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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 20 2014 03:02 GMT
#24461
Sigh, 15 minute queue time for guy to grab captain to come up with the bright idea of aggro tri-lane with a drow ranger. He dies on Drow, repeatedly, worst score in game, he's 1-13-3. At end of game shadow shaman starts bitching at me how I can't steal ravage as rubick. I have arcane's, a stick and that's it. Ravage is really fucking hard to steal with force and or blink, and the tide wasn't stupid enough to not anchor smash. So stop cursing me out how I suck and can't steal a ravage.

Even worse, to really add insult to injury, turns out the drow was the lowest mmr in party. FML.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 20 2014 06:20 GMT
#24462
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 20 2014 06:21 GMT
#24463
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR. So unlucky to play against them each time. And these are games I didn't queue one after the other.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.

Arkhe
Profile Joined November 2014
France116 Posts
November 20 2014 07:16 GMT
#24464
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.


i was assuming that in solo queue you only play against and with solo player, am i wrong ?

Omelette aux fromages ? i'm the grammar nazi worst nightmare
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
November 20 2014 07:33 GMT
#24465
On November 20 2014 16:16 Arkhe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.


i was assuming that in solo queue you only play against and with solo player, am i wrong ?


Usually but there are times where you get stacked with/against 2/3stacks. It's almost always awful and they almost always pick like all cores and expect their teammates to pick supports.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 20 2014 07:36 GMT
#24466
On November 20 2014 16:16 Arkhe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.


i was assuming that in solo queue you only play against and with solo player, am i wrong ?


90% of my complains in this thread - of which there are many - are about me solo-queuing with stacks on my team. It is less common in ranked, I find, because ranked is more restrictive about group sizes, but it's common there too.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 07:55:13
November 20 2014 07:51 GMT
#24467
I recently tried to learn Centaur Warruner, because I want to get better at solo offlane play in general.
2 practices last hitting with Centaur.
2 pub games with Centaur.
2 pub games where I mention during picks that I want to solo offlane.
2 pub games where the team says okay and starts coordinating around it. (otherwise I pick someone else)
2 pub games where the 5th guy picks a hard carry who needs a babysitter and comes offlane.
2 pub games as position 5 Centaur.

Not that it was wrong to stick me on position 5, given the picks. And not that it meant auto-lose; the other team managed to have even more dysfunctional lanes one game. But it's not really helping me learn much.
Arkhe
Profile Joined November 2014
France116 Posts
November 20 2014 08:25 GMT
#24468
On November 20 2014 16:36 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 16:16 Arkhe wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.


i was assuming that in solo queue you only play against and with solo player, am i wrong ?


90% of my complains in this thread - of which there are many - are about me solo-queuing with stacks on my team. It is less common in ranked, I find, because ranked is more restrictive about group sizes, but it's common there too.


I'm playing on EUW but i don't think that make any kind of difference, as far as i remenber i never got stack in my solo queuing game.

that's sad when 3 man stack want to play Solo off / mid / carry , where is the point of playing together.
Omelette aux fromages ? i'm the grammar nazi worst nightmare
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 20 2014 08:47 GMT
#24469
On November 20 2014 17:25 Arkhe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 16:36 FHDH wrote:
On November 20 2014 16:16 Arkhe wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:20 trinxified wrote:
I lost to the same 3-player stack 3 times in a row... This is in Solo queue, 4.3k MMR.

Jugg, Omni, Silencer.

Same strat, build and lanes every game. Lost them all.


i was assuming that in solo queue you only play against and with solo player, am i wrong ?


90% of my complains in this thread - of which there are many - are about me solo-queuing with stacks on my team. It is less common in ranked, I find, because ranked is more restrictive about group sizes, but it's common there too.


I'm playing on EUW but i don't think that make any kind of difference, as far as i remenber i never got stack in my solo queuing game.

that's sad when 3 man stack want to play Solo off / mid / carry , where is the point of playing together.

So little of the game is laning phase I don't think it matters. In fact I wish more people realized that when they grouped so they would be less inflexible about laning with their friends.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Arkhe
Profile Joined November 2014
France116 Posts
November 20 2014 09:01 GMT
#24470
there are two extremes. You are not force to lane with your mate, but if u get a nice dual combo and execute it well thanks to vocal communication that's nice.

The difference in USA i think is that everyone speak english, i mean is abble to understand and talk it using a microphone.
Whenever you talk english on EUW server using in-game vocal system you're not even sure that others understand you (that can be due to a poor english talking also )
Omelette aux fromages ? i'm the grammar nazi worst nightmare
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
November 20 2014 10:41 GMT
#24471
On November 20 2014 18:01 Arkhe wrote:
there are two extremes. You are not force to lane with your mate, but if u get a nice dual combo and execute it well thanks to vocal communication that's nice.

The difference in USA i think is that everyone speak english, i mean is abble to understand and talk it using a microphone.
Whenever you talk english on EUW server using in-game vocal system you're not even sure that others understand you (that can be due to a poor english talking also )


I actually find it pretty rare that people dont speak English on EUW, with the exception of ...people who have their own Server but come to EUW anyway.
Support TONY best TONY
Arkhe
Profile Joined November 2014
France116 Posts
November 20 2014 10:55 GMT
#24472
On November 20 2014 19:41 msl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:01 Arkhe wrote:
there are two extremes. You are not force to lane with your mate, but if u get a nice dual combo and execute it well thanks to vocal communication that's nice.

The difference in USA i think is that everyone speak english, i mean is abble to understand and talk it using a microphone.
Whenever you talk english on EUW server using in-game vocal system you're not even sure that others understand you (that can be due to a poor english talking also )


I actually find it pretty rare that people dont speak English on EUW, with the exception of ...people who have their own Server but come to EUW anyway.


well imo talking english involve other thing than just insults and basic dota vocabulary.

During the EUW shutdown few days ago , we tried out russian server as a 5 man stack.Actually no one got laggs we just had to play some hyper aggressiv russian doto nothing unnatural.
Omelette aux fromages ? i'm the grammar nazi worst nightmare
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
November 20 2014 11:00 GMT
#24473
On November 20 2014 19:55 Arkhe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:41 msl wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:01 Arkhe wrote:
there are two extremes. You are not force to lane with your mate, but if u get a nice dual combo and execute it well thanks to vocal communication that's nice.

The difference in USA i think is that everyone speak english, i mean is abble to understand and talk it using a microphone.
Whenever you talk english on EUW server using in-game vocal system you're not even sure that others understand you (that can be due to a poor english talking also )


I actually find it pretty rare that people dont speak English on EUW, with the exception of ...people who have their own Server but come to EUW anyway.


well imo talking english involve other thing than just insults and basic dota vocabulary.

During the EUW shutdown few days ago , we tried out russian server as a 5 man stack.Actually no one got laggs we just had to play some hyper aggressiv russian doto nothing unnatural.

Yeah i actually like to queue for Russian (Swedish) server if im in a 5-stack. Ping is absurdly good (like 10) and games are entertaining most of the time. But honestly i wouldnt even think about going there alone or even with just a 2-3 stack.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 20 2014 12:01 GMT
#24474
the 'commander' players are always the worst, both in ability and attitude. At minute 0, guy starts telling everyone what they should buy and how to play. He went Mek-Ghost on Meepo. He PICKED Meepo. To be solo offlane. And went Mek Ghost.

we lost horrendusly but at least the rest of the team was fun and cheerful, but the guys that tell everyone else how they should play are just always the worst.
Lepharia
Profile Joined November 2013
Germany20 Posts
November 20 2014 12:34 GMT
#24475
On November 20 2014 21:01 hooahah wrote:
the 'commander' players are always the worst, both in ability and attitude. At minute 0, guy starts telling everyone what they should buy and how to play. He went Mek-Ghost on Meepo. He PICKED Meepo. To be solo offlane. And went Mek Ghost.

we lost horrendusly but at least the rest of the team was fun and cheerful, but the guys that tell everyone else how they should play are just always the worst.

I am one of those people and I can confirm that I am a horrible person.
http://www.twitch.tv/lepharia -- Scrub level strategy gaming | Dota 2 | Quake Live | Hearthstone
Arkhe
Profile Joined November 2014
France116 Posts
November 20 2014 12:43 GMT
#24476
On November 20 2014 20:00 Velzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:55 Arkhe wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:41 msl wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:01 Arkhe wrote:
there are two extremes. You are not force to lane with your mate, but if u get a nice dual combo and execute it well thanks to vocal communication that's nice.

The difference in USA i think is that everyone speak english, i mean is abble to understand and talk it using a microphone.
Whenever you talk english on EUW server using in-game vocal system you're not even sure that others understand you (that can be due to a poor english talking also )


I actually find it pretty rare that people dont speak English on EUW, with the exception of ...people who have their own Server but come to EUW anyway.


well imo talking english involve other thing than just insults and basic dota vocabulary.

During the EUW shutdown few days ago , we tried out russian server as a 5 man stack.Actually no one got laggs we just had to play some hyper aggressiv russian doto nothing unnatural.

Yeah i actually like to queue for Russian (Swedish) server if im in a 5-stack. Ping is absurdly good (like 10) and games are entertaining most of the time. But honestly i wouldnt even think about going there alone or even with just a 2-3 stack.


I don't know with the ping is so good, when i play on luxembourg i got something like 60ms stable with 90ms microspikes.
maybe the russian server are so desertic because of all the russian comming to EUW.

ok i got the solution ! everyone on EUW switch to RU and vice versa
Omelette aux fromages ? i'm the grammar nazi worst nightmare
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
November 20 2014 14:31 GMT
#24477
On November 20 2014 21:01 hooahah wrote:
the 'commander' players are always the worst, both in ability and attitude. At minute 0, guy starts telling everyone what they should buy and how to play. He went Mek-Ghost on Meepo. He PICKED Meepo. To be solo offlane. And went Mek Ghost.

we lost horrendusly but at least the rest of the team was fun and cheerful, but the guys that tell everyone else how they should play are just always the worst.

Im fine with this kind of ppl who want to control every move in their life IF they know how to do it without being asshole. Throwing suggestions and ideas how to execute is fine and actually improves team spirit. But when the commander doesnt justify he's needs or wants then u r sure u will eventually find a lot of shit in the fan. Im kinda the "commander" type person too atleast when im playing, but im trying to be better at not being such an asshole. It's just so hard to keep the attitude
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 20 2014 15:43 GMT
#24478
On November 20 2014 00:36 HollowLord wrote:
Look I don't care if you forget to call missing and the hero kills me. We've all been there; maybe you were focused on last hitting, maybe you were scouting a rune, maybe you were looking somewhere else on the map. Shit happens, whatever, move on, maybe I should have been playing safer anyway.

But don't tell me QoP is missing when she's halfway done twisting her knife in my lungs. No, she's not missing, I know exactly where she is. She's killing me right now, and calling out "MEESING MEEDLE" isn't going to change that.



On a related note I always find it irritating when people rage out to dying to someone right after you've killed them.

Like...I'll be offlane...or mid...or whatever. Get a kill on an opponent. When said opponent respawns they TP to a different lane, sweep around the side and get a kill that lane. Suddenly "OMG NO SS IDIOT REPORT PLS".

I mean...how the hell are you supposed to know where they've gone right after their respawn? They could be walking back to lane for all you know. :-\



@Half the Sky: I think its because people have been getting increasingly annoyed about how obnoxious Silencer can be. I was playing him before the revamp in 6.76 and absolutely stomping with him and he's only really gotten stronger since then. Personally I don't play him anymore, feels dirty. >_>



Also I'm surprised people are finding people speak English on EUW. All I tend to find is a wall of Russian, Greek and Spanish. USE isn't much better though. Wall to wall Portuguese.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 20 2014 17:22 GMT
#24479
I usually find 80% english, 20% russian speakers in EUW. Even when I find people that communicate in languages other than english, they USUALLY understand english. Even if they don't like to communicate in it.

Im fine with this kind of ppl who want to control every move in their life IF they know how to do it without being asshole. Throwing suggestions and ideas how to execute is fine and actually improves team spirit. But when the commander doesnt justify he's needs or wants then u r sure u will eventually find a lot of shit in the fan. Im kinda the "commander" type person too atleast when im playing, but im trying to be better at not being such an asshole. It's just so hard to keep the attitude


don't get me wrong, I have a lot of opinions about how people should play too. But at minute 0? we don't even know how the lanes will go, how the flow of the game will be, what their lanes are, etc. What the fuck are you deciding shit at 20+ minutes at the start of the game for? and of course when things failed to live up to his expectations, he started throwing the most shit.

Earthshaker spent most of the game buying wards and sentries against their Lothars LC/ Clinkz players, it's something like 8-30 20 minutes in in their favor and suddenly Meepo starts pinging and flaming Earthshaker for not having a blink yet.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
November 20 2014 17:58 GMT
#24480
On November 21 2014 02:22 hooahah wrote:
I usually find 80% english, 20% russian speakers in EUW. Even when I find people that communicate in languages other than english, they USUALLY understand english. Even if they don't like to communicate in it.

Show nested quote +
Im fine with this kind of ppl who want to control every move in their life IF they know how to do it without being asshole. Throwing suggestions and ideas how to execute is fine and actually improves team spirit. But when the commander doesnt justify he's needs or wants then u r sure u will eventually find a lot of shit in the fan. Im kinda the "commander" type person too atleast when im playing, but im trying to be better at not being such an asshole. It's just so hard to keep the attitude


don't get me wrong, I have a lot of opinions about how people should play too. But at minute 0? we don't even know how the lanes will go, how the flow of the game will be, what their lanes are, etc. What the fuck are you deciding shit at 20+ minutes at the start of the game for? and of course when things failed to live up to his expectations, he started throwing the most shit.

Earthshaker spent most of the game buying wards and sentries against their Lothars LC/ Clinkz players, it's something like 8-30 20 minutes in in their favor and suddenly Meepo starts pinging and flaming Earthshaker for not having a blink yet.

Yeah definitely, i dont know about that exact game and if i had to play in game like that i would be pretty pissed off too. Its just u will never know what kind of ppl u r playing with and u have to adjust ur own mindset around theirs if u want to succeed.

Theres like 0 reason to expect whats gonna happen 20min later especially @0min. That exact person was just stupid cunt who didnt accept the fact that he failed and others didnt. It ofcourse sucks for u to lose because of him, but after all it was him who lost most (he didnt accept he made mistakes and didnt make any progress because of it). Shits happen i bet next game ur going to have a lot more flexible players with u
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
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