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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
On January 25 2013 09:20 Lightspeaker wrote: Sadly it really is the same for everyone. Some games you wreck. Others you just can't do anything no matter how well you do. And despite the insistence that there's "nothing wrong with matchmaking" you get matched with people who can't last hit, don't buy courier or wards ever and insist on 5-man carry lineup (or 4-man if you hold off on picking). It goes both ways. I've played games where no matter how much farm I've got I can't outcarry the fed opposing carry. I've played games where I'm helplessly watching as a support as our carry tower dives to death again and again. At the other end of the spectrum the game I just played I was fed four kills in 10 minutes as Drow (single draft, meh) and ended up with a 13 minute Lothars plus two bands, boots and wand. Then their Void ragequit. Game over in 20 minutes flat, finished with lothars, quarterstaff, manta, boots, wand, wraithband. Relieved it wasn't another loss, but horribly unsatisfying. But we all keep playing for those rare games, oh so rare, which are closely fought and back and forth with decent players on both sides. Proper supports warding and couriers, proper initiations, sensible item builds, people buying detection versus invis and helping to get rid of detection for your own invis, lane control and even in some cases...dare I say it...smoke ganks. They're like precious gems amid the piles of rubbish. And we have to go through so much rubbish to find them we question why we even bother trying. But we all keep scrabbling around regardless, because when you find one its amazing and you feel good about it win or lose. While I agree to some extend I just want to give you a tip: play cm! People who queue for cm are actually willing to play a role, and those rare gems are much more frequent. Sure sometimes the captain totally gets outpicked and you lose horribly, but as you said, there are plenty of those games in normal matchmaking as well ^^ | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
it's soo lame to play random with mates for having fun, and the opposite team pick counter-heros and not a single fuck/fun will be given this day | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/v6SASXY.jpg) Are you for fucking real | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
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FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
Enemies: TA, Brood, Lich, Rubick. Yep, one player didnt even choose a hero and left, so we start 4v5. I know we do not have the best setup, but come on, 4v5 we will rip them apart. Get TA down to 50%, back off and heal, hook him into tower --> first blood. Nope, not for me. Kunkka decided it was smart to engage Lich and Rubick on the bottom lane, while VS did not want to, and ends up dieing. 1-1. Doesnt matter. I kill TA for a second time. Brood pushes top lane hard, 0 wards by BM and BH, tracking didnt seem to interest BH aswell. Meanwhile, the bot lane thinks it is not sufficient to stay back, 2 int heroes should be pushed around easily, right? Nope. Kunkka shines with glorious 0-3, VS with 0-2. I ask VS for some wards (VENGE IS NO SUPPORT OMG) and gank bot with a haste rune. I kill Rubick and Lich, but die because i dived the tower too ambitiously with my haste rune. Back at mid, to supress TA farm, i almost kill her a third time. But then, Rubick stands next to her, steals my hook and walks away to bot. I go top, because Brood is about to push down the T2 tower. BH and BM leave the lane because hey, mid is here. ^.^ Luckily, i wait with dismember until Brood kicks her Ult in, and proceed to kill her. Rubick and Lich farm gloriously on bot, Kunkka went 0-6 and VS went 0-6 aswell. VS seems mad at me, because i dont even know how to gank the damn bottom line. Buying a gem, killing off Brood again, going bot. Rubick steals my hook, hooks me out. No problem i guess, now Kunkka and VS can engage safely while i tank the damage! Nope - nope. The decide its smarter to walk in after our creeps have died, so Lich can at least use his ult to the fullest potential. All 3 of us die, i lose the gem. TA is farming and gets some kills against the BM and BH, we push with 4 people top. Kunkka decides it might be wise to farm woods now, for he is on a gold disadvantage. We have to reatreat and cannot even kill the tier 1 tower, denied. Next highlight: We kill the Rubick who (for unknown reasons) still had my gem. I died in the fight, and ask Kunkka to bring the gem to me. NOPE. I want to build shadow blade, you will only lose the gem. Said and destroyed. The game drags on, without our "carries" VS and Kunkka farming, BH and BM somehow manage to die in 1v1 situations. Rubick runs around with a Bloodstone with 24 charges, Brood has her Staff and a BKB, Lich has his Agha and TA completes dagger and Deso. We get rofelstomped in out own base so hard by 4 people i want to scratch my eyes out. TA´s final comment: Pudge shouldnt have let me farm, trololol. ... facepalm ... | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
Who always saying nicely at the start of every game: "I go (fill lane) ty" and picked carry and ended up being whined and whined until the game ended because your allies who were supposed to support you didn't do their job? It's like everytime I pick the following heroes: Anti-Mage, Phantom Lancer, Faceless Void, Juggernaut, Morphling all those players who were supposed to be "allies" instantly killed your pick with their picks and then, boom. Free lose for you. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On January 26 2013 00:32 Eriksen wrote: Am I the only one here? Who always saying nicely at the start of every game: "I go (fill lane) ty" and picked carry and ended up being whined and whined until the game ended because your allies who were supposed to support you didn't do their job? It's like everytime I pick the following heroes: Anti-Mage, Phantom Lancer, Faceless Void, Juggernaut, Morphling all those players who were supposed to be "allies" instantly killed your pick with their picks and then, boom. Free lose for you. Depends. Some games (quite frequently unfortunately) I've had supports who fed like crazy, competed with me for farm and refused to buy wards/courier/teamfight items. Or who just leave me to get my head repeatedly kicked in by the opponent. I had a KotL recently who literally left me as CK up against Weaver/SandKing (they were part of a 3-stack) whilst he repeatedly failed at trying to pull a neut camp and every so often would just randomly Illuminate a wave down to take the farm. Never harrassing. Other games...well I once picked Juggernaut and had godly good support from a Windrunner. I finished the game seven levels above anyone else on my own team, ten levels above anyone on the opposition and 26/1/8. 800XPM and 700GPM. In short its a total roll of the dice in my experience. In general it tends to be somewhere in the middle with allies failing to do some things but doing well with others. Maybe they'll not bother to ward but they'll harrass your opponent well. Maybe they'll get wards and courier but compete with you for last hits. Its just frustrating honestly. | ||
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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
On January 26 2013 00:55 Lightspeaker wrote: Depends. Some games (quite frequently unfortunately) I've had supports who fed like crazy, competed with me for farm and refused to buy wards/courier/teamfight items. Or who just leave me to get my head repeatedly kicked in by the opponent. I had a KotL recently who literally left me as CK up against Weaver/SandKing (they were part of a 3-stack) whilst he repeatedly failed at trying to pull a neut camp and every so often would just randomly Illuminate a wave down to take the farm. Never harrassing. Other games...well I once picked Juggernaut and had godly good support from a Windrunner. I finished the game seven levels above anyone else on my own team, ten levels above anyone on the opposition and 26/1/8. 800XPM and 700GPM. In short its a total roll of the dice in my experience. In general it tends to be somewhere in the middle with allies failing to do some things but doing well with others. Maybe they'll not bother to ward but they'll harrass your opponent well. Maybe they'll get wards and courier but compete with you for last hits. Its just frustrating honestly. True, freaking, story. It's just sometimes when I make up my mind to press the "find match" button, solo mode, it feels insane. Truly insane. Sometimes you got a pair of stacks (2 or 3) who really possess those incredible communication and coordination throughout the game and you feel like: "I would love to play with these kind of guys every game". And then there we go again. Stacked with a bunch of I-will-instantly-press-all-4-boxes-of-report-button and kills your motivation to play the game. Damn. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
MMR put me with a fuckign spanish four man again, and I doubt they even understood what I was saying, despite even drawing obvious pushing arrows on map. HOLY FUCK SOME GAMES. | ||
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Serpest
United States603 Posts
On January 26 2013 03:27 BallinWitStalin wrote: So, we have a fucking 15-4 lead by 15 minutes, or something retarded like that. Then, my fucking team decides to afk farm for 40 minutes. And the other team has a fucking PL. Since minute 15, I genuinely was like "okay guys, we gotta push". "Let's push guys, before pl can farm". "Guys, pl is getting big, let's push". "Guys, pl almost has heart". This proceeds until a full fucking inventory pl rams his way up mid, raxes us, and then over the next ten minutes rapes our pitiful last minute push attempts. MMR put me with a fuckign spanish four man again, and I doubt they even understood what I was saying, despite even drawing obvious pushing arrows on map. HOLY FUCK SOME GAMES. This was me last game. Except instead of pl, they had void. I was sad face. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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10734
340 Posts
So after we lose I queue up for another game, this time it's single draft. Guess what: instalock drow, riki and bloodseeker. ffs. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 26 2013 07:56 10734 wrote: Ok, so I play some AR and get omniknight, I enjoy playing a support from time to time so I don't mind. After the game is pretty much over (we were losing hard, like 25 kills behind) this guy in our team starts raging, blaming the loss mostly on the fact that doom didn't get a scepter to counter lifestealer. I report him, and after he starts blaming the rest of our team in all chat I ask the others to report him aswell. (yes it's low, but fuck these guys). He was the only one who got a decent amount of kills, and he and lifestealer start jerking off to eachother's compliments. Holy shit that shit gets me raging, it's a fucking team game, why do they take all the fucking credit. I know I'm being childish but man this is so frustrating. So after we lose I queue up for another game, this time it's single draft. Guess what: instalock drow, riki and bloodseeker. ffs. Most carries / mid players never make any mistakes and the only reason they lose are due to bronze scum on their team. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 26 2013 00:32 Eriksen wrote: Am I the only one here? Who always saying nicely at the start of every game: "I go (fill lane) ty" and picked carry and ended up being whined and whined until the game ended because your allies who were supposed to support you didn't do their job? It's like everytime I pick the following heroes: Anti-Mage, Phantom Lancer, Faceless Void, Juggernaut, Morphling all those players who were supposed to be "allies" instantly killed your pick with their picks and then, boom. Free lose for you. rull of thumb, don't first pick hardcarries, you rely too much on your teammate and if they don't want to support, you're screwed most of the time. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
On January 26 2013 00:32 Eriksen wrote: Am I the only one here? Who always saying nicely at the start of every game: "I go (fill lane) ty" and picked carry and ended up being whined and whined until the game ended because your allies who were supposed to support you didn't do their job? It's like everytime I pick the following heroes: Anti-Mage, Phantom Lancer, Faceless Void, Juggernaut, Morphling all those players who were supposed to be "allies" instantly killed your pick with their picks and then, boom. Free lose for you. You have to realize that there are a lot of people that don't go into the picking phase with a productive "What does our team composition need right now to be balanced and give us the best chance to win?" type of mentality.. Instead, they go into picks with a "What do I feel like playing right now?" mentality.. And will typically not give a fuck if someones picked a hard carry on your team already.. They'll still pick Spectre anyways. Its especially irritating when they don't say anything in chat whatsoever, and just randomly pick a hard-carry after you have one (without saying a word in chat). I randomed drow the other day and was going to go safe-lane to farm (right at the start of picks, I always random instantly ASAP)... And then I say in team chat "I'm going top. Need 2 support, a mid, and sand king or something gank'ish for bot". A few of my teammates listened no problem.. But then this moron decides to pick AM right towards the end of the picking phase. I then take a second to ask him why he would pick AM when we have a drow.. He to which he replies "I wanna carry". So I ended up going mid as drow, crushing, while AM fed. Didn't matter, I still crushed. We win. #drowranger Moral of the story... There are a lot of idiots out there that don't give two shits about your teams composition.. They'll pick a hard-carry when your team already has 1 or 2 just because they feel like it (even if it means losing the game) they don't give a damn. Honestly though, thats not even that bad.. The worst is when people wait until the last second of picks when the creeps are spawning and then go "You know, I don't really know what to pick.. I think I'll just random then!".. That is fucking retarded in itself. Theres nothing that makes me rage more than when teammates do that.. Because 99% of the time, it turns out to be a random that completely fucks the lanes and your team. | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On January 26 2013 08:36 Enzymatic wrote: You have to realize that there are a lot of people that don't go into the picking phase with a productive "What does our team composition need right now to be balanced and give us the best chance to win?" type of mentality.. Instead, they go into picks with a "What do I feel like playing right now?" mentality.. And will typically not give a fuck if someones picked a hard carry on your team already.. They'll still pick Spectre anyways. Its especially irritating when they don't say anything in chat whatsoever, and just randomly pick a hard-carry after you have one (without saying a word in chat). I randomed drow the other day and was going to go safe-lane to farm (right at the start of picks, I always random instantly ASAP)... And then I say in team chat "I'm going top. Need 2 support, a mid, and sand king or something gank'ish for bot". A few of my teammates listened no problem.. But then this moron decides to pick AM right towards the end of the picking phase. I then take a second to ask him why he would pick AM when we have a drow.. He to which he replies "I wanna carry". So I ended up going mid as drow, crushing, while AM fed. Didn't matter, I still crushed. We win. #drowranger Moral of the story... There are a lot of idiots out there that don't give two shits about your teams composition.. They'll pick a hard-carry when your team already has 1 or 2 just because they feel like it (even if it means losing the game) they don't give a damn. Honestly though, thats not even that bad.. The worst is when people wait until the last second of picks when the creeps are spawning and then go "You know, I don't really know what to pick.. I think I'll just random then!".. That is fucking retarded in itself. Theres nothing that makes me rage more than when teammates do that.. Because 99% of the time, it turns out to be a random that completely fucks the lanes and your team. Sometimes people just want to play a hero for that particular game. Yeah it's a bit selfish, but so is random-ing instantly and expecting the whole team to pick based on your random I think. | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
And oh boy, he is so absolutly hillarious to deal with without counter picking. I randomed drow the other day and was going to go safe-lane to farm (right at the start of picks, I always random instantly ASAP)... And then I say in team chat "I'm going top. Need 2 support, a mid, and sand king or something gank'ish for bot". A few of my teammates listened no problem.. But then this moron decides to pick AM right towards the end of the picking phase. I then take a second to ask him why he would pick AM when we have a drow.. He to which he replies "I wanna carry". DC during picking phase. You won't get abondment and game won't count. Yes it's shit solution, yes i do it when im not in mood for 4+ carry Dota. | ||
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