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On March 31 2014 21:57 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 12:57 Plansix wrote: After watching Dendi play, I have now confirmed that there is no ELO hell and never will be. There are idiots in all tiers. Skilled idiots. You saw the TI3 Final last game? Kuroky and Funn1k in ELO hell with stupid teammates who didn't tp home to defend rofl. LOL :D
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What is it with NPs buying Dagons in my games? Dagon level 1 if we're doing ok and their team is squishy I can almost understand. You can teleport, zap and tp out again. Great. Going Dagon 5 as your ONLY item other than boots when we're behind? Ugh. "He has 11 kills" his buddy said at the end of the game. Yes, and ONE tower the whole game. You're off zapping supports by yourself and not getting us any team gold and you expect us to say "Oh well at least you got some kills!".
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-25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker.
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On April 01 2014 02:49 HammerKick wrote: -25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker. nothing is a good idea againt invoker mid :D vs invo is actually one of the less bad mid matchups for sniper, imo
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I fucking hate the new pudge set. Terrible pudges in every single game.
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On April 01 2014 03:53 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 02:49 HammerKick wrote: -25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker. nothing is a good idea againt invoker mid :D vs invo is actually one of the less bad mid matchups for sniper, imo
Sniper has no chance, he's way too squishy and falls easily to Invoker's combos, quas/wex or quas/exort, if he get caughts.
Just saying, invoker was first pick, sniper last pick.
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On April 01 2014 05:01 HammerKick wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 03:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 01 2014 02:49 HammerKick wrote: -25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker. nothing is a good idea againt invoker mid :D vs invo is actually one of the less bad mid matchups for sniper, imo Sniper has no chance, he's way too squishy and falls easily to Invoker's combos, quas/wex or quas/exort, if he get caughts. Just saying, invoker was first pick, sniper last pick. yeah i know, but a weary sniper maxes range, and denies a shittone, so invok wont be able to initiate him very easily, tornado is fairly short early on. And u pick sniper to outlasthit opponents, so you should be up in that regard. Obviously invok > sniper, but it s not that bad
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I wish dota could be more fun to play. Hope the patch will bring some balance.
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On April 01 2014 06:32 126Q;A1 wrote: I wish dota could be more fun to play. Hope the patch will bring some balance.
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On April 01 2014 05:52 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 05:01 HammerKick wrote:On April 01 2014 03:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 01 2014 02:49 HammerKick wrote: -25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker. nothing is a good idea againt invoker mid :D vs invo is actually one of the less bad mid matchups for sniper, imo Sniper has no chance, he's way too squishy and falls easily to Invoker's combos, quas/wex or quas/exort, if he get caughts. Just saying, invoker was first pick, sniper last pick. yeah i know, but a weary sniper maxes range, and denies a shittone, so invok wont be able to initiate him very easily, tornado is fairly short early on. And u pick sniper to outlasthit opponents, so you should be up in that regard. Obviously invok > sniper, but it s not that bad
Invoker with lvl 1 exort has higher base damage and more range (600 base vs 550) than sniper. That doesn't translate into Sniper denying a shit-ton. Also, beyond level 3 invoker starts getting kill combos, and Cold Snap's 1k range and/or tornado's 1200 range at 2 wex mean that even at max range, sniper still can't feel totally safe.
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On April 01 2014 07:28 Staboteur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 05:52 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 01 2014 05:01 HammerKick wrote:On April 01 2014 03:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 01 2014 02:49 HammerKick wrote: -25 MMR because of a russian who thought sniper mid was a good idea against invoker. nothing is a good idea againt invoker mid :D vs invo is actually one of the less bad mid matchups for sniper, imo Sniper has no chance, he's way too squishy and falls easily to Invoker's combos, quas/wex or quas/exort, if he get caughts. Just saying, invoker was first pick, sniper last pick. yeah i know, but a weary sniper maxes range, and denies a shittone, so invok wont be able to initiate him very easily, tornado is fairly short early on. And u pick sniper to outlasthit opponents, so you should be up in that regard. Obviously invok > sniper, but it s not that bad Invoker with lvl 1 exort has higher base damage and more range (600 base vs 550) than sniper. That doesn't translate into Sniper denying a shit-ton. sniper lvl 1 stats is inferior to every single mid hero, and in fact to 90+% of the heros . You pick sniper cuz range+headshot gives u superior last hit from 3-8 lvl
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I don't know if that's true, though. You've already conceded level 1 - 3 CS to the invoker for the most part, and are now heading in to the levels where invoker can try kill you, but you won't be out of range of 1 wex tornado until level 5, or cold snap until level 7. You're also likely relying on headshot procs to secure last hits, which at 40% proc chance isn't likely to amount to superior last hits.
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On April 01 2014 07:49 Staboteur wrote: I don't know if that's true, though. You've already conceded level 1 - 3 CS to the invoker for the most part, and are now heading in to the levels where invoker can try kill you, but you won't be out of range of 1 wex tornado until level 5, or cold snap until level 7. You're also likely relying on headshot procs to secure last hits, which at 40% proc chance isn't likely to amount to superior last hits. headshots proc to denies as well. so u can try to deny/ at least ruin Invok's lasthit if no headshot and u didnt concede, at lvl 1-2 Invok's dmg and range is superiror, but only slightly, the idea of mid is, that u re lvl 2 after the first wave and lvlv 3 at at the 2 minute mark, so you dindt concede all that much. And invoker should never be able to cold-snap kill a "good" sniper. (runes notwithstanding)
anyway, this place is for QQ played with a friend, tried some good dual lane combos, 2 games in a row, teammates wanted to ruin the lane (cuz they wanted to lane with a support, and god forbid any1 else picks one), and the other team both times 4 stack mega tryhards duh
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So this guy last picks Ember like 30 seconds after picking has ended, then he comes and stands mid even though I'm already standing there with storm. I go " Hey I first picked storm, and you picked like 2 minutes later can you go somewhere else?". Then he's like " nono, I mid". So I try to reason with him a bit, but he follows me to mid anyways. I be the bigger man and go jungle (since there's literally nowhere for me to go), and he ends up dying solo 4-5 times in the first 10 minutes 
Also he had a hot mic and there was like 1000 people in his house all making noise like morons which made me even more annoyed.
Why the fuck do people do these things? Like you just completely screw me because I'm jungling instead of getting the free lane against Magnus. And the only thing he kept saying was "nono I mid" which made me want to smash my keyboard. I just said "if you want to mid that's fine, but fucking pick your hero as soon as the game starts and call the lane instead of acting entitled like an idiot".
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On April 01 2014 08:46 TheEmulator wrote:So this guy last picks Ember like 30 seconds after picking has ended, then he comes and stands mid even though I'm already standing there with storm. I go " Hey I first picked storm, and you picked like 2 minutes later can you go somewhere else?". Then he's like " nono, I mid". So I try to reason with him a bit, but he follows me to mid anyways. I be the bigger man and go jungle (since there's literally nowhere for me to go), and he ends up dying solo 4-5 times in the first 10 minutes  Also he had a hot mic and there was like 1000 people in his house all making noise like morons which made me even more annoyed. Why the fuck do people do these things? Like you just completely screw me because I'm jungling instead of getting the free lane against Magnus. And the only thing he kept saying was "nono I mid" which made me want to smash my keyboard. I just said "if you want to mid that's fine, but fucking pick your hero as soon as the game starts and call the lane instead of acting entitled like an idiot". mute+report+go dagon
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On April 01 2014 04:44 Animzor wrote: I fucking hate the new pudge set. Terrible pudges in every single game. This. "Oh boy a new Pudge set, better play him in a bunch of games and either have terrible decision making, terrible hooks, and not contribute anything to my team." Just look at this shit. http://dotabuff.com/heroes/played And half of all tournaments made ever want to sell Pudge sets with their ticket. How about a nice Bane set, or some wards? That way people might actually play supports instead of give mid a free win
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On April 01 2014 08:55 DavoS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 04:44 Animzor wrote: I fucking hate the new pudge set. Terrible pudges in every single game. This. "Oh boy a new Pudge set, better play him in a bunch of games and either have terrible decision making, terrible hooks, and not contribute anything to my team." Just look at this shit. http://dotabuff.com/heroes/playedAnd half of all tournaments made ever want to sell Pudge sets with their ticket. How about a nice Bane set, or some wards? That way people might actually play supports instead of give mid a free win
Somehow nearly all of my latest games have included a pudge and mirana on our team. The two only heroes in the game who relies on their skillshot, and they always miss everyfuckingthing. Youd think it wouldn't be that hard to get an arrow or a hook in when i set up with a stun. But its always like 90 degrees off..
Edit: how is Riki and BS played that much? I haven't seen them once in several patches..
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On April 01 2014 08:46 TheEmulator wrote:So this guy last picks Ember like 30 seconds after picking has ended, then he comes and stands mid even though I'm already standing there with storm. I go " Hey I first picked storm, and you picked like 2 minutes later can you go somewhere else?". Then he's like " nono, I mid". So I try to reason with him a bit, but he follows me to mid anyways. I be the bigger man and go jungle (since there's literally nowhere for me to go), and he ends up dying solo 4-5 times in the first 10 minutes  Also he had a hot mic and there was like 1000 people in his house all making noise like morons which made me even more annoyed. Why the fuck do people do these things? Like you just completely screw me because I'm jungling instead of getting the free lane against Magnus. And the only thing he kept saying was "nono I mid" which made me want to smash my keyboard. I just said "if you want to mid that's fine, but fucking pick your hero as soon as the game starts and call the lane instead of acting entitled like an idiot".
For some reason I just picture the dude being an Indian and wagging his finger while saying "nono I mid" in is indian accent. Yeah, I'd be pissed too xD.
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On April 01 2014 09:51 Excludos wrote: Edit: how is Riki and BS played that much? I haven't seen them once in several patches..
I was confused on this as well, but when you look at Valve's statistics, it states that approximately 80% of all players fall under 3000 MMR (if my interpretation of their statistics is right), so it's likely that the joke pick "pubstomp heroes" we often remoark about are a very real occurrence in lower-bracket games. Especially considering that these heroes are often new-player friendly (think Sniper, Drow, Bloodseeker), it's much more likely that these kinds of heroes are seen snowballing out of control, and by extension everyone wants to play them in their next game. The cycle continues.
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two sd game in a row i play clock
two games in a row in the only person on the team without a negitive k/d
two games in a row I get flamed by the 4 stack on my team
we even won the second game. best part was when me + luna were chasing a morph. I hit 3 hooks in a row trying to dodge the luna (she had bkb/yasha half an hour in the game, so she wasn't exactly helping me) someone else tells the luna to move out of the way so i can land a 4th hook. She moves right. I shoot hook. She moves left and blocks hook. I'm "the reason the morphling got away".
also during the chase the morph uses waveform and someone says "wow clockwork you are really letting that morph juke you".
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