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mjae
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden79 Posts
January 17 2013 12:53 GMT
#6061
why is this game so hard?

User was warned for this post
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 17 2013 12:56 GMT
#6062
On January 17 2013 21:40 SKC wrote:
The thing is, if you use dotabuff stats as an argument, Morphling, AM, Clinkz, etc. are all more "unbalanced" than Drow. Yet you never see someone QQing about losing a game because a teammate picked Morphling, while you always see the opposite regarding Drow and you feel like she has at least a 75% winrate by the way people talk about her.

Morphling, Clinkz and AM are barely played. The stats don't really say much. Drow's stats show that she's really common and has a huge impact on the game (i.e. Dota as a whole), whereas Morphling, Clinkz, etc. do not.



You pick Drow to show off you sick right click skillz, don't you?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 17 2013 13:07 GMT
#6063
On January 17 2013 21:50 mjae wrote:
i hate the facts


On January 17 2013 21:50 mjae wrote:
that drow is often picked


On January 17 2013 21:51 mjae wrote:
meepo is to hard


On January 17 2013 21:51 mjae wrote:
and jakiro is cute


On January 17 2013 21:53 mjae wrote:
why is this game so hard?



Was it really necessary to make five separate posts? Quite poetic though.


As for the Drow discussion...

I played a game last night where we were convinced from the start the game was a loss. Three-stack on the opposing team and our pick was a little imbalanced. We were certain we'd just get shut down early on, ganked and towers pushed down.

Surprisingly the other team turned out to be truly terrible. We focussed on getting two of our carries farmed up whilst the rest of the team played in support and ganked. Then one of the other team started raging about how it had been gg for them from the draft and how they were bound to lose due to an OP hero.

Lets play a game! Out of the following draft which would you pick to bitch about being too strong:
Slark, Drow, Kunkka, Undying and Ursa.


Got it yet? Yup...this guy decided that Kunkka was OP as hell and that he had no chance from the very beginning with a Kunkka on our team (ironic considering Kunkka was playing a semi-support role).
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 17 2013 13:28 GMT
#6064
Don't think i'm supposed to be the highest leveled hero on team as offlane WR.... whose been buying wards all game and went mek/sheepstick. But for some reason I am.
Me = Lv24, 1/1/16.
Chen on my team who told our juggernaut he'd "obviously never played chen before because he (the jugg) had no idea what he was talking about" = Lv16, 4/5/5. How do you get 5 assists as CHEN.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 13:58:54
January 17 2013 13:47 GMT
#6065
https://dotabuff.com/matches/101557334

Just lost a game to a meepo.. But not because he was good, but because my team was fucking retarded.

2 good relatively good lane setups (Slark + Silencer) and Bane + SB, and they somehow manage to feed. (I was on TA). Our SB goes midas ffs.. Into Vlads (yes, vlads).... and slark was just awful. I roam bot twice to gank the lane and manage to kill meepo twice in a row, and they still feed. I call out "Invoker top rune, care top, b" right as he leaves mid to the rune.. Said it on mic and typed in team chat.. They ignore it and stand there in-lane.. Proceed to get double killed as it was a haste rune, and then whine to me for not saying anything or not being there to help..

In 600+ games I don't think I've ever been teamed with players that bad. So frustrating.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 17 2013 13:52 GMT
#6066
On January 17 2013 21:56 FuzzyJAM wrote:
You pick Drow to show off you sick right click skillz, don't you?

To be honest, there are loads of ways to be more efficient while playing Drow. Manually casting Frost Arrows every second or third hit (depending on attack speed), orbwalking constantly, keeping 2 people slowed at the same time. I used to feel helpless when playing her, simply turning auto cast FA, picking a target and poping my Manta/BKB/whatever (in a teamfight), but the truth is even a hero as simple as her has quite a lot of tricks to master.

Granted, it is no rocket science, not by a long shot. But once you learn to do these things automatically you can work on your mid fight decision making. Drow is a really good hero to learn to avoid tunnel vision.
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 15:32:51
January 17 2013 14:50 GMT
#6067
Just played a game where our solo mid drow picker was up against a bounty hunter, a fed first three kills of the game withing 5 minutes.

Nice start I think, but it's drow, we can come back, and our bot lane must be owning as we have Lion and Ogre Magi versus Beastmaster and Phantom Assassin.

After 10 minutes, the score was 0-11 with our bot lane giving up EIGHT FUCKING KILLS to two melee heros with no stuns against a double stun lineup.

How are either of those losses even vaguely possible? There were not new players, all had 500+ wins.

Next game, our solo mid Pudge lets their solo mid pl free farm to the point he had Radiance and Treads and 16 minutes flat.

Tough game some times.
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
January 17 2013 16:07 GMT
#6068
i hate people...

0/12 darkseer 1/14 earthshaker

next game

feeding medusa...

next game

dragon knight 0/7 with a bounty 0/5 vs a undying nyx

arrrghhhhhh want to poke my eyes out
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
January 17 2013 16:49 GMT
#6069
I give up, the game is too hard.

Third game in a row when our solo mid gets destroyed so hard that the game is lost by 8 minutes. I'm Sven top lane, get three kills, farming well. All looks good, but our solo mid TA had died to pudge 5 times. By the time I have the farm I need, BKB, Crystalis, Drums, Treads, our solo mid TA has Boots of Speed, Bottle, Wand and a Mithril Hammer. Their solo mid pudge has 5000 hp because of his heart and 40 Flesh heap.

I watch the replay, and all game our solo mid and our lion just walk out solo into their whole team and die and die and die. I just want a team of people who are not completely incompetent, is that too much to ask?

It's a hard game when their support Veno has a Desolator before our solo mid TA.

Solo mid comparisons last three games (Top one was a 26 minute game).

[image loading]
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
January 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#6070
my only qq is when supports farm with spells when the carry is RIGHT in front of them. Seriously? I've asked nicely for farm, and they say "this wasn't a farming lane"...

What does that mean? Is that like a LoL or HoN thing? I really don't know--I mean, any lane is a farming lane unless you aren't pushing. By the way, this was at the long lane T2 tower... how is that not a "farming lane?"
Galatians 2:20
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 17 2013 18:50 GMT
#6071
On January 17 2013 22:07 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 21:50 mjae wrote:
i hate the facts


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 21:50 mjae wrote:
that drow is often picked


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 21:51 mjae wrote:
meepo is to hard


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 21:51 mjae wrote:
and jakiro is cute


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 21:53 mjae wrote:
why is this game so hard?



Was it really necessary to make five separate posts? Quite poetic though.


As for the Drow discussion...

I played a game last night where we were convinced from the start the game was a loss. Three-stack on the opposing team and our pick was a little imbalanced. We were certain we'd just get shut down early on, ganked and towers pushed down.

Surprisingly the other team turned out to be truly terrible. We focussed on getting two of our carries farmed up whilst the rest of the team played in support and ganked. Then one of the other team started raging about how it had been gg for them from the draft and how they were bound to lose due to an OP hero.

Lets play a game! Out of the following draft which would you pick to bitch about being too strong:
Slark, Drow, Kunkka, Undying and Ursa.


Got it yet? Yup...this guy decided that Kunkka was OP as hell and that he had no chance from the very beginning with a Kunkka on our team (ironic considering Kunkka was playing a semi-support role).


it did feel that way, he wanted to emphasize his pain through use of short sharp lines.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Corwin
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia36 Posts
January 17 2013 18:54 GMT
#6072
God.
1. Russians. Wherever i go, they are there.
2. Just had a game, and i know im a level 2 noob but the skelly king on our team started yelling at everyone for noobness, while he himself had a really bad score, then i looked @ his items. Am i the only one thinking that ...might not be the best items for him ? http://i.imgur.com/yljoj.jpg
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 17 2013 19:08 GMT
#6073
.... 3 games today, 3 DR players in enemy team, rushing 3 Wraith Bands into shadowblade and my team can't fucking deal with that shit. 3 games lost and I feel like insta leaving when I see someone picking DR in oposite team... MAN.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 19:33 GMT
#6074
On January 18 2013 01:49 DR.Ham wrote:
I give up, the game is too hard.

Third game in a row when our solo mid gets destroyed so hard that the game is lost by 8 minutes. I'm Sven top lane, get three kills, farming well. All looks good, but our solo mid TA had died to pudge 5 times. By the time I have the farm I need, BKB, Crystalis, Drums, Treads, our solo mid TA has Boots of Speed, Bottle, Wand and a Mithril Hammer. Their solo mid pudge has 5000 hp because of his heart and 40 Flesh heap.

I watch the replay, and all game our solo mid and our lion just walk out solo into their whole team and die and die and die. I just want a team of people who are not completely incompetent, is that too much to ask?

It's a hard game when their support Veno has a Desolator before our solo mid TA.

Solo mid comparisons last three games (Top one was a 26 minute game).

[image loading]

PL mid...
BH mid...
Drow mid (more understandable)...

-_____________-

And the PL won.

What.
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skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
January 17 2013 19:42 GMT
#6075
On January 18 2013 02:32 asaed wrote:
my only qq is when supports farm with spells when the carry is RIGHT in front of them. Seriously? I've asked nicely for farm, and they say "this wasn't a farming lane"...

What does that mean? Is that like a LoL or HoN thing? I really don't know--I mean, any lane is a farming lane unless you aren't pushing. By the way, this was at the long lane T2 tower... how is that not a "farming lane?"

Just fyi, HoN is almost the same game as DotA, they have added new heroes and stuff but it isn't at all like LoL. People farm with spells if they come from LoL or because they're bad, HoN is pretty much the same thing as Dota
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
January 17 2013 19:48 GMT
#6076
On January 18 2013 03:54 Corwin wrote:
God.
1. Russians. Wherever i go, they are there.
2. Just had a game, and i know im a level 2 noob but the skelly king on our team started yelling at everyone for noobness, while he himself had a really bad score, then i looked @ his items. Am i the only one thinking that ...might not be the best items for him ? http://i.imgur.com/yljoj.jpg


Anything is possible at level 2. I find it somewhat worse when obviously good players start to flame the level 2 noobs as myself, who either just need to farm up, or is smurfing. Yes if you suicide as a carrier into an impossible easy-to-spot situation when 3/5 the team is dead you ask to be flamed, but far from all situations are easily readable by a new player.

I usually queue at US east only. Russians usually dont know how to speak english, unless of course its the well known words such as "noob", "retard" and "moron". Some Russians however, dont need to speak, they are quite good and have gamesense enough to jump on oppurtunity. I find those one of the best and enjoyable players. Start killing, stop talking kind of guys. Hope to see more of those
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#6077
On January 18 2013 03:54 Corwin wrote:
God.
1. Russians. Wherever i go, they are there.
2. Just had a game, and i know im a level 2 noob but the skelly king on our team started yelling at everyone for noobness, while he himself had a really bad score, then i looked @ his items. Am i the only one thinking that ...might not be the best items for him ? http://i.imgur.com/yljoj.jpg

44:33 and no Courier.

Nobody on your team has the right to complain about anyone else.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 17 2013 19:57 GMT
#6078
On January 18 2013 04:33 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 01:49 DR.Ham wrote:
I give up, the game is too hard.

Third game in a row when our solo mid gets destroyed so hard that the game is lost by 8 minutes. I'm Sven top lane, get three kills, farming well. All looks good, but our solo mid TA had died to pudge 5 times. By the time I have the farm I need, BKB, Crystalis, Drums, Treads, our solo mid TA has Boots of Speed, Bottle, Wand and a Mithril Hammer. Their solo mid pudge has 5000 hp because of his heart and 40 Flesh heap.

I watch the replay, and all game our solo mid and our lion just walk out solo into their whole team and die and die and die. I just want a team of people who are not completely incompetent, is that too much to ask?

It's a hard game when their support Veno has a Desolator before our solo mid TA.

Solo mid comparisons last three games (Top one was a 26 minute game).

[image loading]

PL mid...
BH mid...
Drow mid (more understandable)...

-_____________-

And the PL won.

What.


Hey BH mid is legit. I went 12-0 on a BH mid before today. >_>

Although PL mid blows my mind.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 17 2013 21:00 GMT
#6079
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Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 21:19:34
January 17 2013 21:18 GMT
#6080
Had a 70 minute game last night because one of our players bought the rapier.. died and gifted it to their sniper, who sat behind their ancient with it blasting away at anyone who got close..
Which would have been fine, had the same player not then bought another rapier and got himself ganked again gifting them another >_<
No idea how we won that game, mainly because of them having 2 rapiers, that and me and my 2 friends are god awful at this game, I feel bad for anyone who gets matched up with us, I really do.
Also I had my game close down in the middle because of a stupid windows update. Wasn't impressed.
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