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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 10 2013 15:53 GMT
#5781
On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote:
What is the point of randoming a hero?

The point is to get a random hero. Some people random in the hope of getting a hero they feel like playing and will repick if they don't get that.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 10 2013 15:56 GMT
#5782
On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote:
What is the point of randoming a hero?

first game today
enemy randoms necrolyte - repick drow ranger

second game
enemy randoms broodmother - repick drow ranger

third game
enemy randoms juggernaut - repick drow ranger

are people that desperate for the 200 extra gold on drow? we won all three games btw, but it still irks me.


The only time I repick is when I get a hero I REALLY do not want to play as. But I'll never repick to Drow, she is the least fun to play.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 16:01:40
January 10 2013 15:57 GMT
#5783
You don't get 200 extra gold if you repick. That would be silly.

You should end up with 100 less gold by repicking, so yeah, you shouldn't random if there is a big chance you will end up repicking. You might as well just use the "random wheel" untill it falls on a hero you like.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#5784
On January 11 2013 00:57 SKC wrote:
You don't get 200 extra gold if you repick. That would be silly Diretide.




But on the question of randoming, I do it pretty much every AP game. There is too much pressure to pick what hero I want to play otherwise. I only repick meepo and if I'm feeling lazy chen/ench as well.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 16:20:44
January 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#5785
On January 11 2013 00:49 Irratonalys wrote:
What is the point of randoming a hero?

first game today
enemy randoms necrolyte - repick drow ranger

second game
enemy randoms broodmother - repick drow ranger

third game
enemy randoms juggernaut - repick drow ranger

are people that desperate for the 200 extra gold on drow? we won all three games btw, but it still irks me.


The point of randoming a hero is to get a random hero. Would think that would be self-evident.

And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place.

So really you just went up against three people who decided they would rather play a handicapped Drow than the heroes they actually randomed. Or they were retarded...both are equally likely.

Edit: I also Random pretty much every single AP game, and almost never repick unless my teammates go full-retard with the other 4 picks.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#5786
On January 10 2013 20:45 hooahah wrote:
https://dotabuff.com/players/112960879

this

this fucking player right here

I hope I never team up with him again jesus christ

how can you even play the same hero over and over again so many times? I understand sticking to some heroes more often than not, but nearly all his games are Drow/Viper/Huskar, which he takes if Drow has been taken by someone else. Especially when it's such a braindead hero.


lmao
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#5787
They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 10 2013 16:53 GMT
#5788
On January 11 2013 01:48 BlitzerSC wrote:
They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid.


Nooooooooooooooooo. That is probably the single worst change they made to HoN for me (apart from all the awful heroes and early access). Random gold is awesome. It isn't like 853 gold is that crazy OP mid. What are they gonna do, go boots or bottle first? .

I mean, if they take away the random gold then I can't justify randoming anymore. And I really do hate picking because I always end up support (I'm better at support than carry anyways, and that is generally what is needed). Randoming is my justification to play carries etc XD.
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 10 2013 17:25 GMT
#5789
And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place.


you clearly dont understand the mechanics behind my post, i was implying that people are desperate for a 1 in 84 chance to get the 200 extra gold on drow.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 10 2013 18:10 GMT
#5790
On January 11 2013 02:25 Irratonalys wrote:
Show nested quote +
And you clearly don't understand the mechanics behind repick after randoming, you get less gold than if you were to just pick that hero in the first place.


you clearly dont understand the mechanics behind my post, i was implying that people are desperate for a 1 in 84 chance to get the 200 extra gold on drow.

Maybe the players didn't enjoy the heroes they randomed?
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 10 2013 18:13 GMT
#5791
On January 11 2013 01:48 BlitzerSC wrote:
They should remove the gold that you get from randoming, it's really silly especially if you are going mid.

Bottle, tango and 3 branches. TIME TO PUT THAT MIN 0 REGEN RUNE TO USE! Seriously, that is its sole purpose, other than to annoy people.

"Sweet, 2 stunners, both rune spawns covered for 0:00, now just need a haste, invis, DD or illusion rune to get a first blood." Guess what happens?
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#5792
Maybe the players didn't enjoy the heroes they randomed?


im just saying it suggests a pattern when it happens again and again that people random , and then if they dont get drow they repick drow.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
January 10 2013 18:17 GMT
#5793
Or maybe drow is just their natural backup hero if they dont get what they want..
I speak fluent sarcasm.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#5794
On January 11 2013 03:14 Irratonalys wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maybe the players didn't enjoy the heroes they randomed?


im just saying it suggests a pattern when it happens again and again that people random , and then if they dont get drow they repick drow.


That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 10 2013 18:26 GMT
#5795

That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.


oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2?
guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:37:21
January 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#5796
On January 11 2013 03:26 Irratonalys wrote:
Show nested quote +

That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.


oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2?
guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER.


No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be. There are two possibilities, they random but will always repick unless they get Drow, or they random and repick unless they get a hero they like, which could be 10 heroes, could be 40 heroes, could be 80 heroes. And Drow is just their back up plan. Doing that if you only feel like playing half the pool of heroes isn't smart, but it isn't completelly braindead as hoping you get Drow on random would be, so it is also much more likely.

Plus you shouldn't ask questions if you don't want answers.

Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#5797

No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be.


i dont think it is unreasonable to assume people failing hard at probabilities, when you see some other examples of player behaviour in this thread.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
January 10 2013 18:43 GMT
#5798
On January 11 2013 03:35 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 03:26 Irratonalys wrote:

That makes 0 sense. You bet 100g on a ~1% chance of getting 200 gold. That's not a smart bet.


oh really , people not playing smart in dota 2?
guess thats why i posted in the QQ thread about it in the first place. THE PUZZLEPIECES COME TOGETHER.


No, you are assuming people are complete idiots just because you want them to be. There are two possibilities, they random but will always repick unless they get Drow, or they random and repick unless they get a hero they like, which could be 10 heroes, could be 40 heroes, could be 80 heroes. And Drow is just their back up plan. Doing that if you only feel like playing half the pool of heroes isn't smart, but it isn't completelly braindead as hoping you get Drow on random would be, so it is also much more likely.

Plus you shouldn't ask questions if you don't want answers.



Arguing in the QQ thread is kinda pointless. People come here to complain. Denying them their complain by trying to be showy and act smart is not helpful in any way.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:46:39
January 10 2013 18:43 GMT
#5799
So I ragequit my first game just now.
I random sf, go mid. Then after the first wave (level 1) drow comes mid with an invis rune to gank the nightstalker, who we're surely gonna kill with just frost arrows slow. After that she just chills mid, takes my last hit and is generally useless. Fast forward a couple of minutes of laning with drow and me asking her to leave. I get ganked by cm and vs mid, die. Then nighttime hits, I get dived by NS, juke in trees near tower for an eternity, ping like crazy, no tps.
"gg mid fed" in all chat.

Yeah, that's enough DotA for the week.

edit: spelling
super gg
yeadog
Profile Joined March 2012
United States54 Posts
January 10 2013 20:42 GMT
#5800
I played a pub game a few days ago and went support with some guy playing TA soloing mid. We seemed to be off to a great start against a tough matchup hero-wise, until around midgame I looked at the item build for TA. She went for Shadow Blade. On TA.

And guess who's on the other team?...Slardar

We lost.
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