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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
I'm just wondering if there is much of a competitive Starcraft scene in any form what so ever. I know there's scenes for CS, COD, etc. And I know that, because we're delegated to the SEA server, there's a major scene there, but I haven't heard much about a purely Australian scene. If there is a lack of one, do you think it would be viable to start one up post-release? | ||
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Atlare
Australia893 Posts
On June 15 2010 16:53 Crucius wrote: Hey guys, I'm just wondering if there is much of a competitive Starcraft scene in any form what so ever. I know there's scenes for CS, COD, etc. And I know that, because we're delegated to the SEA server, there's a major scene there, but I haven't heard much about a purely Australian scene. If there is a lack of one, do you think it would be viable to start one up post-release? Besides from tourneys for SC2, small RL lans and maybe WCG i don't know, heres to hoping. | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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k!llua
Australia895 Posts
There's also a sizeable tourney coming whenever the next phase of the beta starts. deL's taking care of it. And this is only semi-related, but I pretty much came into the SC scene the same way it sounds like you came to TL - from another game, specifically an FPS. From what I've found, the community's pretty generous and welcoming. At any rate they're more sociable than the fuckwits that still play CS, so you might as well hang around for that reason alone. | ||
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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schiznak
Australia258 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:00 k!llua wrote: Cybergamer (www.cybergamer.com.au) are running an AUD $3000 SC2 ladder post-release. There's also a sizeable tourney coming whenever the next phase of the beta starts. deL's taking care of it. And this is only semi-related, but I pretty much came into the SC scene the same way it sounds like you came to TL - from another game, specifically an FPS. From what I've found, the community's pretty generous and welcoming. At any rate they're more sociable than the fuckwits that still play CS, so you might as well hang around for that reason alone. although i hear the $3000 ladder is only gonna happen in queensland, so its got moonglade's name all over it | ||
GTR
51449 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:00 k!llua wrote: At any rate they're more sociable than the fuckwits that still play CS, so you might as well hang around for that reason alone. holy god yes i played cs:s at a competitive level for a year or so, the community is full of egotistic douchebags where theres lots of dick sucking and e-peen competitions. | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
although i hear the $3000 ladder is only gonna happen in queensland, so its got moonglade's name all over it That's gotta suck... was hoping for more of a country wide sorta ordeal lol | ||
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Atlare
Australia893 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:05 GTR wrote: holy god yes i played cs:s at a competitive level for a year or so, the community is full of egotistic douchebags where theres lots of dick sucking and e-peen competitions. Played a season of CEVO in CS:S (not CEVO-P) and it was an awful experience, they were all dickheads who thought they were so good at a game until they lost and suddenly it was either A) Lag B) Hacks or C) Misclicking/mouse problems. Not to mention they are elitists who cant play anyway | ||
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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midgettoes
Australia180 Posts
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midgettoes
Australia180 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:10 nataziel wrote: Only queensland eh? I might have to brush up on my skills :D From Cybergamer website: It's that easy: if you are from Geelong, Ballarat or Shepparton you are set to compete in a ferociously fun eSports competition. If you live elsewhere, perhaps you should hassle your local game centre to contact us to find out how to get involved! Seems they meant Victoria, not Queensland! | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
Hm... maybe I should organise something small... | ||
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schiznak
Australia258 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:16 midgettoes wrote: From Cybergamer website: Seems they meant Victoria, not Queensland! :< i wish they meant Sydney, not Queensland | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
also state of origin BW competition coming up. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
The scene is shaping up to be really good, and to be honest, not very strong in terms of competition, basically at the moment you just have to hope the community doesnt get split by this stupid SEA crap :\ edit: also the $3000 comp is anywhere you can get a participating net cafe, so if you want to play it in Sydney, go around to net cafes asking if they'd be interested in participating (basically free money since people who otherwise wouldn't go there will pay to go there to participate in it) | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
P.S. please for the love of god don't segregate us blizzard | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On June 15 2010 19:12 dethrawr wrote: The community will be good I think, but when it comes to traditional events like wcg, WCG Australia will continue to suck ass as it has always done..hopefully we get more good sponsors/organisers stepping up to the plate with well-run tournaments. On US server. P.S. please for the love of god don't segregate us blizzard QFT. I'd like to get into the competitive side this time around with SC2, gonna need to mass up some games though - that said my 2's partner and I did quite well during beta p1. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
It's really easy to keep competition up assuming you get all the players on the one server with chat rooms. A few websites out there like cybergamer and TL where you can meet up and publicise events. Just host some long-term tournies. Either a regular single or double elimination tour held every weekend, or a state competition, or a team competition, etc. As long as it's frequent it will get people socialising and motivated to practice. Something like the GB&Ire tourneys by Flicky or SC1's SoO. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
On June 15 2010 20:09 deL wrote: Blizzard hates us we can't get a healthy SC scene even if we try, I've given up pending release. Massive sad face! We need you deL  .Are you still gona host transtasman 2 in phase 2? | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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HaNdFisH
Australia119 Posts
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
Or is it defaulted to the version you buy. | ||
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schiznak
Australia258 Posts
On June 15 2010 23:31 HaNdFisH wrote: With lots of people opting to go to the US server rather than the default SEA server, it's going to be hard to have proper competitive scene in Aus. yeah i made a thread a few days ago about this link generally speaking you get a better connection to US than you do to SEA because the route that our data takes to SEA is bad quality and very long. Just change your adress on your battle.net account to somewhere in america and you are good to go on the US servers | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
Just change your adress on your battle.net account to somewhere in america and you are good to go on the US servers Ah, sweet as, cheers :D | ||
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Tenz
Australia106 Posts
On June 15 2010 17:05 GTR wrote: holy god yes i played cs:s at a competitive level for a year or so, the community is full of egotistic douchebags where theres lots of dick sucking and e-peen competitions. Hahahah I couldn't agree more with you! and I actually reckonise your name from the gotgames.com.au forums.. I've been playing again since the beta went down, going into the Cevo ODC. The Australian CSS Community is fucking horrible! I cant wait till SC2 comes back up :D:D | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
On June 15 2010 16:55 Mecha_cl wrote: Besides from tourneys for SC2, small RL lans and maybe WCG i don't know, heres to hoping. =o | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 15 2010 20:09 deL wrote: Blizzard hates us we can't get a healthy SC scene even if we try, I've given up pending release. It's really easy to keep competition up assuming you get all the players on the one server with chat rooms. A few websites out there like cybergamer and TL where you can meet up and publicise events. Just host some long-term tournies. Either a regular single or double elimination tour held every weekend, or a state competition, or a team competition, etc. As long as it's frequent it will get people socialising and motivated to practice. Something like the GB&Ire tourneys by Flicky or SC1's SoO. what happened to the AUS BW website? Teamaus.org or w/e ... revive it and create an aussie community. That will make things easier than trying to handle an entire nation of a community through secondary websites like TL. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
On June 16 2010 01:41 Xeris wrote: what happened to the AUS BW website? Teamaus.org or w/e ... revive it and create an aussie community. That will make things easier than trying to handle an entire nation of a community through secondary websites like TL. atm the main hub for aus sc2 seems to be (other than teamliquid obviously) http://www.cybergamer.com.au/forums/1087/ | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On June 16 2010 01:41 Xeris wrote: what happened to the AUS BW website? Teamaus.org or w/e ... revive it and create an aussie community. That will make things easier than trying to handle an entire nation of a community through secondary websites like TL. Oscillate stopped paying the bills T_T I liked that site too, was just picking up activity. TL is great though, very accommodating and any events run through here benefit both TL and those running it. Just out of loyalty any events I may do will include TL as a major part of it On June 15 2010 20:32 Ftrunkz wrote: Massive sad face! We need you deL .Are you still gona host transtasman 2 in phase 2? Correction, YOU need me to pay for your groceries I might do, though I will be in Canberra for the holidays without a SC2-friendly PC so it really just depends on timing. Will try get back to Sydney in time especially seeing as Dox already sent the prizemoney! | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On June 16 2010 13:55 deL wrote: Oscillate stopped paying the bills T_T I liked that site too, was just picking up activity. TL is great though, very accommodating and any events run through here benefit both TL and those running it. Just out of loyalty any events I may do will include TL as a major part of it Correction, YOU need me to pay for your groceries I might do, though I will be in Canberra for the holidays without a SC2-friendly PC so it really just depends on timing. Will try get back to Sydney in time especially seeing as Dox already sent the prizemoney! If you need any help in organising or administration I'm more than happy to help you out in that regard instead of play. | ||
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Yukidasu
Australia125 Posts
It would be very disappointing if the scene disintegrates due to such a stupid problem after such a long wait. | ||
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USn
United States376 Posts
On June 16 2010 00:11 Tenz wrote: Hahahah I couldn't agree more with you! and I actually reckonise your name from the gotgames.com.au forums.. I've been playing again since the beta went down, going into the Cevo ODC. The Australian CSS Community is fucking horrible! I cant wait till SC2 comes back up :D:D I don't know what it is about cs, it's like that the world round. SC definitely has the best game community I've found. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
The average age of that community must have been 12 and finding 25 intelligent players was impossible. We would bring along ~18 good people then stuff the rest of our raids with scrubs and just carry them. WC3 before that wasn't much better. The Team Liquid community is by far the most intelligent and enjoyable gaming community I have ever been a part of. I look forward to Australia showing the rest of the world that we can be competitive SC2 players too! | ||
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Champi
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Tenz
Australia106 Posts
On June 17 2010 00:36 Champi wrote: aside from moonglade are there any other top level sc2 players worth keeping an eye on for this tournament? Me. No I'm kidding. Will probably get absolutely rolled after my cheese fails  P | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Good thing I'm a Korean Australian though, hopefully my genes will give me a boost | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On June 20 2010 03:32 youngminii wrote: Oh damn, an Australian SC2 scene? I'd love to get involved, although I only started playing Starcraft as of SC2 beta's patch 11. Good thing I'm a Korean Australian though, hopefully my genes will give me a boost You have +5 to RTS skills then. To go along with your Australian racial talents of +5 to sports, and +10 to easy-going. | ||
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
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KJH
Australia199 Posts
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
On June 16 2010 22:50 dejai wrote: I live in Sydney and I am really interested in competitive starcraft 2 I was diamond league before the reset. Australia has a lot of really good players (moonglade) and we really should organize something. i've been thinking about this and definitely it would be worthwhile to build up a sc2 competitive community. I'm sure there will be enough interest and participation, especially for such a major release as starcraft2. Starting small would be appropriate, a weekly/monthly meetup for example at a certain internet cafe on a friday night where anyone interested could drop in after work/uni/(school?) for a small round robin tourney, or just casual matches, watching a live cast or replays, having dinner, discussion on the game or hanging out in general. The face-to-face social aspect would be essential for building a core group to grow and expand the community from (not to mention fun). If I were to organize this, it would be in Sydney, since that's where I live, but other people could get a similar thing going in their nearest city. Considering it would be profitable for them, I'm sure a net cafe would be willing to host us weekly/monthly and give us an allocated space and perhaps a bit of promotion for the event (negotiation and $$ involved though of course). It would take time to grow though thats for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if in the early days it was only a couple of people that showed. I have a number of rl friends that will be playing sc2, so thats a start at least. Plus i'm sure there'll be enthusiastic TL.net-ers keen for good times. It will take time for word to spread and enthusiasm to grow, but I have no doubt that it will. We have TL and cybergames to spread the word on for starters, and other promotional channels if we see fit. What would kick it off nicely I think is if we had big names attending, and I'm sure skilled aussie players will arise post release. The next step is having a central website as some previous posters mentioned. One which would over-arch these weekly/monthly meetups and could be a platform to better organise things such as ladders or country-wide tournaments. A great example of what I'm thinking of is the Australian/NZ Team Fortress 2 site ozfortress.com. I got into competitive level tf2 for a while (great mature community btw) and this was THE site for aussies. It has regular leagues spanning the summer and winter seasons, active forums for news/strat discussions/recruitment/general chat, player and clan profiles, and regular posting of demos (replays). Something like this is absolutely necessary for the aussie sc2 community to flourish. It wouldn't be a replacement for TL, but it would definitely be nice to have our own forums to discuss things, look for training buddies, organise events, etc. Money of course will be a main driver in the success of this. Money for facilities (ie. net cafe), for domain name rental, payment of a web designer (if necessary), and for offering of cash prizes. If anyone has any ideas or criticisms of mine lets discuss it here and see what we can come up with collectively. If we have a solid plan that I'm sure we could build something out of, I wouldn't have a problem with injecting money into it. Also, since starcraft 2 will be such a massive game on the retail, and international e-sports level (not to mention the fun level), I believe the community will be able to grow quite fast if we lay a solid foundation. Therefore the community will be able to self-perpetuate without further injections from the initial organizers, and revenues from donations, or tournament entry fees etc would be able to cover costs and perhaps more. In the meantime i'm going to get in contact with the ozfortress dudes and ask them about how they started up, what kinda things they had to deal with, and whats made them successful. Lets hear the ideas/flaming/relevant past experiences! | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Anyway, setting up regular tournaments and leagues is easy - the hard part is getting a prize, getting in touch with a large portion of the players, and getting a website to run it all from (also necessary for any sponsors). Also I think a lot of the Aus/NZ stuff should include some of the more competitive SEAsian nations like at least Singapore. Though have exclusively Aus/NZ stuff too. If someone can at all run a website I'd be happy to help organise some ongoing tournaments including Aus/NZ or all SEA nation teams, large elimination tournaments like the TransTasman Tournaments, leagues like SoO, and other team-league style things with relegation and all that fun stuff. | ||
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
Well except maybe one thing On July 03 2010 20:25 bostic wrote: . A great example of what I'm thinking of is the Australian/NZ Team Fortress 2 site ozfortress.com. I got into competitive level tf2 for a while (great mature community btw) and this was THE site for aussies. hahaha | ||
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Shocker88
Australia54 Posts
I guess my main reservation was whether it was needed. I didn't want to invest countless hours into a site which would never meet the needs of the Aussie SC2 community, so I have two questions I guess: 1. Does this require a new website, or is there one on the way/just small changes needed to some of the current sites around. 2. What features would you like to see on the site - a forum is inevitable, news is nice etc. But what else would you like to see? | ||
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Samus
Australia47 Posts
I'm a WA player would love to get better at SC2 :p | ||
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
On July 03 2010 22:43 Samus wrote: WA gets no love XD I'm a WA player would love to get better at SC2 :p I'm in WA. PM me your steam, skype or xfire. We'll make a scene here one friend request at a time. | ||
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Deleted User 55994
949 Posts
On July 03 2010 21:57 Acies wrote: I agree with everything you said bostic. Well except maybe one thing hahaha Ozfortress is still around? Damn. Used to live on that site in like 2001/2002! | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 03 2010 22:04 Shocker88 wrote: I work as a Web dev and have toyed with the idea of setting up a comprehensive website for the Australian community. One that allows people to discuss, talk about and run tourneys effectively. Essentially making up for the shortfalls that the Battle.net 2.0 has brought about. I guess my main reservation was whether it was needed. I didn't want to invest countless hours into a site which would never meet the needs of the Aussie SC2 community, so I have two questions I guess: 1. Does this require a new website, or is there one on the way/just small changes needed to some of the current sites around. 2. What features would you like to see on the site - a forum is inevitable, news is nice etc. But what else would you like to see? Point 1. - I'm not really sure about that one I think Del could answer that a little better, however if a new site is needed and some donations/whatnot is required please let me know I'd love to help. Unfortunately my IT skills have gone down the drain since I haven't kept up with the changing times and whatnot. I do think that it would be great to keep TL involved too in any way possible if we did have our own little "offshoot". Point 2. - Forums for sure, news would be great. I think integration in to the social aspect of the community would be a great thing to see, given the power of social media these days. I'm thinking about doing a lot of commentary/vods on youtube once sc2 goes live so even having some sort of vid-link would be cool I guess. One problem which a few friends and I were just discussing in my trilo server - was that there are always problems and it's very 'slow' establishing an Aussie/NZ community for games, given that the actual 'population' for it is a lot lower compared to the USA, euro, and obviously huge communities like TL. I do think it would be a bit of a struggle with this too, however given the power of the game, and the magnitude of players likely to play SC2 it might actually work in the end. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 03 2010 22:04 Shocker88 wrote: I work as a Web dev and have toyed with the idea of setting up a comprehensive website for the Australian community. One that allows people to discuss, talk about and run tourneys effectively. Essentially making up for the shortfalls that the Battle.net 2.0 has brought about. I guess my main reservation was whether it was needed. I didn't want to invest countless hours into a site which would never meet the needs of the Aussie SC2 community, so I have two questions I guess: 1. Does this require a new website, or is there one on the way/just small changes needed to some of the current sites around. 2. What features would you like to see on the site - a forum is inevitable, news is nice etc. But what else would you like to see? Well I hear teamaus.org is coming back, but other than that only cybergamer offers anything of interest and that is just a single forum without subsections (yet). Though a lot of tourneys will be run through there and I am not sure about other features they will implement upon release (e.g. replay or video uploads). Features to consider:
Maybe more to add later. Building a staff and co-operating with existing sites like Cybergamer would be important steps to starting out. Also, implementing as many features as possible as soon as possible would really help in keeping people interested instead of trying to promote a site that people go to and just see an empty forum and never log back on. Exposure would be easy with a few tourneys requiring registering on the site or at least visiting the site to check out the maps or replays or something. | ||
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Z.Kw
China297 Posts
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 04 2010 00:05 Acies wrote: teamaus.org appears to be domain parked when I visit it. Will be under a diff domain name but the site will probably be back. | ||
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Shocker88
Australia54 Posts
Not exactly sure who is in charge of the teamaus.org site, but feel free to PM me contact details (skype/msn etc) if you would like some help/would like to discuss the site. Hopefully we can get a good clean site going to accomodate the aus community - something we've struggled to do in Australia over various other games | ||
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Shocker88
Australia54 Posts
Obviously would have to decide upon how to handle the points/allocations etc, but would be a cool feature to run with..Any thoughts? | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 04 2010 01:58 Shocker88 wrote: I think it'd be nice to work out a ranking system too - not sure exactly how possibly the bigger (officialish) tourneys run on points - the bigger the more points at stake to work out the rank of players in the Aus scene. Obviously would have to decide upon how to handle the points/allocations etc, but would be a cool feature to run with..Any thoughts? Would be really easy to have rankings between Aussies if you just record results from Aus events. Make it like an ELO. Info from starcraftrankings.com or whatever that site was could be useful in ranking Aus players too. There are a ton of models to base it on too, like Tennis (you 'hold' your points, grand slams give more, etc.), ELO giving points for beating a player - more points if they were higher ranked, basic points for what round you progressed to, etc. I was an admin at teamaus.org towards the end, and I think the other active members at the time were dAncerS and Bman. Benz0r, Freezer and Oscillate are around somewhere too and they were running the show. I will try get some more info from benz0r. | ||
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Oowba
Australia79 Posts
On June 16 2010 22:50 dejai wrote: I live in Sydney and I am really interested in competitive starcraft 2 I was diamond league before the reset. Australia has a lot of really good players (moonglade) and we really should organize something. We do have a lot of good players (not pro but very good) i think it comes from playing with lag for so long tbh i couldn't imagine how much i will suck one day in the NEXT 50 years when telstra decide to stop being gay and we get our own server The thought of playing with 50ms makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside but also scares the crap out of me at the same time :< Really hope Starcraft kicks off here i think we have a lot to offer to Esports its just harder for us to show it | ||
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RisingTide
Australia769 Posts
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Oowba
Australia79 Posts
On July 04 2010 08:33 RisingTide wrote:assuming I don't chicken out and defect to the US servers You make a really good point whats going to happen to the ppl on optus :S i hardly see how they can compete competitively with 450+ ping to the SEA servers | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I'm probably going to surrender to Kotick and buy both the US and SEA versions of the game. | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 04 2010 10:26 youngminii wrote: Would totally love to see something actually be set up. I'm probably going to surrender to Kotick and buy both the US and SEA versions of the game. I'm going to be majorly pissed if that is the case. Here's hoping Blizzard can work something out. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 04 2010 11:12 deL wrote: It's like they realised our population is too small to be a large market so they decided to make us buy two copies to make up for it -.- Right - I read about some of their reasoning regarding it, and I certainly do understand... but what I don't get is how just about any game on steam can be played to any location, yet seemingly SC2 can't. It's like the rules have suddenly changed for SC2, and SC2 only. Meanwhile - If we did get a website and proper leagues going, I'd love to help out with commentaries and such. I'll be setting up my youtube channel soon to give some a go once I get some games going. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 04 2010 11:12 deL wrote: It's like they realised our population is too small to be a large market so they decided to make us buy two copies to make up for it -.- If that's the case, boy are they smart. | ||
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Z.Kw
China297 Posts
Say if Moonglade is on US server and Pinder is on SEA server you have the 2 best AU SC2 players split with 0 chance of games between them unless someone gets 2 copies of the game, and if other people register onto USA it will be even worse to keep together (like a tight community, imagine [TA] with Cam n sht playing on asia server while Del is a loner on ICCUP) unless you want to run a tourney for each... but yea GOOD WORK BLIZZARD. | ||
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On July 03 2010 22:04 Shocker88 wrote: I work as a Web dev and have toyed with the idea of setting up a comprehensive website for the Australian community. One that allows people to discuss, talk about and run tourneys effectively. Essentially making up for the shortfalls that the Battle.net 2.0 has brought about. ... 1. Does this require a new website, or is there one on the way/just small changes needed to some of the current sites around. 2. What features would you like to see on the site - a forum is inevitable, news is nice etc. But what else would you like to see? 1. I am going to say YES. Sites such as Cybergamer and TL.net are not suitable for our aussie needs at this point. That doesn't mean a new site has to replace them; they can work in unison. For example a thread on Cybergamer could announce a tournament on the new site, and vice versa. Teamaus has been mentioned, but to me it seems we don't know when or where it is coming back, and maybe we can't be certain that it is at all. Some people in this thread seem to understand the needs of a successful sc2 community site, and there's no guarantee these needs can be met by teamaus. Since we undoubtedly need an aussie/nz community site, and nothing clear or well defined is in existence/in the works, I feel we should strike now while the proverbial iron is hot. We definitely have the vision and enthusiasm to build the flagship site for the australia/nz sc2 competitive scene. The short answer to your question is yes, I think it is absolutely necessary, and there is a definite need for it. 2. DeL has given great suggestions, and also there are many model sites out there (TL.net, iCCup, ozfortress as i mentioned earlier) which we can gather ideas from and consolidate. I'll mention that I think the idea of a ranking system is excellent. Something similar to the ATP Rankings in Tennis was mentioned - competing in regular tournaments and leagues would give ranking points, and big annual tournaments would give the opportunity to win big points. At the end of the season, the top 16 ranked players for example would be eligible to attend an invitational for cash prizes and prestige - just a thought. This would be a pivotal feature for giving incentives to Australians, New Zealanders, Asian players, and even casual players to get involved in the scene. We could also work with Cybergames, and pre existing tournament series such as the Trans Tasman and State of Origin, and integrate their tourneys into our ranking system. Making it Happen We are off to a good start; Shocker88 has said he would be willing to contribute to web design, DeL has said he would be prepared to organize tournaments and leagues, Duckvillelol plans to do some commentary/vod content and a couple of other posters have said they would be happy to help with donations and general admin duties. Here's what I propose from this point. I have some time off in the next few days, and so I can flesh out in detail the specific features and components that we need for the site, and possibly do a rough mock-up of the main page. This should take a couple of days. I don't expect this to be perfect, so I'll post the writeup in this thread for feedback and suggestions. Once we have a solid idea to run with, I'll make a fresh TL.net thread describing the model comprehensively to try and get more people involved, perhaps even non-aussies/nzers would be willing to lend a hand. At that point, I'm hoping Shocker88 could get the ball rolling and actually begin work on the site. I am prepared to pay for domain name rental, and contribute to any other costs that may be necessary for starting up and perhaps compensating Shocker88 and any other web devs for time and effort spent working on this. Once we have a nice and clean central website up, anything is possible really. Leagues, tournaments, regular meetups, possible sponsorship, co-operation with other gaming establishments, and more. Once the Ball is Rolling A couple of posters have raised concerns that we may get off to a slow start, and players may log on to find an empty forum and never come back. The answer to this is that building up the site will take time, and there should be no delusions about an 'instant hit'. Perhaps it may take off sooner than we expect, perhaps later, but they key thing is that I'm sure it will happen. Also, like DeL mentioned, once we host a couple of tournaments or start a league with the site name on it, and registration done through the site, exposure and site activity will soar. I'm prepared to devote time daily to administrative duties such as updating ranks, organizing events, writing a site/community blog, posting news etc. I'm also willing to contribute money for tournament and league prizes, and I'm sure there are others willing to do the same if we are able to present a sound and reasonable plan. Therefore we won't fail for lack of commitment. Forming a dedicated core staff and admin group would be easy given the enthusiasm in this thread, but first we need to clearly map out the idea, and have a plan of how to get there. If we get the site up by release with at least some features working, we will be laughing. As soon as the Au/Nz masses start playing sc2, they will want a place to discuss the game, see the latest news, find out about tournaments happening, and just meet other people that share an interest in the game. Any other opinions/ideas or people wanting to contribute lets hear about it Edit: Just saw this, great example of awesome things a well established community can achieve: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133877 | ||
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Duckvillelol
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Hopefully I can get my own commentating thing going properly (see my recent blog post folks!) and I can help out that way - I'm also more than happy to help with looking after the forums and whatnot. Once del is back from Canberra I'm sure he can clear up a couple of things. | ||
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Shocker88
Australia54 Posts
I've asked Bostic to start working on detailing out features etc, so if you have any ideas for features please post them in here. Lastly, anyone else who has web design, or development experience would be greatly appreciated. Things will be quicker with more developers on board and I am average at design at the best of times - a designer would really be appreciated to help even if only for a few hours. Anyway post away - any features or anyone with experience willing to help! Good to see so many enthusiastic people here. | ||
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Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
I currently have webhosting, and would be happy to re-host another Aussie SC Community Website. But would need people to help manage it. Teamaus.org won't be available as it is parked for another 3 months. I could get us another domain name. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
I am of the opinion that if we really want this we have to get it all done and all done well or not at all - set up the site with a lot of innovative content and well presented before even trying to host a tourney or forums or whatever. Get a full staff ASAP too - that comes after we define the features and that which requires upkeep though. Once lots of that hosting and graphical stuff is sorted it's easy to start adding some content as there are a lot of ideas floating around. | ||
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
On July 05 2010 22:52 deL wrote: I am of the opinion that if we really want this we have to get it all done and all done well or not at all - set up the site with a lot of innovative content and well presented before even trying to host a tourney or forums or whatever. We can and will! I'll msn you tomorrow DeL so we can get further discussion of ideas going. Freezer_au i'll also pm you about possible webhosting, and get in touch with other posters in the thread that have expressed interest in helping out. As Shocker88 has mentioned, a web designer to design the site would be very helpful, and also someone to do a banner and a bit of artwork perhaps. A staff member from ozfortress has agreed to give a rundown of his thoughts and experiences of first starting their site. This should be insightful and a great help to us. | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 05 2010 23:26 bostic wrote: We can and will! I'll msn you tomorrow DeL so we can get further discussion of ideas going. Freezer_au i'll also pm you about possible webhosting, and get in touch with other posters in the thread that have expressed interest in helping out. As Shocker88 has mentioned, a web designer to design the site would be very helpful, and also someone to do a banner and a bit of artwork perhaps. A staff member from ozfortress has agreed to give a rundown of his thoughts and experiences of first starting their site. This should be insightful and a great help to us. Now that would be interesting to hear! I think we need to gather a collection of what tourneys are running/going to be run in aus so they can be noted down in the best way - anyone know of any planned events? I suppose that's partially limited given the 'no lan' option Edit: Trying to think of possible names for the site/community... ANZ SC! Get sponsorship from ANZ! bahahah. | ||
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deL
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
Any thoughts on getting the word about the site around? Or just by word of mouth? | ||
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KJH
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
I'd be very interested in contributing to the development of the site. I can use photoshop, so if you need graphics and stuff I can do that (as long as you tell me what you want, I'm pretty bad at coming up with my own designs). I can also do writeups etc. if you guys want. On the other hand I'd be extremely interested in helping to coordinate the Queensland scene. In particular I've had the idea kicking around in my head of starting an eSports club at UQ I just don't know if there'd really be the interest. I figure with the release of SC2 the interest in competitive gaming will really grow so I might just put some posters up around uni and see if I can elicit some interest. I'd be so so sooooo happy if we could organise something similar to the CSL. That said, if any of you guys are attending any of the universities in Brisbane I'd love to hear from you so we can try and get the scene going. There's even the possibility of forming a strong competitive lan scene in Brisbane too because we have a number of quality internet cafes in the city that could really be good to hold tournaments in. Gawd, talking about what could be really gets me so excited... >_> | ||
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GTR
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nataziel
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cos 5 stars is better than 1 | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 07 2010 23:28 GTR wrote: Kangacraft! ^_^ Cute as. | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
One of my friends mentioned "As long as it doesn't have 'oz' in it" - given that the word has been done to death on gaming websites now -_- | ||
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k!llua
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
On July 07 2010 23:32 nataziel wrote: SouthernCrossCraft: cos 5 stars is better than 1 I like the idea of using Southern Cross in the name of something, perhaps for a tournament/league - eg 'southern cross starleague' | ||
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sluggaslamoo
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Aeropunk
Australia255 Posts
SC/SC -or- SC SC (imagine them overlapping and in cool font) or even SC² (has a 'nerdish' feeling to it though) or my favorite - Crikeycraft! | ||
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Crib
Australia3 Posts
also http://www.sc2.net.au will be up and running upon retail release. | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 08 2010 16:22 Crib wrote: a few great dudes have created a irc channel on irc.gamesurge.net @ #sc2.au also http://www.sc2.net.au will be up and running upon retail release. Sounds good, but more details? | ||
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JaspluR
Australia174 Posts
i think there was like 18-20 users in phase 1?? and hardly any posts in the forum.. i was going to buy a vbulletin forum license and start up a community but was also scared to spend so much money and time and not getting anywhere after seeing nothing happen with sc2.net.au btw i think a community based site is better (like TL), rather than whats on sc2.net.au - describing the game.. and i think although TL doesnt use vbulletin or anything its much more user friendly and could even add portals and the likes for rankings etc (maybe this could be easier than just coding everything ourselves) im happy to help out organise some comps, admin the forums, graphics, writeups, or help out with payments if needed - would be great to see a huge aussie sc2 community site/forum | ||
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Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
aussiestarcraft.com or.net StarcraftAustralia.com or .net | ||
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
On July 09 2010 19:35 JaspluR wrote: yeah, sc2.net.au i think made by remmius? talked to him in phase 1 he was very keen on getting a community going and had already made a site and forum but it was VERY slow to kick off.. i think there was like 18-20 users in phase 1?? and hardly any posts in the forum.. i was going to buy a vbulletin forum license and start up a community but was also scared to spend so much money and time and not getting anywhere after seeing nothing happen with sc2.net.au btw i think a community based site is better (like TL), rather than whats on sc2.net.au - describing the game.. and i think although TL doesnt use vbulletin or anything its much more user friendly and could even add portals and the likes for rankings etc (maybe this could be easier than just coding everything ourselves) im happy to help out organise some comps, admin the forums, graphics, writeups, or help out with payments if needed - would be great to see a huge aussie sc2 community site/forum nice to see more enthusiasm. I think many people are really excited to see a big, active Australian sc2 community. We've actually finished initial planning and now work on the site has more or less started. Once some basic forums are up we'll invite the people who are interested to discuss and refine the plans and perhaps assign some roles. | ||
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JaspluR
Australia174 Posts
to the people who played source, what were your aliases lol and yep the 1.6/source community is fucked with immature idiots :S | ||
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youngminii
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deL
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On July 09 2010 22:57 deL wrote: Will contact a few guys about recruiting some staff for the site once some of the tasks and requirements are set down in the mean time. Sounds awesome, now that the beta is back up if anyone has any fun replays please send them over, I'm looking for some replays to commentate - with an Aussie inflection. :D | ||
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Shocker88
Australia54 Posts
This project is going ahead as Del/Duck/Bostic have said - keep an eye out for more information in the next few weeks. I am still in need of a designer, graphic designer or anything similar who can help keep the site looking pretty. Even if you can only spare a few hours PM me here. Also anyone else looking to help PM me here, preferably looking for people who can help develop or design the site - we'll gather staff for the site closer to release. Cheers | ||
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-Genome-
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I used to be an writer for gamereplays when i got into competitive RTS via the CNC scene, but I feel these days that writing is largely overshadowed by video content of any kind. Also being on the committee for the gaming club at Melbourne Uni, I've organised a tournament for every week of the semester, one of which will be SC2, I wish they all were, but apparently people play other games . I hope I can really help out the aussie scene, and I know for sure I'll be doing all I can in Melbourne.Long Live the Scene! | ||
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Elder
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bostic
Australia41 Posts
So the site is finally up - SCOceania.com; its still very much in its infancy, yet a lot of effort and teamwork has gone into getting this far. Expect to see a lot of improvements and a lot more content over the next couple of months. In the meantime go sign up and lets get the Australian/NZ sc2 community rolling. We're hosting a $200 2v2 tournament to kick off the launch. | ||
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