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For the guy with the post about the people complaining randoming "non-cm heroes". Gamemode all random. Enemies all carries, we had a shitty, but at least a bit more balanced lineup. Yet, we got fucking wrecked. You might be able to pick good heroes, but they don't make you a good player. I was Gondar. Sad day for me so far. Being 0-6.
And someone pelase tell me what went wrong for us in that game: 153364328 I knoew, we let it go too late. but before 40 mins.
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Dire lineup looks sick for AR, not sure why you think it's bad. Sure lycan is pretty questionable and he'd have to jungle in that lineup but it could be worse.
Your lineup looks much worse tbh.
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Lalalaland34503 Posts
I'd have taken Radiant over Dire lineup any day. Tinker mid, BH offlane, Troll + Dazzle supporting the AM in the safelane. Support troll is actually pretty legit.
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Dire lineup is strong as hell. Dat -armor and +% dmg stack.
On March 21 2013 02:50 Firebolt145 wrote: I'd have taken Radiant over Dire lineup any day. Tinker mid, BH offlane, Troll + Dazzle supporting the AM in the safelane. Support troll is actually pretty legit. Have fun getting destroyed. Drow solo top can farm up easily, SF will have an easy time mid with Venge roaming to help (Venge can also kill BH easily together with Drow if she buys truesight). Weaver won't die bot and will have levels and some farm. At the same time Lycan is freefarming the jungle, and can easily go for Rosh. You lose 2 lanes, are up against freefarm Lycan and can't shut down their offlaner, they also get insane dps boosts come midgame, while all you have is your Bfury AM with ~1k hp and no amor, a Travels Tinker if he didn't get fucked over too hard by Venge, and 3 underleveled heroes with low farm who all need levels. I don't see how you're supposed to win this.
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Easy win for dire's lineup. Dire has stronger lanes and radiant has no way to put pressure on dire in the early-midgame. Come late midgame radiant will just get wrecked without any lockdown on lycan and weaver, meanwhile drow and sf do too much damage to ignore.
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Oh I might add, that killscore was 0-12 after 6 minutes and something like 10-38 at 20 mins, which was GG time.
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I dunno FB, dire lineup has a) insane right clicks (lycan howl, drow/vs auras, SF aura, hell even bugs) b) better lanes (ur never killing weaver, but BH is killable and easier to zone) c) better late game (4 semi or hard carries who even kinda inter-support each other with auras and stuffs) d) more push (okay this is mostly jsut those right clicks I was talking about) e) more disable (pre-sheep on tink, since otherwise radiant only have dazzle for "disable").
Radiant has vastly better split push and counter-push, but without BH having an insane game I don't see how they win. Way too many opposing heroes that need some serious keeping down and not nearly enough "do shit" heroes.
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On March 21 2013 03:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Radiant has vastly better split push No, they don't.
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On March 21 2013 03:10 maru~ wrote:No, they don't.
Tinker/AM is much better splitpush than lycan.
I mean, you can make arguments that lycan is a better split pusher than either of them, but them combined is stronger than lycan. Especially since lycan probably can't kill either of them if they contest his pushes 1v1.
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On March 21 2013 03:13 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:10 maru~ wrote:On March 21 2013 03:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Radiant has vastly better split push No, they don't. Tinker/AM is much better splitpush than lycan. I mean, you can make arguments that lycan is a better split pusher than either of them, but them combined is stronger than lycan. Especially since lycan probably can't kill either of them if they contest his pushes 1v1. But SF, Drow and Weaver are good splitpushers as well? Also Lycan and Weaver are literally unkillable against that lineup, while Tinker and even AM can be killed quite easily if Venge/Drow catch them offguard.
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This thread is for QQ'ing right? so I guess I will drop in and nerd rage.
I am fucking done playing against / with Drow Rangers. This hero needs removing from the game imo. It's fucking retarded, its way too noob friendly and once they get critical hits its pretty much impossible to escape them. Worse, the only people who seem to play this hero are solo / selfish assholes that dont call missing, don't contribute any help in general, and worst of all, they run away / shadow blade out of team fights.
I just got done playing as SK in a 1 hour 20 min match (something ridiculous like 50-52, close game) where the final team battle the drow ranger on our team decides to shadow blade away to the shop during what would have been the final team fight / our win to buy a battle fury. A BATTLE FURY. He then proceeds to solo jungle (??????) whilst typing in capital acrylics that I assume raging at us in russian.
There I'm done venting 
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it's an unwritten rule that anyone that insta-picks Drow is utter trash, so don't feel bad about that. Personally I relish every time a drow dies.
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Lalalaland34503 Posts
On March 21 2013 02:52 maru~ wrote:Dire lineup is strong as hell. Dat -armor and +% dmg stack. Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 02:50 Firebolt145 wrote: I'd have taken Radiant over Dire lineup any day. Tinker mid, BH offlane, Troll + Dazzle supporting the AM in the safelane. Support troll is actually pretty legit. Have fun getting destroyed. Drow solo top can farm up easily, SF will have an easy time mid with Venge roaming to help (Venge can also kill BH easily together with Drow if she buys truesight). Weaver won't die bot and will have levels and some farm. At the same time Lycan is freefarming the jungle, and can easily go for Rosh. You lose 2 lanes, are up against freefarm Lycan and can't shut down their offlaner, they also get insane dps boosts come midgame, while all you have is your Bfury AM with ~1k hp and no amor, a Travels Tinker if he didn't get fucked over too hard by Venge, and 3 underleveled heroes with low farm who all need levels. I don't see how you're supposed to win this. Hah you're right, I just saw 4 carries on Dire and never really thought through how they would lane.
Yeah radiant's fucked.
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Its OK drow nerf incoming.
PS where is today's patch?
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this is the worst performance day i had in dota for quite a while @_@ 2-8 total. I could pretty much recognize 80% of the people i got matched against now. Try hard central :D Smoke gank, lane ward, sentry spam, u name it. Half happy but it will take me a bit of time to adjust, especially i have been in the Random Hero mood for the past 2 weeks . Gona start try hard again tmr.... Kinda wana do a lot of rubick jungle though.
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QQ for the day:
Joined a game of dota to relax before writing an essay... worst idea....
I play on Mid/High MM and I solo que up a game of AR and get magnus, I didnt notice at first but somehow ended up with 3 Russians who flamed me and fed. Calling me "your fucking shit and noob with ulti" and other comments that made no sense. Valve basically just told me fuck you. Bottom lane of them fed a pl 7 kills w first blood in 7 mins.... It happened so fast I was like wtf. Anyway after they finally spoke they spoke in Russian and flamed me rest of the game. My search is set on NA and english so playing with people who speak the same language is important especially in dota.
By the end of it we were losing all racks and i ultied in fountain for the fuck off it and they flaming "Noob learn to ulti" "Uninstall dota mangus"... The worst thing is that I know when I fuck up but the entire game I did my best and playing well and having kids 0-9 LS, 1-10 AM, 3-8 Punga telling me I was shit at dota..I was 2-2-2 and did everything in my power to turn game around.
This is why I stopped searching in Euro west, this is why.
Sigh....... why valve whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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On March 21 2013 06:05 IcED Bk wrote: QQ for the day:
Joined a game of dota to relax before writing an essay... worst idea....
I play on Mid/High MM and I solo que up a game of AR and get magnus, I didnt notice at first but somehow ended up with 3 Russians who flamed me and fed. Calling me "your fucking shit and noob with ulti" and other comments that made no sense. Valve basically just told me fuck you. Bottom lane of them fed a pl 7 kills w first blood in 7 mins.... It happened so fast I was like wtf. Anyway after they finally spoke they spoke in Russian and flamed me rest of the game. My search is set on NA and english so playing with people who speak the same language is important especially in dota.
By the end of it we were losing all racks and i ultied in fountain for the fuck off it and they flaming "Noob learn to ulti" "Uninstall dota mangus"... The worst thing is that I know when I fuck up but the entire game I did my best and playing well and having kids 0-9 LS, 1-10 AM, 3-8 Punga telling me I was shit at dota..I was 2-2-2 and did everything in my power to turn game around.
This is why I stopped searching in Euro west, this is why.
Sigh....... why valve whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
just realize it's a lost cause, mute them and try to make the most out of a bad game. No need to take it so hard.
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On March 21 2013 06:05 IcED Bk wrote: QQ for the day:
Joined a game of dota to relax before writing an essay... worst idea....
I play on Mid/High MM and I solo que up a game of AR and get magnus, I didnt notice at first but somehow ended up with 3 Russians who flamed me and fed. Calling me "your fucking shit and noob with ulti" and other comments that made no sense. Valve basically just told me fuck you. Bottom lane of them fed a pl 7 kills w first blood in 7 mins.... It happened so fast I was like wtf. Anyway after they finally spoke they spoke in Russian and flamed me rest of the game. My search is set on NA and english so playing with people who speak the same language is important especially in dota.
By the end of it we were losing all racks and i ultied in fountain for the fuck off it and they flaming "Noob learn to ulti" "Uninstall dota mangus"... The worst thing is that I know when I fuck up but the entire game I did my best and playing well and having kids 0-9 LS, 1-10 AM, 3-8 Punga telling me I was shit at dota..I was 2-2-2 and did everything in my power to turn game around.
This is why I stopped searching in Euro west, this is why.
Sigh....... why valve whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Russians... Russians everywhere.
It's always a treat though when you do get the mannered and decent ones. I at least seem to be beyond the "uninstall dota noob" ones. Mute button works wonders for the ones that are bad, and honestly they have like a 70% chance of abandoning anyway. Just report them, mute, and play out the game as you can.
Still I don't think I will ever have any Russian story better than the CM draft where our captain decided AM and Wisp was the way to go. Still hurts my brain to this day.
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How do you know what rating is your mm?
Also, MM loves one sided stomps, i mean, almost every game is a stomp
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