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Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 21 2011 02:18 GMT
#21
On November 21 2011 10:21 Phayze wrote:
81 is too high for first gen i7's.


They aren't first gens..... But yes the temp is way too high even though its a prime 95 temp.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 02:18 GMT
#22
That was ugly.


Finally narrowed crashing down to turbo being enabled, disabled it again, booted back normally... odd, intel turbo boost (1 multiplier) causing like a dozen varying bluescreens, was confused because i just ran 15minutes p95 and couldnt even each welcome screen with the exact same settings.

My uncore/qpi is lower now, il run tests to see if it lasts 30 seconds then post back
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 02:18 GMT
#23
On November 21 2011 11:18 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:21 Phayze wrote:
81 is too high for first gen i7's.


They aren't first gens..... But yes the temp is way too high even though its a prime 95 temp.




Yes they are
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 02:26 GMT
#24
Stable, changes seem to have no affect on temps though. It seems i cant set a qpi/vtt voltage without instant bluescreen, i tried quite a few steps between 1.1-1.3 with zero results, its still on auto.


This is ~77c max p95 in ~18c room temp with hyperthreading disabled... Maybe my cooler is worse than i thought? Its the Xigmatek Dark Knight
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:32:19
November 21 2011 02:29 GMT
#25
As I said, focus on clock, leave turbo off. You can keep HT if that's what you want in your final OC (for streaming etc). And try to keep uncore stock. whatever the uncore is at stock clocks just keep down clocking it so it sits around there. You can play with it after you achieve your desired OC. Turbo makes it incredibly hard to get the correct lowest possible voltage when overclocking.

And as for first gen etc, I've always seen lga 1366 classified as first gen, 1155 i7 second gen. It's really irrelevant though. Anyways you even said that the multi's are only unlocked on the extremes, and that is blatantly false information.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:32:27
November 21 2011 02:31 GMT
#26
167x23 (3.84ghz?) runs fine, sits around 77c, but it is again bluescreening with "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval" as it does when i try to run 200x20, i bumped voltage back to 1.3 to see if it would help as i ran these settings fine with 1.35, maybe my CPU just turned out shitty and cant run as low as yours... Ive definatly never heard of anything near 3.8ghz on 1.2v.


Doesnt uncore have to be kept at >2x RAM clock, or am i mixing it up with something?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:35:01
November 21 2011 02:33 GMT
#27
Your VTT is still on auto is it not? It has to be withing .02v of CPU vcore. I'm at 1.184V at 3.8ghz and running p95 right now. I'll post a SS of my temps etc in 20 mins or so. I dont think it's your processor.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 21 2011 02:34 GMT
#28
On November 21 2011 11:18 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:18 Boblhead wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:21 Phayze wrote:
81 is too high for first gen i7's.


They aren't first gens..... But yes the temp is way too high even though its a prime 95 temp.




Yes they are



I consider the 1156 lynnfields to be first gen
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 02:34 GMT
#29
0.02 is a very small margin, il go and set it now.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:50:01
November 21 2011 02:35 GMT
#30
if your CPU vcore is at 1.26 then your VTT has to be at 1.24 or 1.25. Also make sure your ram is not exceeding its 1600mhz, if it is downclock your ram multiplier. Majority of ram cannot be overclocked with any good result.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2011/03/21/xigmatek-dark-knight-review/2

Seems like your cooler does suck quite a bit ;/

Yes uncore is 2x ram clock, if you dont overclock your ram, you leave uncore stock while overclocking(by manually lowering your multiplier, perhaps keep it 1x more than 2xram clock). Dont bother overclocking your ram, find multiplier/bclk combinations that keep you at 1600mhz.

Anyways, heres my 3.8ghz profile after 15minutes of p95
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I dont see how you need anything remotely close to 1.3V to hit 3.8 Ghz with a d0 950. I dont see how that is possible even with the worst possible binned chip. You must have something set incorrectly. I have never seen any 920/950 not hit 4ghz with ease.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 02:49 GMT
#31
Im underclocking RAM with the multiplier, didnt want to OC it for no reason (cant keep very close to 1600) and RAM speed has almost 0 effect on anything from what ive read


With 1.25vcore my system wont boot period the end before 1.265 vtt, i bumped it to 1.272 or something for stability as i barely reached welcome screen first time, i eliminated most other factors and that 1 voltage causes all my crashes below that value if it is off auto
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:58:07
November 21 2011 02:57 GMT
#32
Thanks for the screenshot, i dropped my qpi and uncore a bit and set 1.2v as it occured to me i dont think i have actuly had any vcore related crashes yet, and it booted fine with qpi/vtt voltage on auto (cant get it to boot at all otherwise, ive tried like 15 different steps, crashes every time, and boots fine when i set it auto)

running tests now. The cooler was bundled with the CPU with a 4ghz w/ hyperthreading guarantee, guess im a fool for not looking into it further at the time.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:00:43
November 21 2011 02:58 GMT
#33
Ok, this is my settings.
QPI clock = 36x
Uncore x16 (2667) for my 1333ram
BCLK 166 (166x23)
mem multi: 8.0 (1333mhz ram)
1.22500 bios vcore

I think I was wrong, qpi/vtt has to be 0.1V to 0.2V lower. not .01V to .02V
Looking at my bios, stock is 1.1875V for vcore and 1.175V for vtt/qpi. So perhaps you qpi/vtt is too high. Make sure you are downclocking your qpi/vtt, this is probably why auto qpi/vtt is letting you boot stable, because you have not lowered that multiplier yet.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:09:13
November 21 2011 03:06 GMT
#34
On November 21 2011 11:58 Phayze wrote:
Ok, this is my settings.
QPI clock = 36x
Uncore x16 (2667) for my 1333ram
BCLK 166 (166x23)
mem multi: 8.0 (1333mhz ram)
1.22500 bios vcore

I think I was wrong, qpi/vtt has to be 0.1V to 0.2V lower. not .01V to .02V
Looking at my bios, stock is 1.1875V for vcore and 1.175V for vtt/qpi. So perhaps you qpi/vtt is too high. Make sure you are downclocking your qpi/vtt, this is probably why auto qpi/vtt is letting you boot stable, because you have not lowered that multiplier yet.



My uncore is ~3k for the same RAM speed, QPI is also the same. I just booted with that vcore and it crashed the moment i started prime95, so i bumped it back to 1.26 and its running fine now, but havnt really made progress.


What is your exact qpi/vtt voltage? You didnt mention it.


I want to hit as high clock as possible without hyperthreading i think, skyrim wont max cores but it scales almost 1:1 with cpu clock speed increases, 20% OC 20% fps gain etc, someone did a benchmark, and also obviously because hyperthreading is useless to sc2 and seems to mess up with xsplit.


I ran on 1.35v for over a year which would pass 90c in prime95 with hyperthreading pretty easily, but it never crashed out because being maxed for 5-10 minutes on 8 threads just never happened in any real world situation, i dont think ~77c is too high to stop at heat-wise for that reason.


Il lower the uncore a notch but aside from that should i look into raising bclock?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:11:13
November 21 2011 03:08 GMT
#35
1.185V. I just rebooted and set it on auto and I still had no problems. Perhaps try a memtest?
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 03:10 GMT
#36
Ok, thats low, il try it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:13:38
November 21 2011 03:12 GMT
#37
Yeah, it should be lower than Vcore. I previously said by .02, as it's been a while since I even though about this. But based off the default stock clocks the qpi voltage was .1V lower than the stock vcore, so i'm guessing I was wrong and it's actually supposed to be 0.1V and 0.2V below cpu vcore.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 21 2011 03:21 GMT
#38
Every attempt i make to boot with under ~1.25 vcore is met by a blue screen on desktop before i can even touch p95, but if i run @ 1.26vcore it is stable for ~20mins (couldnt test more yet) so i think i cant go lower than that, still having issues with the vtt voltage but whenever i could run at all on lower voltages it seemed to have no effect on temperatures
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:29:59
November 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#39
On November 21 2011 12:08 Phayze wrote:
1.185V. I just rebooted and set it on auto and I still had no problems. Perhaps try a memtest?


you think that would be relevant?


I have no idea how memtest works, it appears to be pre-boot?


Anyway im stable now @72c after 10 minutes, one of my case fans was off aparantly
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
November 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#40
Good to hear. Let it run overnight. What voltage did you settle at?
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
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