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On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote: What is the point of randoming a hero?
The point is to get a random hero. Some people random in the hope of getting a hero they feel like playing and will repick if they don't get that.
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On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote: What is the point of randoming a hero?
first game today enemy randoms necrolyte - repick drow ranger
second game enemy randoms broodmother - repick drow ranger
third game enemy randoms juggernaut - repick drow ranger
are people that desperate for the 200 extra gold on drow? we won all three games btw, but it still irks me.
The only time I repick is when I get a hero I REALLY do not want to play as. But I'll never repick to Drow, she is the least fun to play.
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You don't get 200 extra gold if you repick. That would be silly.
You should end up with 100 less gold by repicking, so yeah, you shouldn't random if there is a big chance you will end up repicking. You might as well just use the "random wheel" untill it falls on a hero you like.
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On January 11 2013 00:57 SKC wrote: You don't get 200 extra gold if you repick. That would be silly Diretide.

But on the question of randoming, I do it pretty much every AP game. There is too much pressure to pick what hero I want to play otherwise. I only repick meepo and if I'm feeling lazy chen/ench as well.
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On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote: What is the point of randoming a hero?
first game today enemy randoms necrolyte - repick drow ranger
second game enemy randoms broodmother - repick drow ranger
third game enemy randoms juggernaut - repick drow ranger
are people that desperate for the 200 extra gold on drow? we won all three games btw, but it still irks me.
The point of randoming a hero is to get a random hero. Would think that would be self-evident.
And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place.
So really you just went up against three people who decided they would rather play a handicapped Drow than the heroes they actually randomed. Or they were retarded...both are equally likely.
Edit: I also Random pretty much every single AP game, and almost never repick unless my teammates go full-retard with the other 4 picks.
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On January 10 2013 20:45 hooahah wrote:https://dotabuff.com/players/112960879this this fucking player right here I hope I never team up with him again jesus christ how can you even play the same hero over and over again so many times? I understand sticking to some heroes more often than not, but nearly all his games are Drow/Viper/Huskar, which he takes if Drow has been taken by someone else. Especially when it's such a braindead hero.
lmao
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They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid.
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On January 11 2013 01:48 BlitzerSC wrote: They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid.
Nooooooooooooooooo. That is probably the single worst change they made to HoN for me (apart from all the awful heroes and early access). Random gold is awesome. It isn't like 853 gold is that crazy OP mid. What are they gonna do, go boots or bottle first? .
I mean, if they take away the random gold then I can't justify randoming anymore. And I really do hate picking because I always end up support (I'm better at support than carry anyways, and that is generally what is needed). Randoming is my justification to play carries etc XD.
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And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place.
you clearly dont understand the mechanics behind my post, i was implying that people are desperate for a 1 in 84 chance to get the 200 extra gold on drow.
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On January 11 2013 02:25 Irratonalys wrote:Show nested quote +And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place. you clearly dont understand the mechanics behind my post, i was implying that people are desperate for a 1 in 84 chance to get the 200 extra gold on drow. Maybe the players didn't enjoy the heroes they randomed?
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On January 11 2013 01:48 BlitzerSC wrote: They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid. Bottle, tango and 3 branches. TIME TO PUT THAT MIN 0 REGEN RUNE TO USE! Seriously, that is its sole purpose, other than to annoy people.
"Sweet, 2 stunners, both rune spawns covered for 0:00, now just need a haste, invis, DD or illusion rune to get a first blood." Guess what happens?
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Maybe the players didn't enjoy the heroes they randomed?
im just saying it suggests a pattern when it happens again and again that people random , and then if they dont get drow they repick drow.
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Or maybe drow is just their natural backup hero if they dont get what they want..
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On January 11 2013 03:14 Irratonalys wrote:im just saying it suggests a pattern when it happens again and again that people random , and then if they dont get drow they repick drow.
That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.
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That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.
oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2? guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER.
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On January 11 2013 03:26 Irratonalys wrote:Show nested quote + That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.
oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2? guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER. 
No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be. There are two possibilities, they random but will always repick unless they get Drow, or they random and repick unless they get a hero they like, which could be 10 heroes, could be 40 heroes, could be 80 heroes. And Drow is just their back up plan. Doing that if you only feel like playing half the pool of heroes isn't smart, but it isn't completelly braindead as hoping you get Drow on random would be, so it is also much more likely.
Plus you shouldn't ask questions if you don't want answers.
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No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be.
i dont think it is unreasonable to assume people failing hard at probabilities, when you see some other examples of player behaviour in this thread.
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On January 11 2013 03:35 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 03:26 Irratonalys wrote: That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.
oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2? guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER.  No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be. There are two possibilities, they random but will always repick unless they get Drow, or they random and repick unless they get a hero they like, which could be 10 heroes, could be 40 heroes, could be 80 heroes. And Drow is just their back up plan. Doing that if you only feel like playing half the pool of heroes isn't smart, but it isn't completelly braindead as hoping you get Drow on random would be, so it is also much more likely. Plus you shouldn't ask questions if you don't want answers.
Arguing in the QQ thread is kinda pointless. People come here to complain. Denying them their complain by trying to be showy and act smart is not helpful in any way.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
So I ragequit my first game just now. I random sf, go mid. Then after the first wave (level 1) drow comes mid with an invis rune to gank the nightstalker, who we're surely gonna kill with just frost arrows slow. After that she just chills mid, takes my last hit and is generally useless. Fast forward a couple of minutes of laning with drow and me asking her to leave. I get ganked by cm and vs mid, die. Then nighttime hits, I get dived by NS, juke in trees near tower for an eternity, ping like crazy, no tps. "gg mid fed" in all chat.
Yeah, that's enough DotA for the week.
edit: spelling
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I played a pub game a few days ago and went support with some guy playing TA soloing mid. We seemed to be off to a great start against a tough matchup hero-wise, until around midgame I looked at the item build for TA. She went for Shadow Blade. On TA.
And guess who's on the other team?...Slardar
We lost.
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