EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 1155
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CrtBalorda
Slovenia704 Posts
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8866 Posts
On September 03 2014 20:32 HammerKick wrote: Puck goes mid with a strange start. He goes urn first, skips bottle. No boots before a long time, dies 3 times to mid Pudge. I'm not a Puck player, but isn't that matchup easy for the Puck player? it isnt if he skips boots and bottle | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On September 03 2014 22:26 evilfatsh1t wrote: it isnt if he skips boots and bottle Well that's a good point. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
His former iteration was OP because he just fucking SMASHED the laning stage. As soon as he hit level 3, you were dead. Now, not so much. He's sort of like Clockwork, except Clockwork is about a billion times more consistent and easier to play. Clockwork also doesn't fall off as hard. tl;dr Earth Spirit is actually shit | ||
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ScarPe
Germany392 Posts
he has the utility to support the whole team by himself. | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
This qq is mostly about how fucking broken void is. You can literally lose lane/do nothing in the laning phase and as soon as you hit six you automatically get easy pickoffs/teamfight wins. There's also no punishment because the cooldown on chrono is so low for some mysterious reason. Edit: secondary qq about how stupid and unnecessary the cm int nerf was, completely ruined one of the few supports I like, I'm not a fan of the balance in this game right now. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On September 03 2014 20:35 TRAP[yoo] wrote: so i randomed chen. i knew that i would repick him but having chen usually gets rid of retards that wanna go jungle my team picks up dk,void; good so far; next guy picks invoker for the offlane; oh well not the best but sure last guy picks furion right at the moment when i picked lich...FURION?! well i told him that his pick was not the best option. invoker says: "lol. we didnt know you would repick" can somebody explain to me how that makes a furion pick good in any way? i just had to pray that the enemys are bad or that one of us gets out of control. neither was the case. void+lich were up against viper+aba and furion, invoker and void thought that picking up a midas would be a great idea. we lost in 35 minutes invoker had midas force void had midas mom furion had midas 2oblivionstaffs thanks alot based losingstreak Eh, furion offlane is legit especially in a pushing lineup with Chen. Of course this hinges on the capability of the furion to solo offlane and creep skip/pull enemy waves with treants and shit. The pick itself isn't bad, but the triple midas probably cost you the game. | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
Pregame: Disrupter is supporting Wraith King against a defensive trilane. Disruptor places a ward that watches the jungle near the lane, but not the pull camp. Setup: The Wraith King gets harassed a lot early, burns all his regen, and still gets pushed out of lane repeatedly. The pull camp is stacked and pulled into uncontested a couple of times. Disruptor gets first blood while Wraith King is out of XP range. Death 1: Disruptor backs up to tower, leaving Wraith King alone at half health against 3 for about 5 seconds. Wraith King gets stunned and right clicked to death. Death 2: The trilane walks right past Disruptor, chain stuns the Wraith King and right clicks him to death. Due to zone-outs and pulls, the trilane is all higher level than the Wraith King. Death 3: The level 4 Wraith king, who at this point has 2/3s of his Treads and nothing else due to buying extra salves and TPs, gets run over by a level 8 Ember Spirit with a haste rune. Death 4: Wraith King gets dove under his tier 2, with the tier 1 still standing. Disruptor, who was at base, decided to walk over to help instead of using a TP. Death 5: Teamfight where Wraith King would have been fine if he'd had his ult ready. Unfortunately, he was still level 5. I don't think Disruptor has any grounds to blame Wraith King for the feed, even though the Wraith King should have grabbed a Stout Shield. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On September 04 2014 05:30 Piledriver wrote: Eh, furion offlane is legit especially in a pushing lineup with Chen. Of course this hinges on the capability of the furion to solo offlane and creep skip/pull enemy waves with treants and shit. The pick itself isn't bad, but the triple midas probably cost you the game. You misunderstand what he was saying. He picked furion for the jungle intending to force Chen to solo support, which is pretty comically bad. (unless you're the Chen/Lich player, then it's tragically awful and the type of game that makes you want to quit dota out of frustration) The triple midases were just the icing on the cake of a 4 carry team all trying to play like carries. (I'm assuming here that this is the type of furion that jacks off alone in the jungle for 12 minutes, not the type of furion that actively tps all over the map to win his team the laning phase) | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On September 03 2014 20:32 HammerKick wrote: Puck goes mid with a strange start. He goes urn first, skips bottle. No boots before a long time, dies 3 times to mid Pudge. I'm not a Puck player, but isn't that matchup easy for the Puck player? Every pudge matchup is easy until he lands a hook. But puck is probably one of the safest heroes against him, yeah, of course. | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On September 04 2014 07:50 Buckyman wrote: Pudge's bad matchups mid are the ones where he's still in trouble if he lands the first hook. Pudge's bad matchups mid are almost all of them, he's a terrible laner. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
So she bought euls scepter. And I swear, every time I tried to combo down someone on the enemy team she would windstaff them, and give them time for blink to come off cooldown, or negate the silence I just put on them, or even take them out of mystic flare. We lost so quickly after that. Incredibly frustrating. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/873310217 Edit: and no, she never actually pulled off a euls > LSA | ||
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ScarPe
Germany392 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 04 2014 05:32 Buckyman wrote: I had a game recently where the Disruptor said to report the Wraith King for intentional feeding. I also happened to review the replay of this game and found something rather different. Pregame: Disrupter is supporting Wraith King against a defensive trilane. Disruptor places a ward that watches the jungle near the lane, but not the pull camp. Setup: The Wraith King gets harassed a lot early, burns all his regen, and still gets pushed out of lane repeatedly. The pull camp is stacked and pulled into uncontested a couple of times. Disruptor gets first blood while Wraith King is out of XP range. Death 1: Disruptor backs up to tower, leaving Wraith King alone at half health against 3 for about 5 seconds. Wraith King gets stunned and right clicked to death. Death 2: The trilane walks right past Disruptor, chain stuns the Wraith King and right clicks him to death. Due to zone-outs and pulls, the trilane is all higher level than the Wraith King. Death 3: The level 4 Wraith king, who at this point has 2/3s of his Treads and nothing else due to buying extra salves and TPs, gets run over by a level 8 Ember Spirit with a haste rune. Death 4: Wraith King gets dove under his tier 2, with the tier 1 still standing. Disruptor, who was at base, decided to walk over to help instead of using a TP. Death 5: Teamfight where Wraith King would have been fine if he'd had his ult ready. Unfortunately, he was still level 5. I don't think Disruptor has any grounds to blame Wraith King for the feed, even though the Wraith King should have grabbed a Stout Shield. Actually feel bad for that Leoric reading this. It feels horrible when you're a carry and this happens.  On September 04 2014 07:50 Buckyman wrote: Pudge's bad matchups mid are the ones where he's still in trouble if he lands the first hook. Naix. "Look who's coming for dinner!" "Feast! Pudge, so much life to steal." "Was it something I...ate?" | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://giant.gfycat.com/FirstJauntyIridescentshark.gif) | ||
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ScarPe
Germany392 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On September 05 2014 00:35 ScarPe wrote: what do you do if there is a good pudge? naix is generally very good vs big health pool heroes. If you hate pudge, pick QoP. + Show Spoiler + As weak as the hero is in the current state of the game she trashes pudge 1v1. I kept counter picking pudge with her, but got so fucking frustrated that our carries always lost lategame no matter the kill advantage i generated early on, that i simply stopped playing her. Since then i only play pushers and carries. | ||
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