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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 24 2013 23:22 GMT
#6341
On January 25 2013 08:18 Avs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:23 Mandini wrote:
I was in a game where one of the enemy heroes got mad enough to look me up in dotabuff, and then spent the rest of the game flaming me for only having a 51-52% win rate. Apparently im a scrub for not being 60%+.


And this is why Dotabuff is getting all its flak from. Don't forget that you're dragging his win rate down from 52% to 51%.

He did it after he was "mad enough", i.e. it didn't initiate the flaming as so many people think it will.

So really not relevant to the discussion - people will find things to bitch about whatever.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:06:37
January 24 2013 23:29 GMT
#6342
This evening is just getting better and better. No courier. No wards. "OMG WHY ARE YOU LOSING MID?"

The feeling to then face that previous team in the next game, and then proceed to absolutely fucking curbstomp them however, going 10/0/12 and ending the game in under 20 minutes, makes it all worth it.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 25 2013 00:03 GMT
#6343
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
January 25 2013 00:14 GMT
#6344
On January 24 2013 23:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Some players man...

Game last night. SS, Rubick, Nyx, Lifestealer and me on BH. I go offlane. Nyx claims top solo safe and Lifestealer goes jungle (surely better getting LS some farm in lane considering he's main carry? But ok, whatever, I'm not going to argue it; haven't got the patience). Rubick ends up mid and SS comes bottom with me.

We're up against Tide/WD. A little messy there but ok. SS doesn't do any harrassment or counter harrassment, just attacking creeps all the time. And later hanging around the tower to be safe (more XP for me, no problem). Going to be one of those games eh? Ok, never mind. I keep at it.

All this time Nyx is busily losing top hard to Gyro/Silencer. He eventually throws a tantrum and demands someone swap with him. So I go top instead and carry on quietly getting on with gaining levels. Silencer is a bit of a nuisance and they instantly buy wards when they see theres a BH in their lane but I do ok. Though the top tower goes down soon after (couldn't do anything, it was at about a third health when I arrived in lane).

Whilst I'm competing in the "OMG IMPOSSIBLE" lane that Nyx abandons he ends up spending the next ten minutes or so just constantly yelling abuse at SS. Ok, SS wasn't playing well and he'd annoyed me a bit to. But it was unbelievable how horrible Nyx was being. To the point where when SS died he was screaming about feeding, despite having fed top about four kills at the very start.

Whole game went on like that. Just Nyx yelling abuse at SS no matter what we said to calm him down and demanding that SS leave. Ok, SS was playing badly but man at least he wasn't being a dick about it. In the end SS literally said "you know what? I've got work in a few minutes, I've not got time for this" and just quit. We still won though because we were so farmed up. Honestly just some people...I don't even...


Just mute him. Nothing ruins my dota experience as much as a player constantly whining and bitching, and the gag button is a godsend in that regard.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 25 2013 00:20 GMT
#6345
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.


Sadly it really is the same for everyone. Some games you wreck. Others you just can't do anything no matter how well you do. And despite the insistence that there's "nothing wrong with matchmaking" you get matched with people who can't last hit, don't buy courier or wards ever and insist on 5-man carry lineup (or 4-man if you hold off on picking).

It goes both ways. I've played games where no matter how much farm I've got I can't outcarry the fed opposing carry. I've played games where I'm helplessly watching as a support as our carry tower dives to death again and again. At the other end of the spectrum the game I just played I was fed four kills in 10 minutes as Drow (single draft, meh) and ended up with a 13 minute Lothars plus two bands, boots and wand. Then their Void ragequit. Game over in 20 minutes flat, finished with lothars, quarterstaff, manta, boots, wand, wraithband. Relieved it wasn't another loss, but horribly unsatisfying.

But we all keep playing for those rare games, oh so rare, which are closely fought and back and forth with decent players on both sides. Proper supports warding and couriers, proper initiations, sensible item builds, people buying detection versus invis and helping to get rid of detection for your own invis, lane control and even in some cases...dare I say it...smoke ganks.

They're like precious gems amid the piles of rubbish. And we have to go through so much rubbish to find them we question why we even bother trying. But we all keep scrabbling around regardless, because when you find one its amazing and you feel good about it win or lose.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
January 25 2013 00:30 GMT
#6346
On January 25 2013 09:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.


Sadly it really is the same for everyone. Some games you wreck. Others you just can't do anything no matter how well you do. And despite the insistence that there's "nothing wrong with matchmaking" you get matched with people who can't last hit, don't buy courier or wards ever and insist on 5-man carry lineup (or 4-man if you hold off on picking).

It goes both ways. I've played games where no matter how much farm I've got I can't outcarry the fed opposing carry. I've played games where I'm helplessly watching as a support as our carry tower dives to death again and again. At the other end of the spectrum the game I just played I was fed four kills in 10 minutes as Drow (single draft, meh) and ended up with a 13 minute Lothars plus two bands, boots and wand. Then their Void ragequit. Game over in 20 minutes flat, finished with lothars, quarterstaff, manta, boots, wand, wraithband. Relieved it wasn't another loss, but horribly unsatisfying.

But we all keep playing for those rare games, oh so rare, which are closely fought and back and forth with decent players on both sides. Proper supports warding and couriers, proper initiations, sensible item builds, people buying detection versus invis and helping to get rid of detection for your own invis, lane control and even in some cases...dare I say it...smoke ganks.

They're like precious gems amid the piles of rubbish. And we have to go through so much rubbish to find them we question why we even bother trying. But we all keep scrabbling around regardless, because when you find one its amazing and you feel good about it win or lose.


Totally know that feel bro...Just had a game as Viper, I had 17 kills and like 3 deaths, but our main carry, anti-mage, had no idea what to do and just kept feeding and feeding...when I was lvl 18 he's still lvl 9 lol...our supports weren't that good either except for a witch doctor, but eventually their team with carry Luna (who farmed a satanic, bfly, manta at this point) and Spiritbreaker just owned us.
Solarn
Profile Joined January 2013
Hungary12 Posts
January 25 2013 00:45 GMT
#6347
That feeling when I'm a support Rubick and the only one who bothers to defend our towers from the freefarming enemy Spectre up until about minute 25 (after that I just couldn't). And my clutch TKs didn't even earn me any assists because TK doesn't count apparently.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
January 25 2013 01:10 GMT
#6348
Just went 23/6/9 as viper, and somehow, lost the game ><
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
January 25 2013 01:23 GMT
#6349
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.


Smurfing is currently really popular, and also how you perform in losses during your first bunch of games will affect your mmr. Playing in a group will drag you away from the majority of smurfers though. 3-5 people is optimal for avoiding full solo queue.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
January 25 2013 01:25 GMT
#6350
When undying and kotl lose a lane to warlock + am and lose it hard, i just don´t know what to say.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
January 25 2013 01:29 GMT
#6351
On January 25 2013 10:25 unkkz wrote:
When undying and kotl lose a lane to warlock + am and lose it hard, i just don´t know what to say.


I had a game today where our kotl/PL lane lost vs solo dark seer

Was great
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
January 25 2013 01:30 GMT
#6352
I feel like charlie brown right now. Everyone else is getting candy... I'm getting rocks. Seriously where have all the awesome people I was queuing with a few days ago gone?
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
January 25 2013 01:35 GMT
#6353
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.

If you're brand new you should find a few friends to play with. If your account is young you may also be plagued by smurfs, they're everywhere right now and it's actually a really bad environment for newbies :<
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yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
January 25 2013 03:40 GMT
#6354
On January 25 2013 10:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.

If you're brand new you should find a few friends to play with. If your account is young you may also be plagued by smurfs, they're everywhere right now and it's actually a really bad environment for newbies :<


Yea. I actually seem to get harder games on my smurf quite often..
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
January 25 2013 05:19 GMT
#6355
On January 23 2013 13:15 RuskiPanda wrote:
Napalm needs to be fucking removed from the game. Stupidest skill ever thought of.


I guess that's what the last Batrider I played with thought. Skilled Napalm last, never used it. Funny as hell watching him use Flamebreak every fight. Magnus would Skewer, RP, then ... Flamebreak comes in and scatters the enemy. (I would have said something, but I didn't notice until watching the replay.)
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 25 2013 09:45 GMT
#6356
Playing some hard carry against 2 ranged heroes in the safe lane and you get some shitty support (hero or player or both) who doesn't know how to set up kills... what can you do? so annoying
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
January 25 2013 10:05 GMT
#6357
I call miss, nobody cares. QoP ganks and kills them.
"CALL MISS"
"BITCHES"
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
January 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#6358
On January 25 2013 09:03 PoP wrote:
So I'm pretty bad at this game but the matchmaking seems absolutely horrendous to me.

4 times out of 5 one team is about 3 times more skilled than the other and the game ends up with something like 50-12. My performance doesn't even seem to matter much at all in these games as even if I completely own my lane the rest of the team will mass feed and vice versa.

I keep trying to have fun and improve anyway, but this is really really frustrating.


That doesn't really have to do with skill. Anyone can go 20-0 in one game, then feed hard in the next. That's usually the way it goes. If you want to win more games, pick Drow.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
January 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#6359
Why does everyone who plays this game fucking suck
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#6360
On January 25 2013 19:13 Canas wrote:
Why does everyone who plays this game fucking suck

hard game.
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