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Midori8
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia126 Posts
August 12 2012 05:21 GMT
#2141
Divine rapier =/= good idea

Was kinda funny though...
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
August 12 2012 05:44 GMT
#2142
Allright... playing against tinker mid... calling miss as soon as he leaves the lane. Tinker obv. gets double kill down since no one reads the chat and one of them gives me the instant "retard" msg and pings the shit out of the minimap. I just don't understand why people are so unreasonable rude, when it was clearly their mistake....
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#2143
OD loses mid to alchemist.

You can guess how that game went.
=Þ
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 12 2012 15:42 GMT
#2144
kotl single pull and wave over creep. wonder why i have no farm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
August 12 2012 17:25 GMT
#2145
On August 13 2012 00:42 Erasme wrote:
kotl single pull and wave over creep. wonder why i have no farm.

Standard.

all-chat:
"look at our PL lol"
"no farm noob carry"
"pls report"
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:38:55
August 12 2012 19:38 GMT
#2146
I'm considering never playing soloqueue again, I can't stand this. Immediately, one guy in opponent team leaves. I go "nice, we will win easily since I picked veno, so it's 4 carries vs 1 support and 4 carries". I get courier, dominate hard lane, push down all opponent tier 1 towers while saving all of ours... but by that time, people have already started feeding, and suddenly they have no idea what to do. I try to show them that if we simply push mid all of us, we will win easily because they are fewer than us and I can push towers like crazy... but nope. As soon as bounty hunter shows himself, or lycan comes with his wolves, my whole team goes retard and starts running back while being torn to shreds. Things hit rock bottom when the 1-7 OD on our team goes "noobs". We then proceed to dick around in mid trying to make a team fight work, but not enough people on our team group up, people keep feeding and eventually, we get destroyed by a 4 man team.

Fucking ridiculous.
LeglessPuppy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States190 Posts
August 13 2012 00:02 GMT
#2147
On August 12 2012 23:51 Heh_ wrote:
OD loses mid to alchemist.

You can guess how that game went.


Was his cat playing or something? Alchemist needs soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much farm to be able to do anything.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:18:23
August 13 2012 01:15 GMT
#2148
Well I'm currently in a game as Sylla, I have a Dark Seer (my teammate) following me in the jungle with an ion shell. He also bought wards and warded two of my camps. Not entirely sure what to do now that my game is ruined and there is nothing I can do except wait for it to end. I don't want to give this piece of shit the satisfaction of abandoning but I'm not going to go around the map giving him the satisfaction of continuing to ruin my farm either. What an utter waste of my time.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 13 2012 01:26 GMT
#2149
On August 13 2012 10:15 Bash wrote:
Well I'm currently in a game as Sylla, I have a Dark Seer (my teammate) following me in the jungle with an ion shell. He also bought wards and warded two of my camps. Not entirely sure what to do now that my game is ruined and there is nothing I can do except wait for it to end. I don't want to give this piece of shit the satisfaction of abandoning but I'm not going to go around the map giving him the satisfaction of continuing to ruin my farm either. What an utter waste of my time.

Afk, alt tab back every 2-3 minutes.
=Þ
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 13 2012 01:30 GMT
#2150
Best part is he is some Ukrainian guy with 700 wins, with Icefrog on his friends list.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 13 2012 01:37 GMT
#2151
On August 13 2012 10:15 Bash wrote:
Well I'm currently in a game as Sylla, I have a Dark Seer (my teammate) following me in the jungle with an ion shell. He also bought wards and warded two of my camps. Not entirely sure what to do now that my game is ruined and there is nothing I can do except wait for it to end. I don't want to give this piece of shit the satisfaction of abandoning but I'm not going to go around the map giving him the satisfaction of continuing to ruin my farm either. What an utter waste of my time.


Why are you jungling as Sylla?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 13 2012 01:40 GMT
#2152
Because it's almost 5am and I like to afk in the jungle.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:24:44
August 13 2012 03:24 GMT
#2153
Lycan level 3 at 8mins, vlads 15min, midas 18min, and it wasn't because of the other team. Sad thing is we won so he probably thinks he did well. Oh and very high skill.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
August 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#2154
On August 13 2012 02:25 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 00:42 Erasme wrote:
kotl single pull and wave over creep. wonder why i have no farm.

Standard.

all-chat:
"look at our PL lol"
"no farm noob carry"
"pls report"


Yep. Somehow all KotL players think it is necessary to constantly push our lane to the enemy tower.

News flash, it's not. And you suck.
Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
August 13 2012 09:18 GMT
#2155
On August 12 2012 00:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 20:18 Canas wrote:
So I played some games last night and I was doing ok, carried a few games to victory but nothing special, 13/3/13 storm, 10/0/10 storm, 26/3/10 SF, 20/2/10 tinker, etc.

How does the game reward me for playing ok? IT PUTS ME WITH SOME OF THE WORST PLAYER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME, FUCK YEAH.

I got matched with two friends who pick ES/kunkka and call safe lane, and then proceed to feed a weaver/CK lane 7 kills in 5 minutes. Well fucking played guys. Next game, I get two friends who pick NA/lion and go to lane together. They feed a solo drow 5 kills in the space of about 6 minutes. This theme keeps on going for the next 6 games.

What the fuck is this bullshit, I can carry some pretty fucking terrible players, but I cannot carry players who feed weaver a 14 minute radiance.

Welcome to my world. I don't see myself leaving "Normal" ever if that trend continues.

I can rape mid all I want with Viper, doesn't matter when I'm the only one who doesn't instantly pop in fights. >_>


If you're in the normal bracket it's because you belong in the normal bracket. Some games are not winnable because your allies are just that retarded, but in the end it balances out. The matchmaking system does not hate you specifically.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 09:38:40
August 13 2012 09:38 GMT
#2156
On August 13 2012 18:18 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 00:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 11 2012 20:18 Canas wrote:
So I played some games last night and I was doing ok, carried a few games to victory but nothing special, 13/3/13 storm, 10/0/10 storm, 26/3/10 SF, 20/2/10 tinker, etc.

How does the game reward me for playing ok? IT PUTS ME WITH SOME OF THE WORST PLAYER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME, FUCK YEAH.

I got matched with two friends who pick ES/kunkka and call safe lane, and then proceed to feed a weaver/CK lane 7 kills in 5 minutes. Well fucking played guys. Next game, I get two friends who pick NA/lion and go to lane together. They feed a solo drow 5 kills in the space of about 6 minutes. This theme keeps on going for the next 6 games.

What the fuck is this bullshit, I can carry some pretty fucking terrible players, but I cannot carry players who feed weaver a 14 minute radiance.

Welcome to my world. I don't see myself leaving "Normal" ever if that trend continues.

I can rape mid all I want with Viper, doesn't matter when I'm the only one who doesn't instantly pop in fights. >_>


If you're in the normal bracket it's because you belong in the normal bracket. Some games are not winnable because your allies are just that retarded, but in the end it balances out. The matchmaking system does not hate you specifically.

I disagree. If I win every game where my team doesn't feed, or knows how to play their heroes, but on the other hand lose every other game, I feel like the game is decided by the MMR giving me retarded people, or not. I was in high MMR for a very long time, until I got matched with people who thought that buying Arcane Boots on Naga was a bannable offense. I got matched with feeders and griefers for 15 games straight, and dropped to normal, where I can't advance due to reasons outlined above. There's a limit to what you can do, if the other 4 people on your team think that carries shouldn't farm, and that supports need the farm more.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
August 13 2012 10:09 GMT
#2157
On August 13 2012 18:38 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:18 Bergys wrote:
On August 12 2012 00:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 11 2012 20:18 Canas wrote:
So I played some games last night and I was doing ok, carried a few games to victory but nothing special, 13/3/13 storm, 10/0/10 storm, 26/3/10 SF, 20/2/10 tinker, etc.

How does the game reward me for playing ok? IT PUTS ME WITH SOME OF THE WORST PLAYER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME, FUCK YEAH.

I got matched with two friends who pick ES/kunkka and call safe lane, and then proceed to feed a weaver/CK lane 7 kills in 5 minutes. Well fucking played guys. Next game, I get two friends who pick NA/lion and go to lane together. They feed a solo drow 5 kills in the space of about 6 minutes. This theme keeps on going for the next 6 games.

What the fuck is this bullshit, I can carry some pretty fucking terrible players, but I cannot carry players who feed weaver a 14 minute radiance.

Welcome to my world. I don't see myself leaving "Normal" ever if that trend continues.

I can rape mid all I want with Viper, doesn't matter when I'm the only one who doesn't instantly pop in fights. >_>


If you're in the normal bracket it's because you belong in the normal bracket. Some games are not winnable because your allies are just that retarded, but in the end it balances out. The matchmaking system does not hate you specifically.

I disagree. If I win every game where my team doesn't feed, or knows how to play their heroes, but on the other hand lose every other game, I feel like the game is decided by the MMR giving me retarded people, or not. I was in high MMR for a very long time, until I got matched with people who thought that buying Arcane Boots on Naga was a bannable offense. I got matched with feeders and griefers for 15 games straight, and dropped to normal, where I can't advance due to reasons outlined above. There's a limit to what you can do, if the other 4 people on your team think that carries shouldn't farm, and that supports need the farm more.


Of course there are some flaws, if you were in the lower part of high you can drop down to normal due to variance and so on but if you're high up in the high bracket (no pun intended xd) or even very high you're not gonna drop down to normal because of a few bad runs. Seriously when I play with some friends who are new to the game and we get into the normal bracket I just completely dominate mid or whichever lane I'm in. That leaves you with a really good opportunity to influence the game and seeing as your opponents will be more or less bad aswell you have plenty of chances to outplay them and carry your team. Of course sometimes you get insanely retarded teammates, but this never happens 15 games in a row. More likely you overestimate your own ability, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect. If you're seriously going to claim that your teammates were that retarded in 15 games in a row you'd have to link me your profile and match IDs before I'd believe you.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 13 2012 10:26 GMT
#2158
On August 13 2012 19:09 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:38 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:18 Bergys wrote:
On August 12 2012 00:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 11 2012 20:18 Canas wrote:
So I played some games last night and I was doing ok, carried a few games to victory but nothing special, 13/3/13 storm, 10/0/10 storm, 26/3/10 SF, 20/2/10 tinker, etc.

How does the game reward me for playing ok? IT PUTS ME WITH SOME OF THE WORST PLAYER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME, FUCK YEAH.

I got matched with two friends who pick ES/kunkka and call safe lane, and then proceed to feed a weaver/CK lane 7 kills in 5 minutes. Well fucking played guys. Next game, I get two friends who pick NA/lion and go to lane together. They feed a solo drow 5 kills in the space of about 6 minutes. This theme keeps on going for the next 6 games.

What the fuck is this bullshit, I can carry some pretty fucking terrible players, but I cannot carry players who feed weaver a 14 minute radiance.

Welcome to my world. I don't see myself leaving "Normal" ever if that trend continues.

I can rape mid all I want with Viper, doesn't matter when I'm the only one who doesn't instantly pop in fights. >_>


If you're in the normal bracket it's because you belong in the normal bracket. Some games are not winnable because your allies are just that retarded, but in the end it balances out. The matchmaking system does not hate you specifically.

I disagree. If I win every game where my team doesn't feed, or knows how to play their heroes, but on the other hand lose every other game, I feel like the game is decided by the MMR giving me retarded people, or not. I was in high MMR for a very long time, until I got matched with people who thought that buying Arcane Boots on Naga was a bannable offense. I got matched with feeders and griefers for 15 games straight, and dropped to normal, where I can't advance due to reasons outlined above. There's a limit to what you can do, if the other 4 people on your team think that carries shouldn't farm, and that supports need the farm more.


Of course there are some flaws, if you were in the lower part of high you can drop down to normal due to variance and so on but if you're high up in the high bracket (no pun intended xd) or even very high you're not gonna drop down to normal because of a few bad runs. Seriously when I play with some friends who are new to the game and we get into the normal bracket I just completely dominate mid or whichever lane I'm in. That leaves you with a really good opportunity to influence the game and seeing as your opponents will be more or less bad aswell you have plenty of chances to outplay them and carry your team. Of course sometimes you get insanely retarded teammates, but this never happens 15 games in a row. More likely you overestimate your own ability, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect. If you're seriously going to claim that your teammates were that retarded in 15 games in a row you'd have to link me your profile and match IDs before I'd believe you.

Well, if you're in very high and get dropped to normal, something weird is going on and I agree that you should put some of the blame on yourself. But if you start in normal, it's a terrible situation. I played in mid (before they changed to normal, high, very high) and now I play in normal, on the lowest MMR possible. I can not win. I dominate any lane I'm in because people are terrible, but what decides if I win or not is pure luck. Leavers, extremely bad players... it's on a level where individual skill can't save the game (unless you play something extremely pubstompy).

Over time, individual skill should still matter. If I'm better than everyone I play with, my team should win more games on average, so after a ton of games, that difference should be big enough to push the MMR up, but how do you play a ton of games when every game is a nightmare?

Personally, I'm going to train up a friend of mine, then we will play together and should get out of this craphole easily. Another solution is to afk farm as lycan or ursa and then obliterate the whole enemy team solo.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#2159
On August 13 2012 19:09 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:38 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:18 Bergys wrote:
On August 12 2012 00:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
On August 11 2012 20:18 Canas wrote:
So I played some games last night and I was doing ok, carried a few games to victory but nothing special, 13/3/13 storm, 10/0/10 storm, 26/3/10 SF, 20/2/10 tinker, etc.

How does the game reward me for playing ok? IT PUTS ME WITH SOME OF THE WORST PLAYER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME, FUCK YEAH.

I got matched with two friends who pick ES/kunkka and call safe lane, and then proceed to feed a weaver/CK lane 7 kills in 5 minutes. Well fucking played guys. Next game, I get two friends who pick NA/lion and go to lane together. They feed a solo drow 5 kills in the space of about 6 minutes. This theme keeps on going for the next 6 games.

What the fuck is this bullshit, I can carry some pretty fucking terrible players, but I cannot carry players who feed weaver a 14 minute radiance.

Welcome to my world. I don't see myself leaving "Normal" ever if that trend continues.

I can rape mid all I want with Viper, doesn't matter when I'm the only one who doesn't instantly pop in fights. >_>


If you're in the normal bracket it's because you belong in the normal bracket. Some games are not winnable because your allies are just that retarded, but in the end it balances out. The matchmaking system does not hate you specifically.

I disagree. If I win every game where my team doesn't feed, or knows how to play their heroes, but on the other hand lose every other game, I feel like the game is decided by the MMR giving me retarded people, or not. I was in high MMR for a very long time, until I got matched with people who thought that buying Arcane Boots on Naga was a bannable offense. I got matched with feeders and griefers for 15 games straight, and dropped to normal, where I can't advance due to reasons outlined above. There's a limit to what you can do, if the other 4 people on your team think that carries shouldn't farm, and that supports need the farm more.


Of course there are some flaws, if you were in the lower part of high you can drop down to normal due to variance and so on but if you're high up in the high bracket (no pun intended xd) or even very high you're not gonna drop down to normal because of a few bad runs. Seriously when I play with some friends who are new to the game and we get into the normal bracket I just completely dominate mid or whichever lane I'm in. That leaves you with a really good opportunity to influence the game and seeing as your opponents will be more or less bad aswell you have plenty of chances to outplay them and carry your team. Of course sometimes you get insanely retarded teammates, but this never happens 15 games in a row. More likely you overestimate your own ability, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect. If you're seriously going to claim that your teammates were that retarded in 15 games in a row you'd have to link me your profile and match IDs before I'd believe you.

people just pick carries and in the end they think they won the game alone cuz they have bling bling items and a 10-1 score and a support is 1-5 with boots and a wand and they're like "oh yea retarded teammates I need to carry them"
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 13 2012 10:44 GMT
#2160
People just pick carries because they think the MMR always give them retarded teammates that pick carries and don't know how to play and they think they have to carry the whole team by themselves. You can see this is a situation that isn't solved easily.

And there is no "ELO Hell" or anything like that. If you are significantly better than everyone else, it's not that hard to carry a game and it doesn't take that long to move up. If not, you are not that much better than you average teammate/enemy. Keyword: average.
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