" etc, that themselves, are good looking. Quite ironic yes?
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 17 2011 05:00 GMT
#450
On May 17 2011 13:55 SUSUGAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:31 Phisk wrote:
On May 17 2011 13:15 johanngrunt wrote:
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

I'm sure Anna would recieve a lot of critique (or 'hate' as you put it) if she casted the GSL as well, their situation isn't really comparable. Anna gets a lot of auto-fans from iNcontroL aswell, if kelly started dating IdrA I'm convinced her fanbase would grow.

Wish I would vote, gl Anna!


Except kelly knows 10x more about the game than Anna... And has a shitload more to do with the community than 'Incontrol's girlfiend.'

Pageants are disgusting, I can't condone this nonsense and can't stress how ridiculously unrelated to Starcraft this is. (which is what people are trying to make it out to be)


Eh? Anna has done a lot for this community and even though this has nothing to do with Starcraft, it's always nice to be able to help someone out when she tries to do so much for us.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
May 17 2011 05:06 GMT
#451
On May 17 2011 13:35 noobcakes wrote:
She is hot. incontrol, how did you do it?!
He's got the looks, the big beefy muscles and a top tier protoss.

Anyone can get a gorgeous lady if they possess these characteristics.
I <3 Plexa.
BoilingHell
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada98 Posts
May 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#452
On May 17 2011 14:06 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:35 noobcakes wrote:
She is hot. incontrol, how did you do it?!
He's got the looks, the big beefy muscles and a top tier zerg.

Anyone can get a gorgeous lady if they possess these characteristics.

Fixed
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
May 17 2011 05:17 GMT
#453
On May 17 2011 14:08 BoilingHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 14:06 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On May 17 2011 13:35 noobcakes wrote:
She is hot. incontrol, how did you do it?!
He's got the looks, the big beefy muscles and a top tier zerg.

Anyone can get a gorgeous lady if they possess these characteristics.

Fixed


Bit mean to imply that idra belongs to him.
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
BoilingHell
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada98 Posts
May 17 2011 05:19 GMT
#454
On May 17 2011 14:17 SpectralFremen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 14:08 BoilingHell wrote:
On May 17 2011 14:06 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On May 17 2011 13:35 noobcakes wrote:
She is hot. incontrol, how did you do it?!
He's got the looks, the big beefy muscles and a top tier zerg.

Anyone can get a gorgeous lady if they possess these characteristics.

Fixed


Bit mean to imply that idra belongs to him.

Geoff started dating Anna before Sc2 came out, and he played Zerg in BW.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 05:22:46
May 17 2011 05:20 GMT
#455
On May 17 2011 13:15 johanngrunt wrote:
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

Anyway gl Anna.


How can you even compare the two let alone bring that up in this thread?

World of difference.

Besides that, this isn't the thread to do it in.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
May 17 2011 05:25 GMT
#456
Uncontrolable fighting!

All the people dissing her are just jealous haters.
Mormagil
Profile Joined May 2011
35 Posts
May 17 2011 05:28 GMT
#457
On May 17 2011 13:55 SUSUGAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:31 Phisk wrote:
On May 17 2011 13:15 johanngrunt wrote:
Funny how much love Anna is getting and how much shit Kelly is taking. Stark contrast.

I'm sure Anna would recieve a lot of critique (or 'hate' as you put it) if she casted the GSL as well, their situation isn't really comparable. Anna gets a lot of auto-fans from iNcontroL aswell, if kelly started dating IdrA I'm convinced her fanbase would grow.

Wish I would vote, gl Anna!


Except kelly knows 10x more about the game than Anna... And has a shitload more to do with the community than 'Incontrol's girlfiend.'

Pageants are disgusting, I can't condone this nonsense and can't stress how ridiculously unrelated to Starcraft this is. (which is what people are trying to make it out to be)


I think it does have something to do with starcraft. It shows that we are a community that can and will actively rally behind something or someone. It shows that we, unlike many other communities, will actively support those who support us. This makes the starcraft community very appealing to advertisers and companies for potential sponsorships. I, for one, feel this is a good thing.

We have done things similar to this before. Remember back like 6 months ago when there was that poll for top video game villan of all time, and Kerriganwas down by a couple of thousand votes. Then Husky made a video calling our attention to the problem and we went on to crush our way to victory! Or when Day[9] was going for the shorty award on twitter. Well, he didn't actually win, but he came damn close against someone with a far larger fan base.

I'm well aware that some cynic is going to quote me and say "so you sayin we know how to be lead like sheep, derp derp." But I think it shows that we can band together well and we look our for our own.

And has she done anything for the community? I mean, what do you want? Do you have to commentate the GSL before you can say you are a contributer? Ms. America is one of the most uptight, rip at your opponent "Mean Girls" style contests in existence. She is a contestant, and she is willing to get up and publicly say she likes this game. Well, you got my vote.
"You know, its at times like this that I really wish I had listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why? What did she tell you?" "I dont know, I didnt listen."
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
May 17 2011 05:39 GMT
#458
On May 14 2011 20:24 Demon Hunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 09:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:26 chaoser wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:17 chaoser wrote:
On May 14 2011 09:05 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 14 2011 08:55 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
[quote]

While I personally don't mind, it's about being inconsistent. When admins are inconsistent about the rules they enforce they deserve to be called out about it.

Incontrol: "love you fudd but we don't do voting on TL anymore."
Now on SotG he's saying, "It's a Miss USA pageant.. WHO CARES?"



Not every thread is created equal. This is a big deal to somebody in this community. Not an "upvote me so my blog gets more hits" or thing like that. 100% consistency only matters if everybody is equal; they're not.


So how does the staff determine who is "more equal" than the other? Fuddx is a longtime vet and a longtime contributor so I don't really see much difference between him and uncontrollable.


To suggest that Fudd's was on the same level is just lying to yourself, and that's nothing against the guy.


I'm not, I think Fuddx deserves for his thread not to have been closed down if anna deserves for this one not to be closed down. He has a star. Uncontrollable doesn't. That in an of itself is very telling of how much more of a contributor Fuddx is. He's been here since forever (2002) and he's contributed greatly to the website.


You missed the point. It has less to do with the individual and more to do with what you're voting for. Miss USA is a pretty big deal. It's not like you have to worry about a lot of other threads on this level popping up.

edit: The part you didn't quote of my post is also the most important. Exceptions to rules have to be allowed, it's just the way it is. No exceptions leads to more complaints than that.



Miss USA is a big deal to her, and I would guess Inc. To alot of people however it isn't one. Can you honestly tell me that a forum full of gamers would actively go out and vote for this if someone hadn't pointed out there was someone they have a connection with in it? Miss USA is a big deal to specific people, just as what Fudd was doing would have been a big deal for him at the time. Prioritizing who is and isn't an exception to the rules you mention should come down to the user, not the instance being brought up.


If you can't objectively tell me that the Miss USA pageant isn't a bigger deal than a balloon competition, well then I guess there's nowhere to go with this conversation.

BUT, it's still getting away from the main point. Exceptions to rules should always be allowed. TL isn't a group of fascists who can't understand circumstances. At the same time though, they still do want to enforce their rules. This whole thing is so blown out of proportion it's ridiculous. People's supposed sense of injustice on forums is always ridiculous exaggerated.


Can't tell? Miss USA means literally nothing to me, no pageant does. Alot of the things that are involved at least in its portrayal is very shallow and demeaning to both women and american culture. I have seen the stuff Fudd does, it makes me smile, he does this for parties for children and the like and actively makes a difference in the lives of people. It will always be about perspective, don't think to tell people which is a bigger deal and which isn't it comes down to the person's perspective.


I think at the end of the day, whether conscious or subconsciously, people in general are more lenient to females than males. Anna is a girl and her thread stays open, Fudd (I presume) is not and his thread is closed. I'm not saying TL mods are right or wrong in their decision, but simply pointing out a trend in society. Take the below for example:

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4999258/A-spurned-pash-that-turned-to-bash

Student Christine Te Rangimarie Makaore now lives in Palmerston North, but in 2008 she was in Alexandra, working in the hospitality industry.

About 2am on November 16, 2008, Makaore returned from a night’s drinking to the backpackers hotel she was staying at.

Rather than stagger to her own bed, she entered somebody else’s room and started kissing a man that she didn’t know.

It’s not clear if the man was awake or not, or if she just jumped on top of him and started work.

Another man staying in the same room fled to the backpackers’ lounge.

As would be sensible if certain activities are happening in your room.

Makaore disengaged her tongue and followed him, hurling abuse.

She asked for a fight, but the man said no.

Undeterred, Makaore punched him in the chest repeatedly for about a minute.

The man curled up to try to protect himself and managed to get up and run off, but Makaore followed, still throwing punches.

I’m not sure why she was so offended the room-mate left the room.

At 9.30am the man went outside to get some food from his car.

Unfortunately for him, Makaore followed him and started kicking him in the legs.

She then grabbed his backpack, pulled out his iPod and threw it to the ground.

She then threw the man’s cellphone against his car and hurled other items on to a nearby garage roof.

The man under attack managed to scoop his iPod off the ground and take shelter in his car, locking Makaore out.

That didn’t please her, so she smashed the car windscreen with her fist.

The man drove off to safety but suffered from a sore wrist, a bruised head and grazes to his legs.

Ouch. Having someone punch their way through your windscreen would be somewhat alarming.

The judge noted Makaore’s lengthy list of driving offences, saying she was probably the North Island champion at notching up driving-while-disqualified convictions.

He said it was unfair for Makaore to “use her width” and “throw her weight around” against people likely to have been smaller.

On two assault charges, two of wilful damage and two sentence breach charges, Makaore was sentenced to 225 hours’ community work and six hours’ supervision.

Okay, so imagine this now. Imagine Makaore was a man and the victims were women.

If a man jumped on a sleeping woman and started kissing her, and then chased another woman, hitting her in the chest multiple times, then the next day saw her again, kicked her multile times, grabbed her gear and smashed it, and then smashed the windscreen of her car, well what sort of penalty do you think he would get? Is there anyway it would not be jail time?


http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/05/if_she_was_a_man.html


I disagree with you. Taking the other side of it, let's say iNcontroL was in a voting contest for something big, like the chance to represent the USA in the Olympic sport of bear-wrestling. You really think TL wouldn't support it and let a voting thread stay up? It has more to do with the importance of the competition and the importance of the individual to the community than their gender.

Also, that story was hilarious, and yes there are many examples of double-standards for different genders. I just don't think this is one of them.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
May 17 2011 05:53 GMT
#459
On May 17 2011 13:59 Greatness wrote:
I have yet to see people who find beauty pageants "horrible" "disgusting" etc, that themselves, are good looking. Quite ironic yes?

I find myself pretty attractive : ) but I dont condone of beauty pageants either. I think they objectify women.

But if this is what Anna wants to do then it's her choice. She is apart of the community so we should support her.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
BoilingHell
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 08:02:08
May 17 2011 07:37 GMT
#460
On May 17 2011 14:53 Absolutionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:59 Greatness wrote:
I have yet to see people who find beauty pageants "horrible" "disgusting" etc, that themselves, are good looking. Quite ironic yes?

I find myself pretty attractive : ) but I dont condone of beauty pageants either. I think they objectify women.

But if this is what Anna wants to do then it's her choice. She is apart of the community so we should support her.

You cannot remove objectification from competition. Be it women's bodies in beauty pageants, or people's ability to play starcraft. The very goal of competition is to objectify things that we normally cannot.
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