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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
GreyMasta
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada197 Posts
April 10 2012 02:46 GMT
#481
whats wrong with the matchmaking these days?
Just got matched with 4 dudes that had 42-23-12-0 wins.
And I have 200.
And I am on a pretty solid losing streak atm.

We were facing a team with average 120 wins (lowest had 43)...

What do Valve expect?
That there's a chance that the 0 win guy turns out to be a chinese pro that just got his key?
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
April 10 2012 04:12 GMT
#482
On April 10 2012 11:46 GreyMasta wrote:
whats wrong with the matchmaking these days?
Just got matched with 4 dudes that had 42-23-12-0 wins.
And I have 200.
And I am on a pretty solid losing streak atm.

We were facing a team with average 120 wins (lowest had 43)...

What do Valve expect?
That there's a chance that the 0 win guy turns out to be a chinese pro that just got his key?


Dota 2 has a matchmaking? XD

My public games are very much hit or miss. My win-loss ratio is about 50% though. Although, it was much worse when I started. It was about 20%, but I'm improving :D

I didn't know there was a working matchmaking for Dota2, I thought it just filled the games with available people.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 10 2012 04:30 GMT
#483
On April 10 2012 11:46 GreyMasta wrote:
whats wrong with the matchmaking these days?
Just got matched with 4 dudes that had 42-23-12-0 wins.
And I have 200.
And I am on a pretty solid losing streak atm.

We were facing a team with average 120 wins (lowest had 43)...

What do Valve expect?
That there's a chance that the 0 win guy turns out to be a chinese pro that just got his key?



I have been on a losing streak as of lately. I am still near 50% but it is slowly dropping. I noticed on average, there were better players. But than there are matches where they are nearly complete newbs and I wonder why they ended up in the match. There is a system in place, it just needs to be worked on with a larger player pool as well.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
April 10 2012 05:29 GMT
#484
I think its just seperated into low-mid-high cuz some games I get matched against Darer.G (and I have to lane against him -.-) the next game I get the solo mid 0-12 30minute lothars sniper on my team
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 05:52:27
April 10 2012 05:41 GMT
#485
had a game where i had pudge shadow'd to pick during AP game. my friend had random'd drow. other 3 guys proceed to pick pudge before me, pick specter then pick zeus. nope, not even gonna try.

I cant even think of a way to fk up the our teams picked harder than what these 3 did. can you guys? * pudge shadow'd, drow random'd.* pick
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 10 2012 05:54 GMT
#486
Just had a game where no one on my team had wins over 100 beside myself. They were all newbs, I have no idea what happened. The other team had multiple +100 wins on their team. It baffles me; I so not consider myself good but playing against new players is not right. I went 22/4/13 while their team was being fed. Pretty much, if I did not go AM and carry the entire team, we would have lost. We had a Husk go 0/7/0 in the beginning.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 07:33:05
April 10 2012 07:31 GMT
#487
^^Maybe it's a case where people just generally think they are really good and pick high for their starting skill. So the system needs time to put them down to their proper place on the ladder.

I've actually played with this person, who got killed even before the match started... tidehunter started attacking a tower, before the battle began lol.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
April 10 2012 08:11 GMT
#488
that sure was brave of him
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
April 10 2012 08:17 GMT
#489
On April 10 2012 10:31 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 20:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:57 Nilrem wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:15 Jakkerr wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:16 Jakkerr wrote:
On April 08 2012 20:54 cilinder007 wrote:
I want a ff function just for when there are 4 russians on my team, I just dont even want to win that game....


LOL just the other day I had 4 russians on my team that just kept spamming the chat with russian bullshit.
We were winning pretty hard but I was so sick of it that I told them I would just AFK if they didn't stop.
Obviously they didn't, so I went AFK and we lost.
Totally worth it.

This sort of thing just strikes me as stupid, childish and bullshit. They're talking among themselves in their own language. There is no rule in the game that says 'ENGLISH ONLY'. How do you think they feel when a Russian goes into a game and the other four guys are speaking 'that stupid English language'?

You were winning, and they weren't playing badly. If their language is bothering you, block their chat, and it's just like any other game with 4 other good players.

You should be banned from dota2 for that sort of behaviour. That's just borderline racism.


Russians aren't a race so it can't be racism.
Ask any European DOTA 2 player who the most annoying people on DOTA 2 currently are, they will all say Russians.
They don't speak English, or when they do it's just to rage. AFK farm whole game long or go 0-10 in 10 minutes.
There's a reason loads of European players are queuing on NA East nowadays :p.


I was talking to a friend of mine the other day about how so many people dislike Russians. I do find them quite annoying when they are on. Of course, I am not suggesting they are all bad. But when you have a Russian spawn as ursa, run to the other teams towers (before round even begins), and gets himself killed (resulting in their team eventually leaving). Well, not a fan.

There are non-Russians that do this everywhere. This point is moot.

People don't dislike Russians because they're particularly bad at the game or anything. The reason why people dislike Russians is because there's a LOT of them and they don't speak our language. It's natural. Is it logical? No. Is it reason to start AFKing games NOT because they're ruining the game but simply because they're using their own language in chat? Fuck no.

And 'lol russians isn't racism because russian isn't a race' lol really? THIS is your response?


I think it is illogical to assume people dislike Russians for that very reason. We all have had different experiences (or lack of) with Russians, and therefore have varying reasons why or why we do not like Russians in DotA 2. Since the premise of your claim is flawed, the rest of your conclusion is out of place.

Should also point out that I did not mention anything about racism so yeah... what is with your response?

The bit about racism is directed at Jakerr, who made the remark a few posts above yours that Russians is not a race and thus it isn't racism when I accused him of it.

The behaviour that people exhibit towards Russians in Dota2 can be found in other games that have been 'taken over' by communities that don't speak English. The one that comes foremost to my mind are the Brazilians in Gunbound. There is an irrational amount of hate towards them that stems from nothing except them just being there.

I challenge you to give me a list of reasons behind why people hate Russians in DotA2, and for every one I can easily go out and find the same thing involving English speakers, just as many times. The fundamental difference here is that you cannot communicate with them. If an English-speaker screw up, you can talk to them and explain, and SOME (not all) will be receptive to your advice. The same cannot be done about the Russians, and that frustrates the hell out of people.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 10 2012 08:59 GMT
#490
This thing about the russian/other-ethnicity bashing should stop at least here in the forums.
I'm sad that the moderation is not strict enough for this particular matter.

As an angry russian said in a quarrel with a westerner, "u just mad cose yur pros are bad" trolololo.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
April 10 2012 09:03 GMT
#491
I'm tempted to PM a mod about it soon. Where's Nyovne when you need him?
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 11:20:43
April 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#492
I get angry when I select NA East/West and I get people who don't even have the same alphabet as me as their primary language on my team. I'm by no means racist against Russians, I've played with quite a few fucking awesome ones and quite a few terrible ones just like every other ethnicity. I just get frustrated, personally, when half my team I can not communicate effectively with. Thank god for drawing and pinging ^^

I do agree though, there is some racism going on in these and other threads on other forums for sure. Rather counterproductive to their points, if anything.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 10 2012 11:36 GMT
#493
And russians arent even the worst, portuguese are worse.
No rage for me thus far, all pubs were quite enjoyable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 11:46:08
April 10 2012 11:45 GMT
#494
It was this comment (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452&currentpage=24#464) that really ticked me off about this entire thing, and his next post was just as bad.

I know how annoying it is not being able to communicate with your teammates, I've been there. But don't you think the Russians feel the same when they join a game with four English-speakers? Just make the best of it. Sit back and play a game, don't be a twat.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 10 2012 12:00 GMT
#495
On April 10 2012 20:20 Candadar wrote:
I get angry when I select NA East/West and I get people who don't even have the same alphabet as me as their primary language on my team. I'm by no means racist against Russians, I've played with quite a few fucking awesome ones and quite a few terrible ones just like every other ethnicity. I just get frustrated, personally, when half my team I can not communicate effectively with. Thank god for drawing and pinging ^^

I do agree though, there is some racism going on in these and other threads on other forums for sure. Rather counterproductive to their points, if anything.


I think half the "russians" are merely trolls using it as an excuse. Google some russian copy paste.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
April 10 2012 12:01 GMT
#496
On April 10 2012 20:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
It was this comment (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452&currentpage=24#464) that really ticked me off about this entire thing, and his next post was just as bad.

I know how annoying it is not being able to communicate with your teammates, I've been there. But don't you think the Russians feel the same when they join a game with four English-speakers? Just make the best of it. Sit back and play a game, don't be a twat.

Im not english speaking, I can also speak a language noone on my team can understand but I dont cuz I try to comunicate with them in a way they understand, most russians dont, I doubt they dont know enough english to comunicate basic things in dota like push ect. they just dont want to and that anoys me
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
April 10 2012 12:11 GMT
#497
On April 10 2012 20:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
It was this comment (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452&currentpage=24#464) that really ticked me off about this entire thing, and his next post was just as bad.

I know how annoying it is not being able to communicate with your teammates, I've been there. But don't you think the Russians feel the same when they join a game with four English-speakers? Just make the best of it. Sit back and play a game, don't be a twat.


The game's in english, on english servers. What language do you think should be used?

If the game was in russian, and was played on russian servers, sure, you could make that argument, but as it is, you really can't.

And on top of that, the people who spew russian all over the chat typically do have a good enough understanding of english to understand that "pugna top, SF mid", means just that, and not pugna mid, SF bot or some shit, but they just refuse to acknowledge that there are actually other players in the game too.
There are lots of russians who are very good players, and who behave well, but because they don't speak russian and only russian throughout the entire game, people may never even find out that they're russian.

All that put together creates a bad stereotype.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
April 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#498
How do you know they don't want to? I've come across plenty of Russians that try to communicate. Why judge an entire population on a few bad apples? Should we do the same for the English? There are plenty of English speakers which feed, afk and flame.
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Tryhat
Profile Joined March 2012
160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 13:09:41
April 10 2012 13:08 GMT
#499
On April 10 2012 21:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
How do you know they don't want to? I've come across plenty of Russians that try to communicate. Why judge an entire population on a few bad apples? Should we do the same for the English? There are plenty of English speakers which feed, afk and flame.


HAHAHAHA FEW BAD APPLES HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Why not give them their own fucking server they can be retarded on? Please, please, please, please, please.

User was warned for this post
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 13:18:36
April 10 2012 13:16 GMT
#500
Next time you go blame it on "russians" do a ping test. I play on USE/USW mosto f the time and there are a lot of bad "russian" trolls who somehow have 50 ping.

I've played on SA/SEA with friends and it is all the same level of trolls/rage. People just remember the ones who don't speak their language.
What does it matter how I loose it?
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