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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
June 30 2015 21:58 GMT
#27401
I think HoTS is more fun than current pub "meta". At least there you can't press one button in general direction of the enemy team and expect a quad kill. Hey gyro undying lesh bs pickers, you are awesome.
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
June 30 2015 22:14 GMT
#27402
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 30 2015 22:34 GMT
#27403
On July 01 2015 07:14 MaCRo.gg wrote:
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?

nah if he's actually 1.5k he has no idea what to do in a game. you can easily get to 4k just by farming efficiently and knowing how to use ur spells.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 30 2015 22:37 GMT
#27404
On July 01 2015 07:14 MaCRo.gg wrote:
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?

well how does he perform in games where he has 3ks on his team, and where the enemy team also likely has mostly 3ks?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 23:00:10
June 30 2015 22:59 GMT
#27405
On July 01 2015 07:14 MaCRo.gg wrote:
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?

Honestly you tell him to fuck off.

Anyone who believe mmr hell is real is an idiot. And if they are in the separate pool valve once talked about it means they're a toxic player to begin with.
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 23:13:20
June 30 2015 23:12 GMT
#27406
On July 01 2015 07:37 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 07:14 MaCRo.gg wrote:
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?

well how does he perform in games where he has 3ks on his team, and where the enemy team also likely has mostly 3ks?

teams are usually balanced in mmr with other team having a slightly lower mmr to balance his 1.5k

He doesn't perform well... but it isn't like he is clueless. He tries to pick good heroes for team synergy.
I noticed his gpm is bit worse than other cores but its not like he misses everything.

EDIT: he is my friend irl so I can't tell him to fuck off.
He doesn't seem to be that toxic, but he kinda tries to call the shots from his mic.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 01 2015 00:12 GMT
#27407
beyond a certain level of lasthitting mechanics, gpm is usually a product of not dying and farming more riskily (killing jungle camps on the way back with low health instead of just walking straight home) / focusing on farm over uncertain fights / recognizing and getting free kills

if he's consistently getting less gpm than 3k cores he probably has a very bad sense of how to collect farm that should be there for him
posting on liquid sites in current year
manicmessiah
Profile Joined June 2015
United States107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 10:52:12
July 01 2015 10:50 GMT
#27408
He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?


Having calibrated at 800 and climbed close to 3k now, I can tell you why he is so bad despite having double your games. I spent around 6 months at 800, and looking back, even though I felt I was mechanically far superior to my teammates and opponents, I was actually unaware of how many mistakes and shitty choices I was making. Basically because the players around me were bad, I too had the same bad habits. It's only from watching pro streams and my own replays that I actually started climbing and now even at my current mmr I am climbing steadily. He isn't bad because his skill ceiling is low; he is simply not trying to play better dota, or thinking about the decisions and choices he is making in game.

Let me give you an example. I used to be a sniper spammer around the post TI4 time trying to climb out of what I felt was the sub 1k trench and I remember how I would never really care to last hit. I would get maybe one last hit every wave and didn't bother actively trying to last hit because I didn't think it made that much of a difference. I would just autoattack the creepwave, get 6 and ks with assassinate until I got a 30 min shadow blade and feel like I was playing well because I was 10-4 or something. It's only when I started watching ee and rtz stream on a regular basis that I started seeing what these guys did and the flaws in my own play and worked to improve them. As a result, I climbed from 706, my lowest ever mmr, to 1900 in around 1.5 months. At this point I felt like I was in another trench as it was impossible to make progress. I did discover storm spirit at this point and after slowly working my way to 2.1k by spamming storm, I started watching aui's 2 cents videos. This helped me improve my farming patterns massively and I started going from 30-40 cs/min on most heroes to a consistent 70-80 cs/min. I climbed from 2.1 to 2.7k in a month and I have been steadily climbing ever since.

Basically, when you feel like you are in the trench, it means you are able to see how bad the other players are, but you overlook the issues in your own game, and when you fix them, you will climb easily
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
July 01 2015 11:44 GMT
#27409
how the fuck is it possible to be calibrated at 800 MMR ?

also my QQ : i spend almost all the game as Oracle without knowing that his ultimate has been nerfed (no more invisibility)
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
July 01 2015 15:58 GMT
#27410
On July 01 2015 07:14 MaCRo.gg wrote:
What do you do when your 1.5k rl friend insists on playing a core on a stack of 3k players?

P.S. He has played double the games I have! How the hell is he this bad?
He insists that he has been stuck in a shadow pool? And that his mmr hell is real. Is it?


It's easy, you let him play core. Then you, or somebody else who is higher mmr, pick a greedy support(I usually prefer Lina) and play less sacrificial for your friend and try to make things happen over the map. Create space by moving the action away from him, and use the fact that you are probably better than many players on the other team to get kills. When put under pressure is usually when worse players underperform the most.

As long as you are a support who can utilize unutilized space and scale well into late, it really doesn't matter if he's snowballing or not. I'm not saying be a dick and steal his farm nor ignore supportive duties, just that you should play a bit more opportunistic and don't be that CM walking around with brown boots for 50 minutes. Besides I often find it more frustrating when the support play is subpar rather than a core.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 01 2015 16:10 GMT
#27411
[image loading]

???????? why is this still in the game
ffxiv enjoyer
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 19:37:41
July 01 2015 18:56 GMT
#27412
Seriously why the fuck are the morons ALWAYS on my team. Now I'm in a draft where we have a TBD player. Naturally he first picks Sniper. Of course, what else. What do they pick? Storm. Gonna be another great game of ranked.

edit: and of course we win the game after i whine like that :D
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 19:06:58
July 01 2015 19:05 GMT
#27413
Holy shit is low 4k mmr this retarded ? We have jungle BS and rubick, dumbass clinkz says he support with clinkz??? and we have no offlane. Saddest part he have 3k games....

Rubick goes offlane and clinkz fucks my lane and feeds 2-10. Is this for real? We all said to him to go fucking offlane. Im so babyrage mode right now.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
ToastedBagel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada90 Posts
July 01 2015 19:23 GMT
#27414
Enigma players stop blink first. Get mek please.
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
July 01 2015 21:41 GMT
#27415
Aaaand we're back to having feeders on the team. 19 deaths carry naix and 14 deaths support pugna. Zero map awareness between the two of them.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 23:50:01
July 01 2015 23:46 GMT
#27416
Why have enemy team when my own supports without bottles take the rune when I'm mid with bottle. Who needs the enemy with friends like these.

Also, fuck supports that both go I can't get wards till I get aghs.

They have 3 glimmer capes and 2 shadow blades, get some fucking detection you morons.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
July 02 2015 14:32 GMT
#27417
people who tryhard in low prio and turn every game into a 50 shit game should be shot
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
July 02 2015 14:54 GMT
#27418
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1599726494

Stupid cunts won through hero picks. Only reason Tiny is anywhere close to balanced is because Viper exists lol. First ime I have actually rage reported someone holy shit taht Tiny was a complete inbred I got two easy kills on him in lane and he was mostly worthless but Herp Derp Craggy Exterior means our AM is useless vs you.
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2627 Posts
July 02 2015 15:44 GMT
#27419
Does the new beta client have the same sound when your game is ready? I've never missed to rdy up before but now I have to wait 10 minutes. Grrr.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 02 2015 15:52 GMT
#27420
On July 03 2015 00:44 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Does the new beta client have the same sound when your game is ready? I've never missed to rdy up before but now I have to wait 10 minutes. Grrr.

yes it's the same epic game ready sound
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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